Yeah we've just never really seen it before considering how perfectly everything has been falling in his favor for years and years.
He's completely cracking up now that it's over.
'Pep' Guardiola sack watch
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He's completely cracking up now that it's over.
Sensational manager but the man clearly needs a break. I'm really surprised that he signed that extension.
Yup. It’s very similar to his last season at Barcelona, after which he left because he had been beaten by Mourinho’s Real Madrid.
Ok all jokes aside, he doesn't sound well to me? Like he's proper losing it.
Sore loser.
he's just experiencing REAL adversity for the first time in his career and he can't handle it.
Yep. He has always had the best squads in the league and usually easily the best backup to his first XI as well. Suddenly his team is aging, isn't quite at the same level and hes got some injuries to deal with and its not looking quite so good now is it.
Pretty much. His back is against the wall and he can't cope. He's finally got a challenge on his hands and he's gone full Jose.
Nice pay day when he gets sacked!
I was thinking the same...I mean it really don't matter to City ..just a pocket change
If wherever things go against you you suddenly need a break then it does say a lot.
He’s surely the only coach in history to get this far into his career before having a bad run of results and total loss of form.
This is what separates the good from the great, is their ability to turn it around. City actually have a worse goal difference in the league than we do after this weekend, which is staggering really. This is more than a blip now.
This is what separates the good from the great, is their ability to turn it around. City actually have a worse goal difference in the league than we do after this weekend, which is staggering really. This is more than a blip now.
I don’t get it. He’s having a bad season. 2 bad seasons in 8? and we’re basically saying an era is over. Too good of a coach and too much money for that to be true. Klopp had worse seasons and bounced back. You can’t win every season.
No one should make light of your experience. Truth is, we have no idea about Pep. Good if he’s just a bit agitated. Hard to judge from watching TV interviews I’d say
I think he's got far too much credit in the bank to get the sack.
7 defeats in a row. He will need to turn around the blip pretty quickly. Even Klopp got burnt out. Starting to get that feeling from Pep
"I didn't expect that at Anfield," Guardiola told Sky Sports afterwards when asked about the "sacked in the morning" chants.
"I didn't expect it from the people from Liverpool but it's fine, it's part of the game, and I understand completely.
Yes Pep, no one likes or respects you, you cheat. Now go cry.
"I didn't expect it from the people from Liverpool but it's fine, it's part of the game, and I understand completely.
Yes Pep, no one likes or respects you, you cheat. Now go cry.
Liverpool fans are usually so classy, I too didn't expect such offensive chanting.
cheats have feelings too, ya know
I really don’t think so. It’s the escarole that he will get in January and in the summer that should keep them near the top. What he does with aging players and incoming transfers will be his biggest challenge since he first started managing though. Everyone has always said they would take Pep over anyone to build a team given the money. I think that next season will define if he can rebuild a team.
I just think being a manager at a club competing for top trophies is incredibly stressful. To do it for a decade takes a lot out of you. It's one of the reasons Sir Alex was so special.
Guardiola will be fine because he is obviously brilliant but I think he could do with a year or two away and I'm surprised he didn't take that decision himself.
People say it's money but he has earned obscene generational wealth and will do so again wherever he goes next and the place after that.
City will start spending in January for sure. I reckon he will spend 200 million on 3 players. Obviously he needs a backup striker to Haaland, he needs a DM as Rodri backup. He probably needs a CM/AM as well.
I think this has been coming for a couple of seasons but last year Foden popped up with a load of goals and Gundogan the season before. It masked a few problems stemming from poor transfers.
Eventually though it always catches up. It did with us in the early 2000's.
They've gone into this season banking on Foden doing it again which was obviously a bad decision.
Eventually though it always catches up. It did with us in the early 2000's.
They've gone into this season banking on Foden doing it again which was obviously a bad decision.
No one was making light of his experience.
This poor run is showing how massively overrated this clown is, he couldnt use his checkbook in the summer to buy more players to paper over the cracjs and now an injury to 1 player has destroyed his season.
I agree that it's probably put on a little bit from him, but the reality is that none of us know and to just throw meaningless terms like "woke nonsense" around is pretty ignorant. To say that someone who works hard and gets paid well can't have serious mental issues is ridiculous with all the celebrity suicides we've seen. Joking about it doesn't mean anything.
Watch them casually sign Zubimendi, Gyokeres and Wirtz in January.
He's always been overrated. He's always had the best of everything which has made him appear better than he is.
One time Fergie fielded a side with 7 defenders in it against Arsenal and we won 2-0. Guardiola would have a nervous breakdown if he were put in that situation.
Look, I don't really want to get dragged into a debate but here we go, what I would say is we live in a world where you can barely make a joke or make a comment without being cancelled. I would call myself a liberal minded person and would lean towards the political left but I can clearly see that there is an issue with the woke brigade. They are just as extreme as the far right in some cases.
Maybe the term 'woke' is triggering because it's associated with the likes of Trump and the far right. In the same way that 'snowflake' is used as a political slur.
I suppose, yes, mental health issues can happen to everyone, but given the standards required of premier League managers, it's unlikely that they would have severe mental health issues.
I suppose I'm thinking of debilitating depression rather than high functioning depression.
This all basically stems from me having a laugh at Pep because he looked a bit agitated/stressed from losing.
I think it's over the top to imply that I am insensitive to mental health issues just because I'm having a bit of football rivalry fun, with the assumption that a premier League manager is a bit stressed and has funny mannerisms but is otherwise fine.
I've wondered if Rashford and Mourinho have had mental health problems, but ultimately I guessed probably not because they're elite sports people, and if rival fans laughed at rashford for not smiling after scoring a goal I could understand it.
But as the original poster who quoted me said 'its not that deep' and that's fair, I just overreacted because given my own experiences, I have massive empathy for mental health issues, I'm just able to park that for the sake of having a bit of fun with a football rivalry.
From The True Red Devils fb page:
Sir Alex never did this for two reasons.
He hasn't got 13 fingers. And he never lost 6 out of 7 games.
brutalI’m not trying to pile on and feel free not to respond if you feel this is dragging you into a debate you don’t want to have, but the thing that really stands out to me is the idea that Pep (or Rashford or Mourinho) can’t have had mental health problems because they’re elite sport people. That doesn’t add up for me at all and I suspect few others reading that may have a similar reaction.
Shows the monumental influence of Roidri, no?
Rodri is going to be a big miss for any team, but their problems lie far deeper than just missing Rodri in my opinion. They don't seem to have the legs to press intensely anymore which is a recipe for disaster if you want to play a high line. That said, don't think many, if any, teams would have lived with Liverpool today in those first 20 minutes.
It really does. When you add it to the run of games they lost without him last season, the contrast between him being in the team and not is quite stark.
I think it's the culmination of a lot of things.
Rodri is a big one but that is exacerbated massively by the fact that they have had some pretty average recruitment for the past few years.
Then there is also a fairly predictable mental fatigue that many predicted would come last season.
They so much noticeably worse without him.
Ok, that’s a fair enough point. I suppose I’m coming from my own experience where I have found it very difficult to achieve things that I want to do in life because of my mental health.
I just wouldn’t be able to function at a high level. Likewise, my friend who passed away from a severe mental health condition could barely manage basic things each day.
This also rings true for other people I know who have mental health conditions.
That being said, yes, it’s true that people in elite positions can have mental health issues but it’s less likely because they have to uphold high standards each day and have done to get where they are.
I can also agree that mental health issues can happen at any time even if someone had previously been doing brilliantly.
I just feel, that in sport especially, which is inherently good for mental health, the occurrence of severe mental health issues is lower than, for example, someone living in poverty.
But ultimately I think my grievance boiled down to being called insensitive for having a bit of a laugh at a rival manager who was acting a bit stressed, given the benefit of the doubt that he is ok.