I think thats sensationalism, we know the papers. They appear to be quite good friends, as JM and AF also are, I wouldn't read too much into it personally. Still, we could do worse at the end of the day
Pep Guardiola agrees contract with Bayern
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I think thats sensationalism, we know the papers. They appear to be quite good friends, as JM and AF also are, I wouldn't read too much into it personally. Still, we could do worse at the end of the day
I would have agreed with you until the other week when SAF said he would be around for another 2 or 3 years.
if i were him, i'd go to bayern (if utd wasn't an option).
fantastic club, absolutely huge, fantastic facilities, great finances, quality side, good lifestyle, great country.....you can't go wrong with bayern.
fantastic club, absolutely huge, fantastic facilities, great finances, quality side, good lifestyle, great country.....you can't go wrong with bayern.
Also with Jupp Heynckes future still uncertain, there is a chance that Pep might end up there. He also mentioned the Bavarians in his interview earlier, saying that ''the manager of Bayern Munich is Jupp Heynckes. Bayern Munich has a manager and that would be disrespectful to talk about that position.''
Chelsea, Bayern, City, United - reckon it is in that order.
Chelsea, Bayern, City, United - reckon it is in that order.
I reckon Benitez will remain at Chelsea for another year. I can see pep ending up at city 
I have thought since he said he was taking a year out that he was joining us when he came back. No founding for it just have always thought that!
could you imagine pep, jose, and fergie all in the league at the same time...would be class.
Why has fergie never engaged in 'mind-games' with pep? looking back it seems like fergie did not do that prior to either of our last two CL finals.
Why has fergie never engaged in 'mind-games' with pep? looking back it seems like fergie did not do that prior to either of our last two CL finals.
could be wrong here but it seems like he only plays mind games on those that play in the PL.
cause that's how you get'em, in the long(-ish) run, not in the 1 game you face him in the season.
I think he is going to City. I can't see him at Chelsea, he seems too clever to go there. I don't believe he would go to Germany to manage either.
City makes sense for a lot of reasons. But with Pep, you can never be certain
Why can't you be certain with Pep?
Because Pep doesn't operate the way most people do, IMO. He's not driven by money, plays things very close to the vest and is obsessive about all aspects of any project he might choose to undertake. So, it makes it difficult to assess his leanings one way or another.
My best guess on which way I see him leaning based on what I've seen of him over the years, City ticks most of the boxes I imagine he's looking for. It doesn't tick all of them but not sure there's a job outside of Barcelona that would.
He's definitely going to the Premiership, I think that's a foregone conclusion otherwise the sabbatical in NYC to work on English for him & his family was an odd choice. He'll need an ownership that will not demand immediate results or interfere which would rule Chelsea out - regardless of how much Abramovich could profess to change for him. Liverpool has history, great fan support and a decent youth setup but are paupers in the transfer market. United ticks boxes that City can't but SAF doesn't give the impression he's ready to call it quits. Moreover, an inferior youth program setup (Compared to City) would require the Glazers to spend more than they're accustomed to.
City has endless funds, great support for a manager, an impressive youth setup & facilities and Barcelona management already in place. It lacks the pedigree of what I would imagine he'd be seeking but that too has it's advantages as he could develop a mystique for City.
The only other possibility I can see is perhaps Arsenal but who knows, maybe he'd go the route of Laudrup and choose a small club. That's just how unpredictable Pep can be
When did City get a better youth setup than United?
Look at all the successful players that come through our youth ranks and then try to think of one that's come from City's. I really don't get what you mean by that at all.
I may not be a Barcelona fan, but I get the impression United would be the only club in England that would interest him.
I think he is speaking of the facilities available rather than players produced, have City not very recently lavished out on rebranding their youth system? Wouldn't be suprised if their facilities surpassed ours, more than just facilities etc required though obviously
Like when he was paid money to be a ambassador for Qatar's world cup bid?
According to Manchester City‘s official plan submission for the £100 million Etihad Campus, the academy setup will feature (if not boast) the following amenities:
- A home for up to 400 young players who will train and study alongside senior players, with a clear development pathway to the first team
- One half size and 11 full size youth development pitches
- One half size and 4 full size first team pitches
- On site sleeping accommodation and classroom facility for 40 young players to allow them to train and study in a safe and secure environment
- A carefully planned first team building with changing rooms, gym, refectory and injury and rehab centre
- A 7,000 capacity stadium for youth matches
- Staff offices and a dedicated media centre
- A bridge linking the site to the Etihad Stadium and the rest of the Etihad Campus
Looking at current setup and I've seen them in NextGen as well
There's always that possibility, absolutely. I didn't rule them out but I think it'll be City for all the reasons already mentioned
Yeah I suppose FCBarça has an idealistic vision of Pep, of course he gives a certain importance to money, the Qatar example is relevant, his salary at Barça was huge (he and José were the two best paid managers in the world weren't they?).
But I understand what he means. He won't be motivated only by money. I don't think he'd turn to a small club like Laudrup, mostly because of the financial aspect, but he'll go for one of the big clubs. Where I do agree with FCBarça is that between the big ones (say if Utd, City and Chelsea are in for him), he won't go to the one offering the most money because of that, he'll take other factors into account.
But I understand what he means. He won't be motivated only by money. I don't think he'd turn to a small club like Laudrup, mostly because of the financial aspect, but he'll go for one of the big clubs. Where I do agree with FCBarça is that between the big ones (say if Utd, City and Chelsea are in for him), he won't go to the one offering the most money because of that, he'll take other factors into account.
They're obviously going to have better facilities, that comes with the billionaire owner, but I wouldn't say their youth setup was better until they actually produce something. I can't remember the last time they produced anything, maybe Micha Richards who hasn't been seen since 1981. United have a proven track record of producing class players.
Like the fact that he actually played in Qatar as a player. Were he to choose a club in Russia, Uzbekistan or Qatar for his next job with a ridiculous salary, then, sure, we'd be talking about a different Pep.
The Pep I know, money won't be the motivating factor - he's going to get paid well wherever he lands
Precisely. It's the facilities and the potential to produce talent from within the academy that would attract Pep. Especially since you consider City modeled it after La Masia
While I do agree that he will stay for longer but for different reasons*, I think Ferguson will make it a surprise to everyone but a select few when he does finally hang up his chewing gum. He said it was a mistake making it public last time he was thinking about it as he saw the effect it had on the club.
*The fact he is in good health, competitive as ever and he has always said he hated the way his Dad deteriorated when he retired and had no purpose.
So he chose to play for Al Alhi as he was interested in the project?
Last 2 years of his career where he had few options after testing positive for steroids in Serie A (Later acquitted) and fell in love with the country and it's passion/development for the game
It's also those ties that led to his association with the Qatari WC bid
You're barking up the wrong tree if you're implying he's a money whore
More like fell in love with his wallet.
You are being silly if you think he went there for anything other than the cash.
I'm not implying anything but you are looking at him with to much rose tinted specs here. He had plenty of options of were to go. Ferguson also became an ambassador for the Qatar WC bid and it was down to money.
Oh come on....
I don't begrudge a player cashing in right at the end of his career, it's the smart thing to do. But don't try to make it sound romantic.
Pep was the fourth lowest paid coach in La Liga when he made the step up from Barca B to the first team. Obviously success merited his contract improvements, but every contract was a one year rolling contract.
He is 100% my choice for our next manager. Fantastic coach, and I have a ridiculous amount of admiration for him. Not only for the style of play he tweaked and fine tuned, but for his philosophy and his work ethic.
He is 100% my choice for our next manager. Fantastic coach, and I have a ridiculous amount of admiration for him. Not only for the style of play he tweaked and fine tuned, but for his philosophy and his work ethic.
His positive drug test reduced his options in Europe, that's a reality...City even told him no and he couldn't find any top European club to even give him a shot - he went abroad because no one wanted him
Yet, the silver lining in that is Qatar is where his coaching desires were cultivated
Riiight.
You can be cynical but the evidence and his own words reflect my comments
Would lose a lot of respect for him if he decided to take on City's "project."
His own words? feck me. You're talking like a teenage girl in love here.
What player comes out and says "Yeah, this is my chance to cash in and that's exactly what I'll do"?
Why? If you were a coach why wouldn't you want to manage City? Unlimited resources to do basically whatever he felt is needed with the team, the owners seem much more patient than Abramovich, new youth setup, no debt, etc..
The only thing City lack that United have is prestige/history, and if you're Pep that is a "project" that he could help achieve.
How do you know this? We've seen very average coach's win the highest honours in the game. Pep's Barca were probably the most talented squad of players in history. I think following how poorly Rijkaard has done prior and post Barca, everyone should be hugely cautious regarding Pep and keep a very careful eye on how Barca do now he's left.
If Messi left there is no doubt in my mind that Barca would suffer greatly, as he is absolutely key to their success. However, I'd be far less sure that Pep leaving would have any great impact. A lot of football fans make out as if Pep is a coaching version of Messi, yet I wouldn't be surprised if any number of coach's could have seamlessly taken over from Pep, yet virtually no one could replace Messi.
It's not that I don't rate Pep, I just don't think it's really possible to make a decent judgement of him. He hasn't exactly won European honours with Aberdeen!
Yes, his own words - both now and back in 2001-2003. I'm talking like a rational person who goes by the evidence not flights of fantasy, that sounds like a teenage girl in love
You're talking about CR then?
The evidence is out there, people can choose to believe what they want to but that doesn't make it reality. Even a nutter like Ibra talked about how much Pep was a *********** and admonishing him for having to act like a choir boy. Apparently it's much easier to make excuses for someone who actually loves the limelight, money & fame than those who have given zero evidence of being a money whore.
But hey, I get it, it's hard to fathom but that's the way Pep is
Fell in love.
Go on then.And no, I'm not talking about CR. I recognize him for what he is. Unlike you who's just so blindly in love with Pep (which in no way means I discredit his achievements btw) that you refuse to recognize the blindingly obvious.
What's Ronaldo done to him ?
Uncalled for imo. They've hardly had a stormy past or anything.