So that has nothing to do with regions. Only that you weren't allowed to speak your language. Cool.
Pep Guardiola agrees contract with Bayern
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So that has nothing to do with regions. Only that you weren't allowed to speak your language. Cool.
Rephrase that so I can understand what you are saying.
You are completely missing the point. You are trying to make out that it was only the regions that did not speak castillian that were persecuted. This is not true.
Its not for me to define what Catalonia is, thats for its people to do. Im happy to accept whatever territory they deem to be Catalonia.
It's for the people to do? And how do they do that exactly?
FCBarca isn't catalan.
Wasn't the Basque referendum-like vote stopped a few years ago?
Well he could at least give insight into the catalan culture Im guessing? I mean Barca are the biggest Catalan sporting entity.
You can't have a legally binding referendum, it's not a referendum, it's an opinion poll, only the king can call for a legally binding referendum, something that thankfully also does not exist as a legally binding entity in the United Kingdom.
Basque independence doesnt have the level of support to pass anyway
No, I am not. I am saying that Catalans were discriminated. That doesn't mean that the other regions of Spain were not. Basques have the same right for Independence as Catalans. Obviously, Castellans were not discriminatedfr
Probably as good an insight as a Swedish United could give about Manchester society.
I mean Im not a catalan nor a geographer so I couldnt tell you the exact boundaries you are looking for but Im guessing there is an accepted area known as Catalonia in Spain.
Its difference with some clubs like Celtic or Barca its about the culture as much as the club be it Irish or Catalan both clubs have deep rooted cultural traditions.
Why, because most people in Bilbao and Vitoria don't speak Basque?
No because separatist parties are not in the majority in local government.
I never had you down as a Spanish nationalist Weaste...
Erm! You have a region defined under the Spanish constitution called Cataluña. It was once part of the kingdom of Aragon. If the government of the autonomy of Cataluña wants to make an opinion poll, let it be so, however, there are more Catalans outside of that boundary than in.
The majority of Ulster is British right?
I never had you down as anything to be honest, this is the first time that you have crossed my path. I just think that people should be careful when talking about things they have little knowledge of.
There is no referendum to pass!!!!!!!!
Like I said Weaste Im not expert on Spains goegraphical/political entities but these issues of land boarders always get settled.
And yes 6 of the 9 counties of the Irish province of Ulster in the UK, just dont tell unionists that or they might see the ironry in their "Ulster says No" slogan
What am I lacking knowledge of Weaste? The exact borders yes but as I've conceded Im not geography expert nor have I every been on mainland Spain. The fact that there is an independence movement moving at full stream ahead is something you cant deny, whether you agree with it or not.
The reason I find your viewpoint odd is as an foreigner living in another country its odd to see someone attain a sense of nationalism for their adopted country.
Then maybe I should have said "probably as good an insight as a Swedish Celtic fan".
By the way, a fair few Scots wouldn't appreciate you missing them out and saying "Irish roots", their roots are more Scottish than Irish, Hibs are ones born from an Irish immigrant population.
Im not missing out on the scottish aspect of the club but its roots where it started were Irish. Started by an Irish catholic brother to feed the Irish immigrant catholic population in Glasgow.
Rumors won't die down that he actually is going to sign for Bayern next year.
According to transfermarkt.de, Sky Italy is reporting that Guardiola met with Bayern officials in New York and has actually agreed to sign for them next year.
As so often no quotes from anyone confirming or denying it but I think Pep and Bayern Munich could be a good fit, they have an excellent squad, are already used to playing possession football and are one of Europes top 4 teams atm and are way more stable club than Chelsea.
If Chelsea and Bayern are the only two clubs that are truly considering Pep for next season I could see him choosing Bayern over Chelsea, solely because Chelsea is run by a mad man, even though the Bundesliga might on first sight not be as attractive as the PL.
According to transfermarkt.de, Sky Italy is reporting that Guardiola met with Bayern officials in New York and has actually agreed to sign for them next year.
As so often no quotes from anyone confirming or denying it but I think Pep and Bayern Munich could be a good fit, they have an excellent squad, are already used to playing possession football and are one of Europes top 4 teams atm and are way more stable club than Chelsea.
If Chelsea and Bayern are the only two clubs that are truly considering Pep for next season I could see him choosing Bayern over Chelsea, solely because Chelsea is run by a mad man, even though the Bundesliga might on first sight not be as attractive as the PL.
Yikes, I'd hate to see what he could do with Bayern. As a United supporter I have to hope that it would be a clash of styles and all come to disaster. Also you have to consider how well Bayern have been playing, do they really need a different manager?
Would be very harsh on Heynckes.
Exactly it would be a joke to sack a manager doing this well.
Perhaps Heycknes himself would like to leave Bayern at the end of season. Besides I could still see them being a little mad with him for that last season when they were after three trophies and Borussia edged them to two while they lost a home final to Chelsea. Still, if it had been about that they would have replaced him last year (unless there were simply no better options available).
Heynckes isn't sure if he will continue for another season, he is 67 now and has issued thoughts about retirement in the past so it might be possible that they internally have agreed on this being his last season.
It would be more fitting with what I know of him to go to Bayern as its a club with history, plus it could give him a neat 2 year period in which to come to United say in a couple of years.. but he's a man who does like to surprise people.
Heynckes always wanted to retire after this season. He's a good friend of Uli Hoeneß, I actually can see him being involved in getting Guardiola, declaring he would happily step down if Guardiola is available for Bayern but stay another year if there's no quality successor to be found.
He took over for a few weeks when Bayern fired Klinsmann and helped in choosing van Gaal as the next coach before going to Leverkusen for 2 years. He advised Rummenigge and Hoeneß on several decisions in the past.
I'd love Guardiola at Bayern, would be a major boost for the club, the players and the league in my opinion. But with all these rumours floating around I seriously doubt it's more to it than the sun saying he's off to city. Why would the italian press know more about a spanish manager choosing between english and german clubs than the press in any of the three nations involved?
He took over for a few weeks when Bayern fired Klinsmann and helped in choosing van Gaal as the next coach before going to Leverkusen for 2 years. He advised Rummenigge and Hoeneß on several decisions in the past.
I'd love Guardiola at Bayern, would be a major boost for the club, the players and the league in my opinion. But with all these rumours floating around I seriously doubt it's more to it than the sun saying he's off to city. Why would the italian press know more about a spanish manager choosing between english and german clubs than the press in any of the three nations involved?
I was simply responding to the question and a Catalan NT would be amazing and immediately one of the top teams in the world, if not arguably the best. Plus, who better to lead that team than Catalunya's favorite son, Josep Guardiola.
Moreover, don't presume to know how much I am familiar with politics let alone Catalunya. I'd be happy to contest much of what you've gone on about in a different thread but I'll stick to the topic.
Bayern would definitely tick a lot of boxes for Pep but the move to NY makes me think it was by design - for the Premiership. And I concur, Italian press are hardly reliable in this scenario.
Although I think the Bundesliga is fine and isn't necessarily in need of Pep.
Well, no league is necessarily in need of Pep. But I think Pep moving to germany would boost the reputation of the league a lot and probably help Bayern sign top players. With Klopp, Slomka, Tuchel and Löw definitely not available I really can't see anyone but Guardiola or Heynckes managing Bayern next season.
I wouldn't read too much into the whole moving to New York thing. I'm sure there are a million reasons to stay there for your sabbatical besides language. He's living in one of the greatest cities in the world where few people know him and the media will leave him alone. Imagine him moving to Berlin, the drama surrounding his next job would be insane compared to New York.
I'm not saying it's very likely he'll manage Bayern next season. My guess would be Heynckes is staying another year, Scholl will become assistant coach or stay with the second team but will get a close look into Heynckes' work and then Scholl will take over in 2014. Though watching Pep work with this young generation of immensely talented germans sounds amazing to me, would love to see it.
So you wanted a new country to be created, just because they may play top football?
Are you Catalan by any chance?
Could be, as has been discussed quite a bit already it's hard to precisely gauge what Pep is ultimately looking for. Perhaps he isn't certain either
I just thinking uprooting your family & kids to place them in an English speaking country can't just be a whim - there is likely a purpose to it that goes beyond a 1 year experiment.
Agree on the German talent, they rank only behind Spain in terms of the best talent going along with youth development - and only just
nothing about Calatonia here:
listening to the radio this morning and they were saying that Pep's bought a house in Lake Cuomo (Como?) and that says that he's moving to either Bayern or Milan.
Take that for what it's worth.
Of course they were also saying that Man City have been trying to recruit his former staff at Barca in order to help lure him there.
City, Chelsea & PSG were mentioned as being the only ones that could offer the astronomical salaries so if it's money he wants (and let's face it Paris and London are great cities too) he could go to either of those.
but then the Sun was saying (linked from the Beeb) "last night a top source in Spanish football revealed: It is 100 per cent certain that Guardiola is going to City this summer."
all that being said imo Pep's not going to announce anything until this season is over, or close to it.
listening to the radio this morning and they were saying that Pep's bought a house in Lake Cuomo (Como?) and that says that he's moving to either Bayern or Milan.
Take that for what it's worth.
Of course they were also saying that Man City have been trying to recruit his former staff at Barca in order to help lure him there.
City, Chelsea & PSG were mentioned as being the only ones that could offer the astronomical salaries so if it's money he wants (and let's face it Paris and London are great cities too) he could go to either of those.
but then the Sun was saying (linked from the Beeb) "last night a top source in Spanish football revealed: It is 100 per cent certain that Guardiola is going to City this summer."
all that being said imo Pep's not going to announce anything until this season is over, or close to it.
The international schools in the most countries are english speaking. So if you want to work internationally it is best to let your kids get aquainted to English - no matter where you go to. With kids that can go to school in English schools he is very independent and can choose every country. The big cities in Europe all host international schools were foreign kids get their instructions in English. There might be a couple of schools that offer foreign-language-kids school-systems in their language - there e.g. is a German school in Milan and a french school in Munich - but as much as I know there is no school for kids in the age of Guardiola's oldest kid and older that provides a spanish based curriculum in both cities. The same probably in England.
Heynckes can only loose if he stays another year. This year he can almost be certain that he ends his career with at least one title (if he would not we would not talk about another Heynckes' year at all). Scholl has to prove that he is at least capable to be successful with a team. He has not really been at his first spell with the second team - and he is not very successful right now. And I remember how Hermann Gerland (the assistant coach) talked about Scholl's first time with the U23 in 2008/09. I just doubt that he will have the respect of the players of the first team - and that is the most important to have to be able to "be their boss". If he would get there it would only be because of being Hoeness' pet. And it is not Hoeness time to choose the manager now - it is that of Rummenigge.
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Guardiola in the past has named two players of Bayern being players he would like to have at Barcelona or he wants to work with. Thomas Müller and Javi Martinez. The Bavarian and the Bask are the only two that have contracts with Bayern until 2017.
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And there is still the possibility that Heynckes makes a slow way out and Guardiola a slow way in. Heynckes has - like somebody pointed out in a post above - a special relationship to Bayern and to Uli Hoeness. He spent a couple of the last 20 years as a coach in Spain and Portugal and like this might even help Guardiola get aquainted to Munich, the team and the language and make the way into retirement more and more in the first half of the next season and spent more time in Gladbach with his wife, his dog and his flowers. He already was in retirement 4 years ago after he had serious health problems. Heynckes and Guardiola know each other very well and respect each other - and it could be an experiment that you could blow off if it would not work out fine.
There are quotes from a Guardiola interview on ESPNs website saying how he'd love to coach in the Premier League. I can see City and Chelsea trying to get him, but I honestly dont think he'd go Chelsea, not with the way their run. If City don't win the league I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up there cause surely Mancini would get the flick.
I'd love him here and would take him over Mourinho but I guess it all depends on when SAF decides to call it quits.
I'd love him here and would take him over Mourinho but I guess it all depends on when SAF decides to call it quits.
Interesting discussion last night on the Sky Sports La Liga show. Showed Pep blanking Ronaldo at the Ballon D'or awards.
Ballague reckons its because Guardiola hates Madrid and Jose because of Real's and the press' antics during the period of rivalry, specifically around the "El Classico" matches. Although what this has to do with Ronaldo I don't know. Also said that Pep has a very "thin skin" and feels the pressure.
All very interesting stuff if there's any truth in it. He definately blanked Ronaldo, and Ronaldo looks a bit embarrased about it. Seems a bit petulent to me - you couldn't imagine Fergie doing that - not least because it shows you're actually bothered.
Ballague reckons its because Guardiola hates Madrid and Jose because of Real's and the press' antics during the period of rivalry, specifically around the "El Classico" matches. Although what this has to do with Ronaldo I don't know. Also said that Pep has a very "thin skin" and feels the pressure.
All very interesting stuff if there's any truth in it. He definately blanked Ronaldo, and Ronaldo looks a bit embarrased about it. Seems a bit petulent to me - you couldn't imagine Fergie doing that - not least because it shows you're actually bothered.