'Pep' Guardiola sack watch

I think he's never really come to terms with the size of City. He's had plenty of little digs at the club over the years. I think for all the money he's gained, he will always wish he'd done it at a club that's more respected.
He had to realise that no matter how successful he is, the club won’t grow, people still won’t care and nobody is going to respect his achievements, because everyone can see that they are rooted in cheating. He sold his soul and he’s now realising the consequences.
He deserves this so much.
 
I believe he does or did. I believe he really wants to be liked and well respected. And now that it’s obvious that he isn’t, he’s going off the rails.

No idea, and it’s not like it’s his first visit to Anfield or as if he’s been hailed there during past visits. Just funny that he brings it up instead of just laughing it off as completely expected.

Pundits generally love to blow smoke up his rear end, but Guardiola has never been much of a nice guy, never will be.

It would be funny if he really ended up taking a proper hit over his stint at Manchester City, because i doubt his ego would be able to take that one on the chin.
 
Didn’t expect that at Anfield.

Funny one. Does he think he’s well liked?

Probably lives in his own bubble where he thinks he gets a free pass everywhere for playing beautiful tiki-taka football.
Hasn't dawned on him yet about the club he manages and their 115 charges or his controversies regarding doping/player recovery as a player and manager.

The man thinks he's holier than thou but everyone can see through the bullshit.
 
"I didn't expect that at Anfield," Guardiola told Sky Sports afterwards when asked about the "sacked in the morning" chants.

"I didn't expect it from the people from Liverpool but it's fine, it's part of the game, and I understand completely.


Yes Pep, no one likes or respects you, you cheat. Now go cry.
It's the same fans that tried to smash up your team bus you numpty!
 
Shades of Jose at Real during his 3rd season. Season gone completely off the rails.

That season broke Jose.

This season might break Pep. He's had some odd interviews lately.
 
Shades of Jose at Real during his 3rd season. Season gone completely off the rails.

That season broke Jose.

This season might break Pep. He's had some odd interviews lately.
Him showing the number of trophies he's won was Jose esque.
 
City’s recruitment is at the heart of his issues.

No full backs other than a 34 year old Walker. Rodri’s cover has been a returning 33 year old Gundogan. Alvarez sold and not replaced. De Bruyne getting on a bit and seldom fit.

You then look at the likes of Doku and Grealish and it’s a big climb down from the days they were able to put out Sterling and Mahrez on either side.

I’m sure that they’re restricted by the rules (who isn’t?), but this team has been allowed to grow old.

I even got this far and neglected to mention Cole Palmer, who is now one of the best players in Europe. Really poor.
 
Rodri is going to be a big miss for any team, but their problems lie far deeper than just missing Rodri in my opinion. They don't seem to have the legs to press intensely anymore which is a recipe for disaster if you want to play a high line. That said, don't think many, if any, teams would have lived with Liverpool today in those first 20 minutes.
This is a good point, for example i was surprised how badly Walker has regressed not only lost pace but seems to have lost his bull like strength too.
 
I dont understand the issue with Pep showing the number 6 to the smelly scousers. Please dont forget who the rivals are
 
He’s going to have to come up with something special to get them to lose to Forest.
 
Probably lives in his own bubble where he thinks he gets a free pass everywhere for playing beautiful tiki-taka football.
Hasn't dawned on him yet about the club he manages and their 115 charges or his controversies regarding doping/player recovery as a player and manager.

The man thinks he's holier than thou but everyone can see through the bullshit.
Not forgetting the widely reported Barcelona cheating/buying of referees during his tenure…
 
Going back to the topic a little. How many league losses in a row would it take City to pull the trigger on him? I would think it would need to be at east five more, probably more. What do others think?
 
The 3 years comparison seems a bit random considering he’s been there for about 5 years now.
It took Klopp nearly 4 years to win his first trophy. It took Arteta less than a year. I'm not Arteta's biggest fan but let's not pretend Klopp is the only manager who has run Pep close.
 
Going back to the topic a little. How many league losses in a row would it take City to pull the trigger on him? I would think it would need to be at east five more, probably more. What do others think?
That’s a great question! I don’t think so, I think closer to 10.
 
Going back to the topic a little. How many league losses in a row would it take City to pull the trigger on him? I would think it would need to be at east five more, probably more. What do others think?
I honestly don't think they would sack him if this form continues all season. When they brought Pep in, there was documentaries about him being shown before he had even done anything for them... He literally is bigger than the club. How often do you hear commentators say something like ' He enjoys playing for Pep' as oppose playing for City. Or 'Pep has signed xyz' rather than 'City has signed'

He is actually bigger then them
 
I honestly don't think they would sack him if this form continues all season. When they brought Pep in, there was documentaries about him being shown before he had even done anything for them... He literally is bigger than the club. How often do you hear commentators say something like ' He enjoys playing for Pep' as oppose playing for City. Or 'Pep has signed xyz' rather than 'City has signed'

He is actually bigger then them

Agreed, there is no way Pep gets sacked. He can finish 8th and still have a job imo.

There is enough credit in the bank for him.
 
He had to realise that no matter how successful he is, the club won’t grow, people still won’t care and nobody is going to respect his achievements, because everyone can see that they are rooted in cheating. He sold his soul and he’s now realising the consequences.
He deserves this so much.

Said this before, I think this is very true.

They have him bought, he knows he can't leave on his own terms like he did at Barca & Bayern and it's eating away at him.
 
He had to realise that no matter how successful he is, the club won’t grow, people still won’t care and nobody is going to respect his achievements, because everyone can see that they are rooted in cheating. He sold his soul and he’s now realising the consequences.
He deserves this so much.
Cheating is nothing new to him. Barca were alleged to have used PEDs during his time there, and of course, let's not forget the buying of refs. He can't handle the adversity. Losing the odd title is expected, but this is something he's never faced before and he can't handle it.
 
Cheating is nothing new to him. Barca were alleged to have used PEDs during his time there, and of course, let's not forget the buying of refs. He can't handle the adversity. Losing the odd title is expected, but this is something he's never faced before and he can't handle it.
Of course it’s not new. But what changed is the public perception. He’s not the universally liked genius anymore. That has completely changed. The sheer volume and obviousness of his and City‘s cheating have created an environment, wherein all Pep receives is either disinterest or active dislike. The man sold his image to City‘s owners and now realises that he not only failed to make them relevant, big and respected, but instead just completely destroyed his legacy.
Some cheating at Barca that’s hardly been a topic outside of nerdy places like this one, doesn’t even come close to the weight of the accusations towards City.
He spent the last eight years of his life creating something that he assumed would get him even more praise than before. He’s now realising that he’s not just disliked by some, but almost universally hated.
The man has a gigantic ego and that’s hurting badly. He can’t cope with this.
 
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Cheating is nothing new to him. Barca were alleged to have used PEDs during his time there, and of course, let's not forget the buying of refs. He can't handle the adversity. Losing the odd title is expected, but this is something he's never faced before and he can't handle it.

He failed a drug test as a player too but the charges were cleared
 
Of course it’s not new. But what changed is the public perception. He’s not the universally liked genius anymore. That has completely changed. The sheer volume and obviousness of his and City‘s cheating have created an environment, wherein all Pep receives is either disinterest or active dislike. The man sold his image to City‘s owners and now realises that he not only failed to make them relevant, big and respected, but instead just completely destroyed his legacy.
Some cheating at Barca that’s hardly been a topic outside of nerdy places like this one, don’t even come close to the weight of the accusations towards City.
He spent the last eight years of his life creating something that he assumed would get him even more praise than before. He’s now realising that he’s not just disliked by some, but almost universally hated.
The man has a gigantic ego and that’s hurting badly. He can’t cope with this.
And we're all here for it, enjoying every second. Never liked him, even since his playing days(was something shady about him even then).
 
It took Klopp nearly 4 years to win his first trophy. It took Arteta less than a year. I'm not Arteta's biggest fan but let's not pretend Klopp is the only manager who has run Pep close.
I didn't pretend anything.

Just asked why you picked 3 years as some random cutoff. I myself prefer 2 years. For instance, ETH won more in 2 years than Arteta won in 2, or 5.

The "running Pep close" trophy is not a thing.
 
I didn't pretend anything.

Just asked why you picked 3 years as some random cutoff. I myself prefer 2 years. For instance, ETH won more in 2 years than Arteta won in 2, or 5.

The "running Pep close" trophy is not a thing.
The 'pretend' comment was in reference to the poster who I was originally replying to.
 
The drive and hunger to win trophy number? (whatever the current haul is at City) will never be as great as it is for a team trying to win their first.

That's probably the only thing I admire City for the past few years...actually keeping it together and dominating for so long.

Rodri moaning about the number of games was the start for me, gave a glimpse into the dressing room...my reaction at the time was you'd never hear John McGinn asking Emery for a night off on a CL midweek game.

It's a problem unique to City, winning has become boring and now they have dropped a level the rest can catch up. It's going to be very hard for Pep to motivate players with 4-6 time league winners medals to getup for a Top 4 fight.
 
The drive and hunger to win trophy number? (whatever the current haul is at City) will never be as great as it is for a team trying to win their first.

That's probably the only thing I admire City for the past few years...actually keeping it together and dominating for so long.

Rodri moaning about the number of games was the start for me, gave a glimpse into the dressing room...my reaction at the time was you'd never hear John McGinn asking Emery for a night off on a CL midweek game.

It's a problem unique to City, winning has become boring and now they have dropped a level the rest can catch up. It's going to be very hard for Pep to motivate players with 4-6 time league winners medals to getup for a Top 4 fight.
I think Pep saw this coming, but botched the rebuild.
 
Some of the most brilliant and successful minds of our time have been neurodiverse or had mental illness, some at the same time.

You are framing your experience onto successful people and connecting your own dots to suggest it can't be that bad they get exercise, are successful etc and I in my condition could not do that therefore it's all a crock of shit.

As someone who also suffers mental health issues, trauma from childhood, feelings of inadequacy, anxiety in crowds, around new people, IBS at the point anything new is suggested etc

And yet I am managing ok, and whilst not managing Man City I have a decent job, got family etc in my eyes I have success.

Mental Health does not always show its face or manifest in the same way for you as it does for anybody else, and it can strike at any time. Coupled with Cocaine use etc it would not be out of the ordinary for Pep to have mental illness or issue.
Yes, but I have known/know about half a dozen people who were/are unable to face the world for the most part due to severe mental illness.
But yes, I was coming from my own experiences. And I do understand that high functioning mental health issues exist.
 
Baffling to see how he contiues to play slow, "weak" players in the central midfield. Gundogan, Lewis and Bernardo looked like they worked in slow motion both in offense and in defense yesterday compared to Liverpool. Lost every duel, were completely outmuscled, outpaced the entire match and stopped every transition they could have had because they couldn't handle the intensity of Liverpool's pressing. They will continue to struggle as long as they don't get more physical presence in the middle.
They've given away 1-3 goals through individual errors in the back every game the last month too. The last goal yesterday was a good example of how not to play defense. Why doesn't Diaz just clear the ball instead of risking everything against 2 pressing players? Mindblowingly bad.

They need drastic changes in how they setup without Rodri to stop the sh*tshow they are displaying now. They need to play more direct, both to serve Haaland better and to avoid being caught off balance 10 times every game when the lose the ball with 7 bodies in front of the ball, and too slow players to cover the space they leave behind.
Pumping late crosses into to a crowded box with 7 defenders to try and find Haalands head is just braindead.
 
It took Klopp nearly 4 years to win his first trophy. It took Arteta less than a year. I'm not Arteta's biggest fan but let's not pretend Klopp is the only manager who has run Pep close.
Last year was the first time it really was down to the wire, but in hindsight one could even argue this was against a City side already losing focus after winning the treble and three EPL titles in a row. So far, Arteta has proven he is a good manager, not much else. Klopp had three record breaking 90 points plus seasons, winning a title with 99 points, double digits ahead of City. He had them playing a UCL final in his second (?) season and played in three finals overall, winning one. Arsenal have not been able to hit 90 points in any of Artetas seasons, not participated in a UCL semi final, let alone final. All Arteta has done so far is prove he is a good manager. He's still only 42, though, so let's see what he will be able to achieve over the next years - certainly has time on his side. With the downfall of City hopefully near and somewhat permanent it would be a major disappointment if he would not lead this Arsenal team to a title as more and more of their players - Rice, Saliba, Odegaard, Saka etc. - hit their prime.
 
They'll stabilise and finish in top 4 without problems but wonder if he decides to leave at the end of the season or buys new players for another title charge in 2025/26. Either way, do believe he won't stay beyond 2026 even though his new contract expires in 2027. Surely he's tired. He's been at City for a similar time Klopp was at Liverpool when he announced early this year he'd leave.
 
They'll stabilise and finish in top 4 without problems but wonder if he decides to leave at the end of the season or buys new players for another title charge in 2025/26. Either way, do believe he won't stay beyond 2026 even though his new contract expires in 2027. Surely he's tired. He's been at City for a similar time Klopp was at Liverpool when he announced early this year he'd leave.
In the Championship or League One, hopefully.
 
It obviously kills him that city don’t get the respect he thinks they deserve.

Always said this about City, they've bought everything, but the one thing that has always been missing is respect from rival fans for all the trophies they've won, and they hate that they'll never get it.
 
Brilliant from Eamonn Sweeney

'Pep’s empire of dirt is crumbling. No one outside the Etihad will mourn. The sickness in Manchester City’s soul has begun to manifest itself on the pitch. The Premier League’s great pretenders are being unmasked.

A meeting with the league leaders should have provided an ideal opportunity for the champions to mount a counter-attack. Instead, their performance was little more than a 90-minute surrender. City have trailed at this stage of the campaign before. They are a second half of the season team par excellence. But never before have they seemed so bankrupt and bereft. Losing 4-0 at home to Spurs, 4-1 away to Sporting Lisbon and squandering a three-goal lead against Feyenoord are unimaginable results for City. The anticipated Anfield backlash never occurred.

City could have lost by five or six. Virgil van Dijk might have had a hat-trick from three close-range headers, one hitting the woodwork, one flying just wide, the other going narrowly over. Mo Salah missed an easy one-on-one opportunity. Cody Gakpo botched a not much more difficult chance.
The visitors were unable to create a single opportunity. Their one chance of the game was a gift from Van Dijk who lost the ball to Kevin De Bruyne on the edge of his own box.

Caoimhín Kelleher smothered the Belgian’s shot without too much bother. It was the only time the Cork man was disturbed. City relied almost entirely on hopeful balls in the direction of Erling Haaland which were easily mopped up by Van Dijk, colossal aside from that one mad moment. The suddenness of the slump is shocking even if City have had a few injuries. Kyle Walker’s Premier League race looks to be run. His fellow 34-year-old Ilkay Gundogan, judged surplus to requirements by Guardiola a couple of seasons back, is struggling.

Ederson, who watched from the bench yesterday as Stefan Ortega started between the posts, is enduring an awful season. Phil Foden is an even paler shadow of himself. The whole of the malaise seems even greater than the sum of its individual dysfunctional parts. Perhaps the Premier League’s pursuit of City is beginning to affect the players. Professional footballers are not usually overburdened by moral qualms but the nature of the investigation into City’s misdemeanours is unprecedented.

The initial prognosis was that the charges would strengthen the team by enabling a siege mentality. But you can only last so long under siege. What must it be like for players to know they’re considered cheats by the rest of the league? What it must be like to play for what seems as much a conspiracy as a club? They must know their achievements of recent years will be accompanied by an asterisk in the history books. The titles they’ve won may even be scrubbed out. This isn’t a problem when everything is going well. But when things go wrong can players find it in themselves to dig deep for such a compromised club? We will find out. Guardiola certainly won’t worry about ethical considerations. Yet he’s in new territory, having endured seven winless games for the first time in a managerial career which has largely consisted of taking the smooth with the smooth.

Those midweek scratches on his face may have been inflicted by a chicken coming unexpectedly home to roost.'