Shows the monumental influence of Roidri, no?
Well, Robert Enke, former German national team goal keeper, took his life... Sebastian Deisler, former German super talent ended his career due to depression. And Alvaro Morata just talked about his depression and mental health issues publicly...Ok, that’s a fair enough point. I suppose I’m coming from my own experience where I have found it very difficult to achieve things that I want to do in life because of my mental health.
I just wouldn’t be able to function at a high level. Likewise, my friend who passed away from a severe mental health condition could barely manage basic things each day.
This also rings true for other people I know who have mental health conditions.
That being said, yes, it’s true that people in elite positions can have mental health issues but it’s less likely because they have to uphold high standards each day and have done to get where they are.
I can also agree that mental health issues can happen at any time even if someone had previously been doing brilliantly.
I just feel, that in sport especially, which is inherently good for mental health, the occurrence of severe mental health issues is lower than, for example, someone living in poverty.
But ultimately I think my grievance boiled down to being called insensitive for having a bit of a laugh at a rival manager who was acting a bit stressed, given the benefit of the doubt that he is ok.
Probably a bit less hunger in the team too, given they've won 4 titles in a row.Maybe, but if so it's very sad that they allowed their team to be so reliant on one player, if indeed that's what the probelm is here.
Still reckon it's a combination of Rodri, the 115 charges taking their toll, Pep been knackered, his style of play looking a bit stale, and the lack of the usual massive recent investment.
Yes, it happens, and perhaps I was being ignorant.Well, Robert Enke, former German national team goal keeper, took his life... Sebastian Deisler, former German super talent ended his career due to depression. And Alvaro Morata just talked about his depression and mental health issues publicly...
I think what you are not considering is that not all issues are causing you to lose your motivation. Some people develop obsessive behaviour and are actually motivated by their inner demons - just until the point where they finally can't bear it anymore and break down one way or the other.But of course there are cases of mental health issues in sport.
This is 100% correct.I think what you are not considering is that not all issues are causing you to lose your motivation. Some people develop obsessive behaviour and are actually motivated by their inner demons - just until the point where they finally can't bear it anymore and break down one way or the other.
I do consider this. Mania and ocd are other ends of the spectrum of course. I suppose where I’m coming from is my experiences of people with mental health issues who have never been able to get fully going in life. This can be caused by obsessive behaviour too.I think what you are not considering is that not all issues are causing you to lose your motivation. Some people develop obsessive behaviour and are actually motivated by their inner demons - just until the point where they finally can't bear it anymore and break down one way or the other.
A tgree + perhaps lack of motivation. They won the treble in 2023 and won 4 league titles in the row.Maybe, but if so it's very sad that they allowed their team to be so reliant on one player, if indeed that's what the probelm is here.
Still reckon it's a combination of Rodri, the 115 charges taking their toll, Pep been knackered, his style of play looking a bit stale, and the lack of the usual massive recent investment.
Yes, it happens, and perhaps I was being ignorant.
But I think we can have the benefit of the doubt when having a bit of a laugh at rivals.
I have often been told and heard that exercise is good for mental health. Therefore, sports people have a good foundation there. But of course there are cases of mental health issues in sport.
I just think being a manager at a club competing for top trophies is incredibly stressful. To do it for a decade takes a lot out of you. It's one of the reasons Sir Alex was so special.
Guardiola will be fine because he is obviously brilliant but I think he could do with a year or two away and I'm surprised he didn't take that decision himself.
People say it's money but he has earned obscene generational wealth and will do so again wherever he goes next and the place after that.
I don’t disagree with you. My issue with Pep, not denying his genius as a coach, is when the debate comes about him being one of, if not the, greatest managers of all time.
For me a great manager has to do more than just fine tune a team from A to A star. Granted not every manager can or will do a SAF, Brian Clough or even Klopp at Liverpool, or Mourinho at Porto/Inter etc.
But what they have to do is elevate a team several levels above what it was and overcome some hardship.
It’s really now that I’ll be judging Pep as a manager. Can he reverse what City are going through, does he have more than brilliant coaching and a style of play. If he just quits for time out we will never know.
Pretty much my point. This will really be where he is tested as the best. Even though he will have money, he will now have to inspire and rebuild. Money isn’t everything and doesn’t fix everything as we have seen with united over the last 10-12 yrs. Now we will see how great he really is.I don’t disagree with you. My issue with Pep, not denying his genius as a coach, is when the debate comes about him being one of, if not the, greatest managers of all time.
For me a great manager has to do more than just fine tune a team from A to A star. Granted not every manager can or will do a SAF, Brian Clough or even Klopp at Liverpool, or Mourinho at Porto/Inter etc.
But what they have to do is elevate a team several levels above what it was and overcome some hardship.
It’s really now that I’ll be judging Pep as a manager. Can he reverse what City are going through, does he have more than brilliant coaching and a style of play. If he just quits for time out we will never know.
I personally don't think he'll stick around long enough to attempt a rebuild. If he's melting down this badly after 7 games without a win I can see him losing the dressing room sooner rather than later.Pretty much my point. This will really be where he is tested as the best. Even though he will have money, he will now have to inspire and rebuild. Money isn’t everything and doesn’t fix everything as we have seen with united over the last 10-12 yrs. Now we will see how great he really is.
Not really sure why you're comparing a one-time PL winning manager in Klopp to Pep and his (unfortunately) era dominating football. Slot has taken the same squad that Klopp finished 3rd with and has them sat comfortably top of the league.I don’t get it. He’s having a bad season. 2 bad seasons in 8? and we’re basically saying an era is over. Too good of a coach and too much money for that to be true. Klopp had worse seasons and bounced back. You can’t win every season.
Klopp won so little in his lifetime that he shouldn't be compared with all-time greats like Guardiola. Many, many managers have won a solitary PL title.I don’t get it. He’s having a bad season. 2 bad seasons in 8? and we’re basically saying an era is over. Too good of a coach and too much money for that to be true. Klopp had worse seasons and bounced back. You can’t win every season.
Klopp was the only coach that gave City a run for the money. No one else came close. The only one to win a league and the European Cup in the process. In a few of those years Klopps teams faltered only to come back and challenge again and again. Finally resulting in a rebuild that Slot just inherited.Not really sure why you're comparing a one-time PL winning manager in Klopp to Pep and his (unfortunately) era dominating football. Slot has taken the same squad that Klopp finished 3rd with and has them sat comfortably top of the league.
Arteta gave City a run for their money and finished above Klopp twice in a row.Klopp was the only coach that gave City a run for the money. No one else came close. The only one to win a league and the European Cup in the process. In a few of those years Klopps teams faltered only to come back and challenge again and again. Finally resulting in a rebuild that Slot just inherited.
Has won nothing. No league. No European Cup. What are you on about.Arteta gave City a run for their money and finished above Klopp twice in a row.
Anyone else think he might do a complete u-turn on this extension and drop a similar Klopp “I’m running out of energy” video bomb on them after the new year? If things get bad over the festive period, I could see him saying he’ll leave after the club World Cup tournament.
Nothing? He won more in his first 3 years at Arsenal than Klopp managed in his first 3 years at Liverpool. And just like Klopp, it took him a few years to start putting together a team that would finish 2nd and run City close a couple of times. Klopp is not unique in that sense.Has won nothing. No league. No European Cup. What are you on about.
Nothing? He won more in his first 3 years at Arsenal than Klopp managed in his first 3 years at Liverpool. And just like Klopp, it took him a few years to start putting together a team that would finish 2nd and run City close a couple of times. Klopp is not unique in that sense
Well we will see after this season and finish this convo. The great Arteta has come close. Not as close as Klopp but now that Pep has imploded this season you would figure Arsenal would canter to the title. But so far he’s just not getting it done.Nothing? He won more in his first 3 years at Arsenal than Klopp managed in his first 3 years at Liverpool. And just like Klopp, it took him a few years to start putting together a team that would finish 2nd and run City close a couple of times. Klopp is not unique in that sense.
Klopp took a club that was very far from winning the league, yet alone the champions league.Not really sure why you're comparing a one-time PL winning manager in Klopp to Pep and his (unfortunately) era dominating football. Slot has taken the same squad that Klopp finished 3rd with and has them sat comfortably top of the league.
The 3 years comparison seems a bit random considering he’s been there for about 5 years now.Nothing? He won more in his first 3 years at Arsenal than Klopp managed in his first 3 years at Liverpool. And just like Klopp, it took him a few years to start putting together a team that would finish 2nd and run City close a couple of times. Klopp is not unique in that sense.
Can someone please explain why he was holding up 6 fingers?
He wanted to show them how many games he'd lost out of the last seven.Can someone please explain why he was holding up 6 fingers?
I believe he does or did. I believe he really wants to be liked and well respected. And now that it’s obvious that he isn’t, he’s going off the rails.Didn’t expect that at Anfield.
Funny one. Does he think he’s well liked?
Can someone please explain why he was holding up 6 fingers?
Didn’t expect that at Anfield.
Funny one. Does he think he’s well liked?
I believe he does or did. I believe he really wants to be liked and well respected. And now that it’s obvious that he isn’t, he’s going off the rails.
