Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea

where will Pedro go?


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He's from Tenerife but moved to Barcelona from local academy at the age of 16.
Yeah, thought as much. Cheers.

I do see us signing him, no manager in the world can guarantee a player playing time with a front three of Suarez, Messi and Neymar as clear first choice.
 
If he is leaving Barca for regular first team football, I would imagine LvG is probably the wrong manager to play under with his "everyone must prove themselves" attitude.
Van Gaal: "Barcelona have the speed of Neymar and Messi - and they have Pedro behind them. We have to compete with that"

I think Pedro has a good chance of regular football as long as he doesn't do a Di Maria and give up half way throught he season.
 
Expecting this to be wrapped up in the next couple days. Pedro isn't the flagship signing but he's a massive upgrade to Young. Pedro is motivated by playing time not money so hopefully that's a sign he's ready to fight for the cause
 
Pretty sure they said the contract renewal was to reduce the buy-out clause which was €100m+ no?

The 30m is only verbal agreement with player, nothing more. Actual release clause is still more than 100m.
 
The 30m is only verbal agreement with player, nothing more. Actual release clause is still more than 100m.
I don't understand why Pedro has agreed to that. Surely you'd get the verbal agreement written into the contract if you felt strongly enough to verbally agree it in the first place.
 
Exactly. apparently. Also buying players is not just hey give me the player I'll give you the money.

Yes i understand, but i say apparently but this is LVG and Giggs both said towards end of last season they have already identified targets. And i understand negotiations take place, all i'm saying is that those players in a few days before the US tour suggest there was some last minute rush to get them on the plane. You really think that's how it's magically worked out? That we sign nobody before than, and the Sat and Sunday before we fly out on Monday, we get three signings.

But again, that's just how it felt and seemed like to me.

My original point is that, if we are really interested in Pedro, and we know his release clause, why are we pissing around.
 
My issue is that, to me, it's confusing that we've had all summer... apparently all our targets have long been identified and we wait till the weekend before we fly out on tour to bring them in. I'm no expert in football negotiations but that just seems rushed to me. I'm glad we got those players, and glad they came in.. Just to me it seems like there was a bit of panic and rush to get them through and on the plane before we flew out. But hey.. lucky now rather than on deadline day....

Thats the important bit right there.

Football negotiations isn't like Football Manager, in reality it's a ridiculously long process that none of us really have any insight in.
 
Yes i understand, but i say apparently but this is LVG and Giggs both said towards end of last season they have already identified targets. And i understand negotiations take place, all i'm saying is that those players in a few days before the US tour suggest there was some last minute rush to get them on the plane. You really think that's how it's magically worked out? That we sign nobody before than, and the Sat and Sunday before we fly out on Monday, we get three signings.

But again, that's just how it felt and seemed like to me.

My original point is that, if we are really interested in Pedro, and we know his release clause, why are we pissing around.
Woodward's job is to get players LVG wants. He got that before the tour. Weather it is 1 hour or half an hour before boarding plane it doesnt matter.

Anyway - yeah lets get Pedro.
 
I don't understand why Pedro has agreed to that. Surely you'd get the verbal agreement written into the contract if you felt strongly enough to verbally agree it in the first place.
I'd imagine having it as a verbal agreement protects Barcelona from having to accept an offer from say Real or Atletico. Puts Pedro on the market but with some control retained over who they accept the offer from.
 
I think it was more of the case of Real Madrid wanting to get rid because they wanted to fund Rodriguez and Kroos with the money. Turned out to be a good move as both Kroos and Rodriguez have been very good for them.

Didn't they already sign Rodriquez and Kroos mid July and we got Di Maria a few days before end of the window?
 
Don't see the point in him staying. He's 28, he's got 2/3 years of his peak years left at best, and he's never getting ahead of Neymar. For barca he's the perfect backup, but for him barca doesn't make sense anymore.
 
I don't understand why Pedro has agreed to that. Surely you'd get the verbal agreement written into the contract if you felt strongly enough to verbally agree it in the first place.
Barca will respect their verbal agreement. They are not Spurs.
 
Still think this was all intended as a ploy for him to be given guarantees on playing time and we're merely his backup that he will reluctantly take.

Hopefully things don't go south as per Di Maria, players who don't really want to be here will soon head to the door when things go wrong.
 
Still think this was all intended as a ploy for him to be given guarantees on playing time and we're merely his backup that he will reluctantly take.

Hopefully things don't go south as per Di Maria, players who don't really want to be here will soon head to the door when things go wrong.
no he will be fine. Mata, Herrera, De gea (for now), Hernandez (for now) etc, there are loads of Spanish and Spanish speaking guys in our squad.
 
Not really negative. Just calling it how i see it.

Yes i have no idea how long negotiations had been going on for, or when they were completed (although the fact that they all had medicals the same weekend, and had to be presented when we got to the US says something)

It's probably not the thread for it, but if you look throughout the three windows he's been in charge, you can see a lot of confusing behavior.
Look at how long it's taking Chelsea to complete the Baba Rahman deal is that down to confusing behaviour from the board or just how transfer negotiations go?

Another point I think needs made is that the players themselves were on holiday up until when pre-season started so that adds a delay as to when things can be discussed and medicals taking place.

Enlighten us all and what does it say that we announced 3 brilliant signings which we needed in the positions required and you are still finding fault with it.

First window was confusing but that was because of Moyes and his unrealistic targets and relentless pursuit of fabregas and baines and then leaving it too long to get anyone and over paying for Felliani. Last season LVG arrived late (probably woodys fault) and wanted to assess the squad before sanctioning any deals. He still managed to attract Falcao, Herrera and ADM.

This season he has brought in proven quality, we got an international RB for £12m, bargain if you ask me. We have a World Cup winning captain and also one of the best CDM in the league marshalling our midfield. He has also dealt with Real Madrid very professionally and showed how big his balls are on his stance over DDG and Ramos. Whilst doing all that he has managed to negotiate some fantastic sponsorship deals.
 
I don't understand why Pedro has agreed to that. Surely you'd get the verbal agreement written into the contract if you felt strongly enough to verbally agree it in the first place.

Barca need to protect themselves too. If 30m was written into the contract, nothing to stop, say, Real Madrid coming in and triggering it.
 
Snippet of quotes attributed to Pedro from Sky Sports (pretty encouraging he finally mentions us - sort of):

"I know who I am and I will always be of Barca. Such people shouldn't speak in this way. I've not said what Robert's said, or at least not how I said it.

"I'm calm, happy and I will always continue giving everything if I continue at this club. Manchester? Yes, there are nice challenges on all sides.

"Today I'm here and I'm happy. And if I go I will go with my head held high having always given everything. These fans and this club are incredible."


http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ited-target-pedro-unsure-of-where-future-lies
 
Does/can Pedro play LW? I thought he was a RW, which means Depay will continue to play in the hole.
 
I read somewhere that we have till Monday to register an extra player for the Champions League qualifier, if that's correct surly we will try and get Pedro before this?
 
Does/can Pedro play LW? I thought he was a RW, which means Depay will continue to play in the hole.
He can play on both sides. He used play on the right if I'm not mistaken, with Villa on the left, and with time has moved to the left.
 
That seems likely to me as well.

Young -- Depay -- Pedro

Isn't Memphis the one asking Van Gaal to play him through the middle?
No I wouldn't think so. I think he's only playing through the middle because Young is playing so well, and rightly so he's keeping his place as a result of this.
 
Does/can Pedro play LW? I thought he was a RW, which means Depay will continue to play in the hole.
He prefers on the right, but is perfectly capable to play on the left as well. At Barca he usually plays on both sides. Couple of times through the middle, but those are very rare occasions.
 
Barca need to protect themselves too. If 30m was written into the contract, nothing to stop, say, Real Madrid coming in and triggering it.
They can always choose who to sell to though if more than one club triggers it, and of course the player has a massive say too.
 
Does/can Pedro play LW? I thought he was a RW, which means Depay will continue to play in the hole.

I think we could potentially play him there but it's pointless. Mata is the best in central role, Depay is the best on the left and Pedro is the best on the right. To play Mata on the right, Depay in the middle and Pedro on the left would be... Van Gaalesque
 
It's basically a PR struggle between the club and player. The club and player don't want the blame for the transfer.
 
They can always choose who to sell to though if more than one club triggers it, and of course the player has a massive say too.

Actually they cannot. If he had a €30m release clause in his contract and Real Madrid bid that they would have no say.
 
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