'Pep' Guardiola sack watch
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The circles aren't really necessary.
They won the Treble, one of the great sporting achievements, and, outside of the media desperately ramming the success down our throats, no one really cared.
Every now and again I actually need to remind myself that they actually won it.
It's so easily forgettable.
Right? The Utd treble stank in the throats of everyone for years. Meanwhile most ordinary football fans don't even have a picture in their heads of whoever was the City captain lifting the CL.
Truth is, the media really didn't, not like if Arsenal, Liverpool or us won it. The traction it got was minimal. The ripple of City winning it was laughable. Liverpool winnng the CL in 2019 was treated way bigger for example.
City right now don't have the pull for a huge amount of fuss from the media. Even the fact they're in court for cheating still isn't spoken about that much.
For me it just goes to reiterate how special Fergie was.
Cheating City and Pep built a great team and have run it into the ground. The stars of yesteryear look burned out, while ignored fresh young blood has moved for game time and are flourishing elsewhere. Guys like Palmer, Delap, Harwood-Bellis, Lavia, Olise and Brahim Diaz are players Fergie would’ve kept at the club because they knew there was a pathway. He’d have introduced them to teams even as he competed for and won titles.
That ability to take risks on youth, kept things fresh and allowed him to continually rebuild teams. Pep, for all his money and cheating, will never have that said about him.
Cheating City and Pep built a great team and have run it into the ground. The stars of yesteryear look burned out, while ignored fresh young blood has moved for game time and are flourishing elsewhere. Guys like Palmer, Delap, Harwood-Bellis, Lavia, Olise and Brahim Diaz are players Fergie would’ve kept at the club because they knew there was a pathway. He’d have introduced them to teams even as he competed for and won titles.
That ability to take risks on youth, kept things fresh and allowed him to continually rebuild teams. Pep, for all his money and cheating, will never have that said about him.
zero zero zero?
Maybe I deserve to be sacked. The hierarchy, can you hire a new victim. Please! Please! Let me out! Mamma!!
It’s actually incredible how insecure they’re all being. Having to constantly mention trophies and almost try and convince themselves 
You don't want to be dragged into a debate but are happy to make negative sweeping statements about a serious subject. Claiming "elite sports people" can't have mental health issues is very strange. Are these people bred in a lab somewhere, or are they simply average people who happen to be really good at something? Rashford was just some lad from a council estate in Manchester, who within a few years because nearly a household name with fans attacking him constantly, I don't think there's much of a chance that doesn't take some toll on you mentally. I'm not saying we should ben negative chants or talk online, it's unfortunately something that comes with the job, but there's no point in ignoring it. I don't really understand your argument at all that being good at sports makes you immune to mental health issues.
I wouldn't say that woke us triggering as such, more just a weird statement that doesn't really mean anything. There is no "woke brigade," and if there were it would indicate people being awake to what goes on in society, so the alternative would be to ignore it? And that's supposed to be better?
To be honest man, this is putting a bit of pressure on me mentally actually.
That’s why I didn’t want to get into a debate. I acknowledged that I initially overreacted due to being reminded of experiences in my life and I also agreed that I was hamfisted in my take on sports people.
What I would say is, these people are elite professionals who are in very fulfilling positions. They have regular exercise and busy timetables, and have high standards to uphold and have upheld them for many years to get where they are. My point is that good mental health is usually built upon a healthy work life balance, good communication with friends/family/colleagues and regular exercise. Elite sports people have these foundations. Therefore, I think that people in these jobs are likely to have relatively good mental health in most cases, and certainly one could take the benefit of the doubt when having a laugh at their expense in the context of football rivalry.
I know I benefit from exercise and also being relatively busy. So do people I know.
The statistics show that there are less mental health issues in sports vs the arts for example.
That being said, I agree that people in sports or in any job can suffer from mental health issues.
With Rashford, again, he has come through the United academy, who have very high standards. He has learned all about how to be a top professional all his life, and he will be fully aware that fierce criticism can come with the job. Therefore, he has a very strong foundation to build robust mental health.
I don’t think it’s fair to call someone out for calling Rashford out, because he saunters around the pitch sometimes, in the name of being outraged that people are discounting mental health.
The social media arena is a pity, I don’t like it personally, but if it profoundly upset him he could delete his social media.
Ok, you don’t believe in the term ‘woke’. But would you not agree that there is a cultural movement of people who are outraged at very little these days? In the same way that there is a cultural movement towards misogyny and anti immigration on the other side of the coin? And I am aware of how they are linked.
I don’t agree with either extreme is all I meant. But that doesn’t mean I want to ignore compassion or consideration for others.
It looks like the feed the scousers chant will be the next one to be stamped out maybe?
With regards Pep and his mental health, he doesn’t do himself any favors with all the cocaine.
Deleted tweet that had 1900 comments. Wonder what they were all talking about under that picture 
Wait a minute, what proof have you of Pep being on cocaine... Weird post.
They were mostly inappropriate comments about his manhood.Deleted tweet that had 1900 comments. Wonder what they were all talking about under that picture
Joking
Can’t stand Mourinho. But when he’s going against Pep, he’s incredibly entertaining and knows how to hit where it hurts.
Mourinho is ridicolous. His Porto was condemned for reeferee corruption. And Chelsea is also under investigation for breaking FFP rules.
Mourinho is finished. He trains in Turkey and nobody cares him, so he search visibility.
Mourinho won with Roman assembled team. A Russian oligarch linked to Putin which was no different than the current Sheikh Man city
He’s evidently referring to the 115 charges.
No love lost for one of your all time greatest managers?
For me, I must confess the two of them deserve each other.
From the guy who's team dived it's way to 2 European cups. He got Utd's shopping list handed to him on a platter at Chelsea with unlimited funds.
Right... something must have made you angry because its clearly not true.
I'd suggest a quick google will tell you FFP was not part of football in 2004.
So he broke rules that never existed? yep makes sense.
Can I remind you how much Manutd managers have spent over the last 10 years with no CL or PL trophy.
Can't we all just back Mourinho on this one? Who cares about his past. He gets under Pep's skin and it's hilarious
Why are people defending Guardiola over Mourinho? Mourinho as managed more under dog teams and been fairly successful. Peps managed the best in each country. Enough said
Neither here nor there really. Mourinho had a blank chequebook at hand. Even then SAF still got the better of him.
He can't really talk about being clean.
Exactly, people talking about Jose having money etc.. you need money to win the league but he has shown he can actually coach teams to win big titles.
Pep, however good he is, he cannot do it without the best 15 players in the country / continent. At Barca, he had a ready made team and Messi, at Bayern he did what Bayern managers do an win the title. He didn't have the best players so in Europe was outdone consistently.
At City he needs 2 squads to win the title, a season with injury and he is finished, struggles.
Pep wouldn't win anything when he has a team that is not dominant in the league before he arrives.
Jose has shown with Porto, Chelsea, Madrid, Milan and Chelsea again that he doesn't need the best team.
Both clubs are shit, but the difference is that City have cheated. They broke rules that were set. We know this, and has been proven.
Also. can't stand either of these overrated managers.
Also. can't stand either of these overrated managers.
You do realise that there is a big difference between blank cheque book and cheating to win? There is a reason why City have 115 charges.
Also... you clearly have been misinformed or ignorant about an open cheque book.
At Inter in 08/09 had a net spend of 65m Euros
In 09/10 - Net spend of 12m euros
100%. Jose deserves more respect.
Holy shit. Pep has lost it! Have you lot seen this?
But city weren't dominating the prem before he arrived. He had the league figured out by the end of his first season and then in his second season finished on 100 points
Holy shit. Pep has lost it! Have you lot seen this?
Is this real and if so recent?
Surely not!
Scouse? Is it post Liverpool?
This man needs help
Beforehand I would have chalked up his recent shenanigans to his known proclivity for being a jackass but if real he may be genuinely losing it.
I just love that fans little dig, "Just cuz u lost"
It's so brilliantly infantile and playground. I bet that shit stayed in Pep's head all week.
That's what makes it so funny, as you said so infantile and then he over reacts like he undermined his dignity or whatever.I just love that fans little dig, "Just cuz u lost"
It's so brilliantly infantile and playground. I bet that shit stayed in Pep's head all week.
Sure, if you think City were not.