'Pep' Guardiola sack watch

A lot of people's wishfull thinking on display here. He is just trying to galvanise support for the 2nd part of the season.

He has done the "don't recognise this team" rhetoric every time we have been regressing a bit, it seems tactical from him. I don't think we will catch Arsenal but I wouldn't be surprised if we did either
What support? Your fans are plastic. Only support the team when you’re winning.
 
Only just found they booed their team at half time. He has every right to criticise the entitled cnuts they call fans if so.

Genuinely think he hates the fact he’s at City. He’s probably only still there because he has the challenge of the most competitive league in the world and challenge of winning the Champions League combined with lots of cash and a cheat code to assemble as strong a team as possible.

I doubt there’s any real affection for the club itself.
Wouldn’t surprise me if he left next season after failing to win another CL after signing the best striker in Europe.
 
Ours do the exact same thing at OT
You joking? Our fans was buzzing and cheering the team on when 1-0 down to city and that energy made us win the game. Even when we was 5-0 down to liverpool. Majority of fans still cheered the team on.
 
What support? Your fans are plastic. Only support the team when you’re winning.
Well you could argue our support were a lot better when we were in no mans land down in the divisions losing every week, so I don't know how you wanna spin that?
 
Well you could argue our support were a lot better when we were in no mans land down in the divisions losing every week, so I don't know how you wanna spin that?
So you had fans back then? Don’t get what the booing was about though, you was bound to come back. Think it’s because your lot have been spoilt the last few years you expect to win every game like 5-0 or something.
 
Hilarious some of the excuses they’re coming up with over on Bluemoon to explain their lack of atmosphere. Blaming light shows, acoustics and tourists! :lol:

The brass neck they have as well to claim other clubs fans are shite when their own ground is a fecking library. “Pep is right, your fans are shite!”

In fairness the light shows and music are the most cringe thing I’ve seen in footy, it’d get me right out of the mood
 
So you had fans back then? Don’t get what the booing was about though, you was bound to come back. Think it’s because your lot have been spoilt the last few years you expect to win every game like 5-0 or something.
Correct
 
The funny thing is City fans genuinely thinks Pep loves nothing more than been at their club. He’s happy collecting his paycheque that’s about it :lol:

They will say it’s sour grapes from United fans but damn their club is so shallow. They are neither loved nor hated. You can’t hate them because they are too boring of a club to hate.
 
The funny thing is City fans genuinely thinks Pep loves nothing more than been at their club. He’s happy collecting his paycheque that’s about it :lol:

They will say it’s sour grapes from United fans but damn their club is so shallow. They are neither loved nor hated. You can’t hate them because they are too boring of a club to hate.

They have been way more relevant to the world football than United last 10 years..

No top player considering a move to the PL will choose United over City if City is genuinely interested, that tells you all you need to know about how low United has dropped (or how high City has gone) over the years.. City fans have the bragging rights now..
 
Mate, it's @adexkola. He opens a thread at random, sees what everybody else is saying, and says the opposite. Don't bother.

I have seen that theme, but I don’t think it’s a wum in this case. Maybe a mischievous contrarian overall though :D
 
Tell us you’ve never been to OT without telling us you’ve never been..
On one hand you have posters criticising the OT fans for still being behind the team when we’re shit and should be getting the manager out and on the other hand posters saying OT fans only sing when we’re winning…

I remember singing David Moyes red white army through the entire half time break and we were shit :lol:
 
I think Pep had this scripted before the game to be honest. I think he knew they'd beat Spurs no matter what. He's kind of saying "we've done our part to get out of this sticky patch." Nothing more than laying down a challenge to a fairly bland fanbase and having released some tension with a win it's a pretty solid time to do it.
 
They have been way more relevant to the world football than United last 10 years..

No top player considering a move to the PL will choose United over City if City is genuinely interested, that tells you all you need to know about how low United has dropped (or how high City has gone) over the years.. City fans have the bragging rights now..
We’re still a bigger club than them and always will be. Aslong as both teams are in the CL I think most top players would chose to join us. Players can see were on the up with ETH.
 
Most people have coherent thoughts and can evaluate why they feel a certain way. When Liverpool win something I hate it, but can give them credit. Klopp has done a fantastic job operating within certain restraints.

Anyone who says it effects them in a similar way when City win something would surprise me a lot. It looks and feels hollow. Even if you don’t agree with the criticisms of how they have done things.

You have some very pro-City opinions, but just because you don’t feel that way, you can’t deny people the right to feel apathetic about their successes.

It is a pretty obvious conclusion to me when you consider how they have operated and the artificial advantages they have.

No protesting too much, just general annoyance that it’s allowed to happen. That sentiment can co-exist with one of general apathy at their successes.

Care about something is directly proportionate to how much you speak about that thing. For the most part.

I don't doubt some people feel nothing about City. I'm sure that for a lot of those folks the league may as well consist of 19 teams. That's their right. And I'm sure they don't have multiple posts speaking about how they don't think about City.

Regardless of how you feel on the issue (which is your right), if your actions suggest otherwise, it's my right to say something, no? :)
 
Care about something is directly proportionate to how much you speak about that thing. For the most part.

I don't doubt some people feel nothing about City. I'm sure that for a lot of those folks the league may as well consist of 19 teams. That's their right. And I'm sure they don't have multiple posts speaking about how they don't think about City.

Regardless of how you feel on the issue (which is your right), if your actions suggest otherwise, it's my right to say something, no? :)

Again, they are not bothersome because they win, but because of how they have built themselves into that position. It is a real annoyance and a genuine concern. Reporting their profits as the largest in world football is absurd and something to be laughed at in of itself.

The annoyance at their cheating and the apathy towards their successes are two different things, and I don’t think being irritated at the former means that you can’t be apathetic towards the latter.
 
Again, they are not bothersome because they win, but because of how they have built themselves into that position. It is a real annoyance and a genuine concern. Reporting their profits as the largest in world football is absurd and something to be laughed at in of itself.

The annoyance at their cheating and the apathy towards their successes are two different things, and I don’t think being irritated at the former means that you can’t be apathetic towards the latter.

This isn't a thread about their cheating though. The conversation stemmed from an actual game they played. Which should be meaningless, right? It should be like Tottenham played a void of nothing and lost 4-2.

For what it's worth I believe you can hold this stance. I think for others it's cognitive dissonance
 
We’re still a bigger club than them and always will be. As long as both teams are in the CL I think most top players would chose to join us. Players can see were on the up with ETH.

United is a greater club than City, no doubt.

Fortunately, for United, City could not dominate the CL as they did the PL otherwise there would be more serious conversation on the greatness subject..
 
You know that guy who says "trust me I'm over that girl, I don't care about her at all", yet says this all the time? And you think, "yeah he cares about her a lot"?

"The lady doth protest too much" vibes?

Yeah, that's the last 2 pages of this thread. Or a good amount of United fans on City in general. :)

Actually, I remember when we played them in 06-07 and Ronaldo scored that penalty against them. The idea of no one caring about them held more weight then... Now it's mostly cognitive dissonance.

And I'm sure they don't have multiple posts speaking about how they don't think about City.


Bit rich coming from the guy who has the most posts(apart from resident City fans) in pretty much every City related thread while pretending to be United fan:


https://www.redcafe.net/threads/rodri-man-city-player.446355/

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/raheem-sterling.464234/

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/oleksandr-zinchenko-the-most-underrated-player-in-the-pl.462605/

Funnily enough even defending Mendy:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ben...e-against-five-women-released-on-bail.465052/

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ruben-dias-thread.467519/

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/do-city-leave-you-cold.468396/

Defending City's "revenue":
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/del...manchester-city-1-for-first-time-ever.469512/

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/pep-guardiola-sack-watch.452023/

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/how-good-is-kevin-de-bruyne.473701/

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It's really a long stretch to compare winning the league with Bayern, PSG or even Juve to winning the PL with City. I'd would say it's night and day more difficult to do it in the PL. Not to mention the other cups he won for them.
The guy won the league 4 times in 5 years, I wonder when will another manager do that.
Not winning the CL is not a disaster like many imply. Di Matteo won the Champions League with Chelsea, is he better than Guardiola? Tuchel won it recently and got the sack soon after. Ferguson only did it twice in 26 years and he's still regarded as the best manager in history.

He's the no 1 manager out there, regardless of how much City spent.
History will recall him as a serial winner without mentioning the fact that he spent 100 or 200 mil more than the opposition.

In the past 5 years Klopp has gotten to within a point of City twice, won the league and got to 3 Champions League finals, winning one while spending a fraction of what Pep has and making his own of TAA, Robertson, Salah, Henderson, Wijnaldum etc.

That Liverpool team puts everything Guardiola’s done domestically into context - they’re nowhere near the top 5 Premier League teams of all time, but their accrued points total in that timescale suggests they’re the second best ever. It’s been a weak league - Solskjaer finished second with McFred in midfield,Lindelof and Maguire at the back and a crippled Rashford, while Jose did so with Young and Valencia at fullback.

City have underachieved under him if anything - the depth of quality he’s had in that time is outrageous.
 
They have been way more relevant to the world football than United last 10 years..

No top player considering a move to the PL will choose United over City if City is genuinely interested, that tells you all you need to know about how low United has dropped (or how high City has gone) over the years.. City fans have the bragging rights now..
That’s why United is always the main story win, lose or draw. What bragging rights exactly? I’ve seen my club win 13 PL titles and Champions Leagues without cheating.

I know City cheated to win a few trophies these past 10 years but do you honestly believe they are even on the same planet of the great clubs in the world?

It’s an insult to the reputation of United, Barcelona, Madrid and Liverpool etc to put a fake club like City among them.

In the grand scheme of football they are a footnote in history of when the game went wrong for a period of time. New York Cosmos of England. They had no fans either but some top talent until the money dried up…
 
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Did he periodically slam Barca and Bayern’s non-existent support as well?
This kind of discussion wasn't really his job, although it has occasionally been a topic for them.

For reference a calm discussion about the atmosphere at Bayern's Allianz arena (quite iconic, but before Pep's time), their CEO Uli Hoeneß has a clear opinion about that (youtube is able to generate subtitles, but I think even without knowing German you would get the mood):
 
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They have been way more relevant to the world football than United last 10 years..

No top player considering a move to the PL will choose United over City if City is genuinely interested, that tells you all you need to know about how low United has dropped (or how high City has gone) over the years.. City fans have the bragging rights now..

Nice try at a windup
 
That’s why United is always the main story win, lose or draw. What bragging rights exactly? I’ve seen my club win 13 PL titles and Champions Leagues without cheating.

I know City cheated to win a few trophies these past 10 years but do you honestly believe they are even on the same planet of the great clubs in the world?

It’s an insult to the reputation of United, Barcelona, Madrid and Liverpool etc to put a fake club like City among them.

In the grand scheme of football they are a footnote in history of when the game went wrong for a period of time. New York Cosmos of England. They had no fans either but some top talent until the money dried up…

United has been irrelevant in the last 10 years both in Europe and the PL. I have no idea what you mean by cheating, but let me tell you one thing, when outsiders think about PL, we mostly think about City, Liverpool or Chelsea nowadays as they are considered credible forces to have a chance to win the CL.. Also, do not mix Liverpool with United, Liverpool played 3 CL finals in the last 5 years though winning PL only once in that period helping them maintain their reputation unlike United..

If you think that the team that is breaking multiple PL records winning PL 4 out of 5 times last 5 years at PL's peak, playing great entertaining football will be a footnote in the history, I wanna know about your definition of footnote.
 
United has been irrelevant in the last 10 years both in Europe and the PL. I have no idea what you mean by cheating, but let me tell you one thing, when outsiders think about PL, we mostly think about City, Liverpool or Chelsea nowadays as they are considered credible forces to have a chance to win the CL.. Also, do not mix Liverpool with United, Liverpool played 3 CL finals in the last 5 years though winning PL only once in that period helping them maintain their reputation unlike United..

If you think that the team that is breaking multiple PL records winning PL 4 out of 5 times last 5 years at PL's peak, playing great entertaining football will be a footnote in the history, I wanna know about your definition of footnote.
A juventus supporter disregarding how trophies were won and how legitimate they are. Shocking!
 
United has been irrelevant in the last 10 years both in Europe and the PL. I have no idea what you mean by cheating, but let me tell you one thing, when outsiders think about PL, we mostly think about City, Liverpool or Chelsea nowadays as they are considered credible forces to have a chance to win the CL.. Also, do not mix Liverpool with United, Liverpool played 3 CL finals in the last 5 years though winning PL only once in that period helping them maintain their reputation unlike United..

If you think that the team that is breaking multiple PL records winning PL 4 out of 5 times last 5 years at PL's peak, playing great entertaining football will be a footnote in the history, I wanna know about your definition of footnote.
Man united are so irrelevant that you signed up to a forum called red cafe :lol: why dont you sign up to a Juve forum dedicated to match fixing instead?
 
United has been irrelevant in the last 10 years both in Europe and the PL. I have no idea what you mean by cheating, but let me tell you one thing, when outsiders think about PL, we mostly think about City, Liverpool or Chelsea nowadays as they are considered credible forces to have a chance to win the CL.. Also, do not mix Liverpool with United, Liverpool played 3 CL finals in the last 5 years though winning PL only once in that period helping them maintain their reputation unlike United..

If you think that the team that is breaking multiple PL records winning PL 4 out of 5 times last 5 years at PL's peak, playing great entertaining football will be a footnote in the history, I wanna know about your definition of footnote.

Yet no matter how long we go without another title we’ll still be more relevant than that dirty, match fixing entity you call your club.
 
United has been irrelevant in the last 10 years both in Europe and the PL. I have no idea what you mean by cheating, but let me tell you one thing, when outsiders think about PL, we mostly think about City, Liverpool or Chelsea nowadays as they are considered credible forces to have a chance to win the CL.. Also, do not mix Liverpool with United, Liverpool played 3 CL finals in the last 5 years though winning PL only once in that period helping them maintain their reputation unlike United..

If you think that the team that is breaking multiple PL records winning PL 4 out of 5 times last 5 years at PL's peak, playing great entertaining football will be a footnote in the history, I wanna know about your definition of footnote.
:lol:
 
Yet no matter how long we go without another title we’ll still be more relevant than that dirty, match fixing entity you call your club.

Seems to have hit a lot of nerves :lol:

Like it or not, nobody at the elite level cares about United anymore. Funny that this is what United fans in this forum complain about (how much they have dropped after SAF and would be in full agreement with me), but the moment City, Pool enters the conversation, all of a sudden United fans act opposite as if today's United is the same as SAF's United. I suggest you learn the meaning of words like bias, objectivity etc. or you can keep on thinking the rest of Europe (or even most UK fans) considers you a top force or even a top PL force nowadays..