'Pep' Guardiola sack watch

During this period they allegedly cheated, those teams (United and Chelsea) spent basically just as much if not more. So once again, trying so hard to reduce his achievements to the money spent is just disingenuous and doesn't make any sense IMO.

What he did his first season in Barcelona already put him on the map, and he was only going to go upwards from there on because any rational person who watched them play could see he was special as a coach.
I don't know if you're being obtuse or are genuinely posting this stuff in an honest to goodness way...

First and foremost it is highly debateable whether the star players who came through City's doors during that time were being paid only the documented book value. This, in itself is huge. If one states they have purchased a player for, say, £70m and are paying said player, say, £350,000 a week, when in reality, the cost was double and the weekly wage triple, that is an enormous disparity and advantage over anyone else. There is serious doubt over the cost of Haaland as but one example of many. If the documented value is incongruent with his actual cost, that is a player, instrumental to their treble who no other club could have obtained at face value. Multiply these allegations by a magnitude of order, and you already have a chasm between City and any so-called rival.

Secondly, if you are being held accountable, you spend money in a way that is essentially dictated to you (as agreed upon by all clubs in the league), with limit and restrictions in situ, which means you hit your financial limit for a period and can no longer make additional purchases that could be the icing on the cake for a particular window/season. If you are fiddling the books, you can stretch these parameters by as much as can be gotten away with before it is clearly an absurdity. City cycled through and fine tuned their squad under great suspicion. It isn't just a case of spending; it's being able to stretch and make something more malleable than anyone else can - when your £1 is everyone else's £5, you're going to have a massive advantage over the competition.

Thirdly, if you have bolstered a squad via illegal means, it is highly likely said squad will have obvious advantages over others, especially in terms of strength/depth, rotation and recovery. This is where insane points totals can be normalised with a squad that is "magically" fresher than everyone else's and a deeper pool of quality (see 1st and 2nd paragraphs) individuals to pick from and utilise.

Financial doping gives a team avenues to win that are not available to others. What you will normally find is that even if a rival team can keep up for a season or two, the consequence will be that that group of players will end up absolutely spent, exhausted, which is why City had no direct competitor who could run alongside them for 4 years straight, instead achieving 2 top level seasons with recovery ones dotted along the tapestry. If all teams were playing on an even footing, their bolstered squads would be able to rest and recover as readily as City's and keep up with them with simple strength in depth.

Magical things happening via magical means isn't magic at all, is it? :confused:
 
Last edited:
During this period they allegedly cheated, those teams (United and Chelsea) spent basically just as much if not more. So once again, trying so hard to reduce his achievements to the money spent is just disingenuous and doesn't make any sense IMO.

You cant compare Utd's spending across 3/4 different managers or Chelsea's spending accross 5/6 managers with Pep spending 1.5bn on his own as allowing 1 manager to spend 1.5bn buying the players needed to make his system work is always going to be a lot more effective than a club spending the same amount accross multiple different managers who each have their own systems and ideas.
 
He should be shadowbanned on tinder
He will make a new account as "josep" and use AI generated photos. But people quickly notice when he starts rambling about Julia Roberts being a rag and wishing them Happy New Year every morning.
 
Always sad to hear this type of news for anyone. Going through a break up would possibly explain his bizarre behaviour over the last few months and i have instantly gone from disliking him enormously, to sympathising with him. Hope they get through this difficult time! Not easy!
 
This is nothing but wishful thinking. Money doesn't play on the field and the tactics on the pitch that influenced how the game is been played in general came from him, no amount of revisionism can change that. So like I said, his name will always be mentioned amongst the greatest weather some people like it or not.
Only by City fans and those who choose to ignore all the evidence against him.
 
How does it mean nothing when people will still be talking about "how" his teams played on the pitch tactically, or how they were the first to get 100 points or how they were the first to win 4 PL titles in a row.

I mean we can talk about money all we want, but a bag of money can't play on the pitch. The players trained with his tactics to make all that happen on the pitch, and that's why he'll always be named amongst the greatest no matter how much some try to downplay his achievements.

Those are things that can't be erased from memory.
You think people will totally ignore his teams have cheated (Barca, City)?
 
I don't know if you're being obtuse or are genuinely posting this stuff in an honest to goodness way...

First and foremost it is highly debateable whether the star players who came through City's doors during that time were being paid only the documented book value. This, in itself is huge. If one states they have purchased a player for, say, £70m and are paying said player, say, £350,000 a week, when in reality, the cost was double and the weekly wage triple, that is an enormous disparity and advantage over anyone else. There is serious doubt over the cost of Haaland as but one example of many. If the documented value is incongruent with his actual cost, that is a player, instrumental to their treble who no other club could have obtained at face value. Multiply these allegations by a magnitude of order, and you already have a chasm between City and any so-called rival.

Secondly, if you are being held accountable, you spend money in a way that is essentially dictated to you (as agreed upon by all clubs in the league), with limit and restrictions in situ, which means you hit your financial limit for a period and can no longer make additional purchases that could be the icing on the cake for a particular window/season. If you are fiddling the books, you can stretch these parameters by as much as can be gotten away with before it is clearly an absurdity. City cycled through and fine tuned their squad under great suspicion. It isn't just a case of spending; it's being able to stretch and make something more malleable than anyone else can - when your £1 is everyone else's £5, you're going to have a massive advantage over the competition.

Thirdly, if you have bolstered a squad via illegal means, it is highly likely said squad will have obvious advantages over others, especially in terms of strength/depth, rotation and recovery. This is where insane points totals can be normalised with a squad that is "magically" fresher than everyone else's and a deeper pool of quality (see 1st and 2nd paragraphs) individuals to pick from and utilise.

Financial doping gives a team avenues to win that are not available to others. What you will normally find is that even if a rival team can keep up for a season or two, the consequence will be that that group of players will end up absolutely spent, exhausted, which is why City had no direct competitor who could run alongside them for 4 years straight, instead achieving 2 top level seasons with recovery ones dotted along the tapestry. If all teams were playing on an even footing, their bolstered squads would be able to rest and recover as readily as City's and keep up with them with simple strength in depth.

Magical things happening via magical means isn't magic at all, is it? :confused:
You're a very patient man, and I salute you.
Marriage or Pep?
Can't wait for poor Cristina to be slandered by Ballbag.
 
Ironic, since he had the doctor at Munich fired.
 
He is untouchable. He won't be fired even if he gets them relegated. He's like their SAF who won them everything and who can they even get at this stage which can make them better. Their whole club is about him and he's literally bigger than their club.
 
Newcastle (H) Madrid (A) and Liverpool (H) their next 3 games.

Decent chance they get nothing form any of them.
 
Newcastle (H) Madrid (A) and Liverpool (H) their next 3 games.

Decent chance they get nothing form any of them.
Yeah, can see all 3 teams taking advantage of City's poor defending.

It's obviously not over yet but it'll be difficult for them to make a comeback at Bernabeu so top 4 fight and Fa Cup could be 2 things to play for rest of the season.

Also, Pep is disgusting playing with his spit and taking it back into his mouth. Don't think he was doing that until recently.
 
Has some injuries, made 5 subs, and still had over 200 million left on the bench. Incredible depth while Madrid were patched up
 
Newcastle (H) Madrid (A) and Liverpool (H) their next 3 games.

Decent chance they get nothing form any of them.

with any luck this run will be swiftly followed by a points deduction that roots them in the relegation zone. though i supect they'll have taken care of that.
 
Yeah, can see all 3 teams taking advantage of City's poor defending.

It's obviously not over yet but it'll be difficult for them to make a comeback at Bernabeu so top 4 fight and Fa Cup could be 2 things to play for rest of the season.

Also, Pep is disgusting playing with his spit and taking it back into his mouth. Don't think he was doing that until recently.
He’s been doing the spit thing for years. It’s extremely weird.
 
Yeah, can see all 3 teams taking advantage of City's poor defending.

It's obviously not over yet but it'll be difficult for them to make a comeback at Bernabeu so top 4 fight and Fa Cup could be 2 things to play for rest of the season.

Also, Pep is disgusting playing with his spit and taking it back into his mouth. Don't think he was doing that until recently.
Didn't Joachim Löw have a penchant for sticking his hand down his backside then a few minutes later be caught licking his fingers?
 
Think this is Pep's equivalent to Fergie's early 2000's slump, let's see if he's as good as the great man to rebuild and come back.
 
This City team look so out of sorts. Normally with City at home in Europe you'd expect to see long spells where the opposition is straight pinned in their penalty area, with City holding the ball in the opposition third. But last night, whenever City had extended possession, it was always much deeper, and they never really forced Real into retreat. I think they were so worried about the counter attack they couldnt bring themselves to play higher, but they weren't sitting deep either, just stuck in a nothing zone in the middle. The scoreline and timing of the defeat sort of flatters City. Real could easily have scored 3 by the time Haaland scored from the spot.
 
Think this is Pep's equivalent to Fergie's early 2000's slump, let's see if he's as good as the great man to rebuild and come back.
Not really a slump more or of a had to contend with Arsenals invincibles and Abromavichs billions
 
This City team look so out of sorts. Normally with City at home in Europe you'd expect to see long spells where the opposition is straight pinned in their penalty area, with City holding the ball in the opposition third. But last night, whenever City had extended possession, it was always much deeper, and they never really forced Real into retreat. I think they were so worried about the counter attack they couldnt bring themselves to play higher, but they weren't sitting deep either, just stuck in a nothing zone in the middle. The scoreline and timing of the defeat sort of flatters City. Real could easily have scored 3 by the time Haaland scored from the spot.
Yeah they look physically and mentally shot to me, manager included. They’ll chuck millions at it again in the summer as they did in Jan, but that Club World Cup they’re in during the summer won’t help them from a freshness point of view.

They might still get the FA Cup mind if their luck with the draw so far continues. But hopefully this slump turns into a prolonged one.
 
Not really a slump more or of a had to contend with Arsenals invincibles and Abromavichs billions

It was a slump. Or a rebuilding period. But regardless of the competition, it was the end of one great team and the formative years of Ferguson's next great team

Think this is Pep's equivalent to Fergie's early 2000's slump, let's see if he's as good as the great man to rebuild and come back.

He had one already in 2020
 
It was a slump. Or a rebuilding period. But regardless of the competition, it was the end of one great team and the formative years of Ferguson's next great team



He had one already in 2020
Not to this extent imo, although they came second in 19/20 they still scored over 100 goals that season and finished with 81 points, they then bounced back winning it next year. I think this one will be more difficult as he needs a full rebuild, he also has FFP issues lurking in the background.