Yeah, the way I see it is that Barca have no say in this once we meet the release clause. Only us, Pedro or his agent can drag this out.
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Yeah, the way I see it is that Barca have no say in this once we meet the release clause. Only us, Pedro or his agent can drag this out.
It's not technically a release clause though is it? Isn't it just a gentlemen's agreement. Makes no difference really, I suppose.
Next Tuesday isn't that far off, I don't think they want him until after the Spanish Super Cup just the European one. Considering that even if we signed him today he probably wouldn't feature in the Spurs match, it doesn't make much difference to us if he signs on the 12th. If he gets injured playing that match then it's another matter..
totally agree.
Yep. Barca are a proper club and they keep their word.
That is why Im sure we aint waiting for Barca.
Thing is I don't think it is a release clause in that sense, as mentioned it's probably a gesture of good will and a gentlemans agreement. In that instance Barca can stick to their end of the bargain and let him leave for that amount after the European Super Cup, but not before since they probably want Pedro to show the same good will and help them win it.
We're probably not but I don't think we have much choice since it's probably not a legal release clause but a verbal agreement between Pedro and the powers that be at Barcelona. He's got an outstanding injury record anyway so I'm not- wait no don't want to jinx it.
We're probably not but I don't think we have much choice since it's probably not a legal release clause but a verbal agreement between Pedro and the powers that be at Barcelona. He's got an outstanding injury record anyway so I'm not- wait no don't want to jinx it.
too true.We're probably not but I don't think we have much choice since it's probably not a legal release clause but a verbal agreement between Pedro and the powers that be at Barcelona. He's got an outstanding injury record anyway so I'm not- wait no don't want to jinx it.
Are you sure about this legal stuff? Doesn't feel right with a 'gentleman's agreement' considering the millions at play.
Memphis signed a new contract at PSV after the world cup, turning down a 20m Euro move to Tottenham with a gentlemans agreement to be sold this season. It still happens in this day and age, I assume Pedro has given them enough service for Barcelona to keep their word.
Stories last year were he turned his nose up at Liverpool because he (like a lot of these south american footballing tossers) didn't want to live in Northern England.
Plus we weren't in the CL, so it was probably a non starter from the get go.
What I don't understand, Pedro is a top player. He signed a contract in June with this clause, why the he'll hasn't someone snapped him up the day the window opened.
I don't see other Spanish teams as realistic, but the likes of Chelsea, city, Liverpool (won't stop them trying), bayern? Would all benefit from his ethic.
All I can think of is that he isn't that interested in going to these and he is only considering this transfer now we have seemingly entered the picture.
I don't see other Spanish teams as realistic, but the likes of Chelsea, city, Liverpool (won't stop them trying), bayern? Would all benefit from his ethic.
All I can think of is that he isn't that interested in going to these and he is only considering this transfer now we have seemingly entered the picture.
Chelsea: were linked but maybe Maurenn prefers Willian
City: went big on Sterling
Liverpool: no champions league
Bayern: Robben + Ribery and they've signed Douglas Costa.
Surely Pedro would have been a better purchase for them than Douglas costa especially considering they cost roughly the same amount. I know Pedro is 4 years older but ability wise he smokes Costa.
Thing is at Pedro's age he wants to be a key first team player for a club, he hasn't got time to wait on the bench for Robben or Ribery to retire whereas Douglas Costa probably does and is happy to play second fiddle at this time in his career. If Pedro was he wouldn't be leaving Barca.
I think Costa's ability to beat a man and create is probably a bit more what Bayern need to replace Ribery (sssh....sounds like us as well!
).Pedro is a better finisher and will give us more pace and options through his movement. Bayern already has someone with the best movement and intelligence in the game - Muller.
Edit: add in what Riz said as well.
I'd like to think with Robben and Ribery getting older and in theory more injury prone pedro would have been able to more or less start every game for one of them and then being a perfect suitor when one of them retires.
So for the sake of 5-6 games in the competition with Arsenal before going out to Monaco (at about the same point they have gone out for the past decade) he chooses them over us. Nah I think fans put too much on this.
By that time they'd be looking at replacing Pedro anyway, they're just looking long term I think, would expect them to big on Reus or De Bruyne as proper long term replacements.
Why do you think it's a verbal agreement? Genuine question.We're probably not but I don't think we have much choice since it's probably not a legal release clause but a verbal agreement between Pedro and the powers that be at Barcelona. He's got an outstanding injury record anyway so I'm not- wait no don't want to jinx it.
Release clauses in player contracts are mandatory in Spain, I just assumed that Pedro's new contract contains a new release clause, the one reported in the press.
Nah not based on the CL alone. Liverpool were in the Champions League.
As i said it was widely rumoured he didn't want to move to northern england. United are in the north and weren't in the CL last season so both those factors probably made Arsenal a more attractive destination for Sanchez last summer.
Of course it's also possible we had absolutely no interest in him at all.
From the reports I've read the clause is something like €130m but Barca are willing to accept €30m should that offer come in.
I heard that his clause was due to drop to €30m cause of games played but then he signed a new contract in June which I think was insurance for himself and Barca. That way there's no threat of him walking on a free for Barca and he picks up a bit of extra cash in the mean time and has a stable future should the move fall through.
Just my opinion of course.
How often did you actually watch Costa to come to that conclusion? Honest question, I've seen him maybe 3-4 times over 90 minutes before we signed him and wasn't excited about the signing at all. But so far he has been fantastic and he seems to be the creative winger, we needed so much as a replacement for Ribery. He constantly takes on players and creates chances.
Pedro was nothing like that for Barca or Spain. He was always the intelligent runner in a supporting role with good finishing and tactical understanding to execute the manager's plan. We have enough options as wide forwards in the team, we don't need Pedro at all. While I've no clue how Douglas Costa will turn out, simply because I don't know him well enough, I'm sure that Pedro wouldn't be able to fill Ribery's shoes in the team. Different player and the gap in quality is way too big.
I was a bit embarrassed by that one, I saw him a dozen of times and though that it was a meh signing, despite the fact that he is a good player. But he really impressed me so far.
It's only pre-season, you could still be right. But let's hope you're not.
I think its because he played for Shaktar, quite a few of their players were/are very good but of course don't get rated that highly. Its also hard to tell how they would do at bigger clubs, but seeing him play a few times, it was always clear he had a lot of talent. The same goes for Willian, who I think is a better player than Mou lets you see, and also Fernandinho too.
But I rates their players generally for example Fred and Texeira are good players, they should play in bigger leagues. It's just that Douglas Costa is good but I thought not Bayern good, but I was probably wrong.
Yeah thats what I mean, their players are rated, but making the step up to Bayern or for instance if he went to Barca, people would also say hmmm probably not good enough.
What makes me hope is the fact that overall, and especially in central midfield, we didn't look like world beaters at all so Costa didn't just shine because he's surrounded by such a great squad for the first time in his career (not saying that's not a factor, though!). Most of the time, it was Costa himself im who managed to create things out of thin air without being put into great situations in the first place.
If he can keep that up we'll consider him a bargain in no time.
We should probably wait and see before we start eulogising Costa. Lingard is the Pele of pre season yet nobody would place him into contention for a first team spot.
Personally I think Pedro would have been perfect for Bayern. Pep must have enquired about him if not for the value at least
Personally I think Pedro would have been perfect for Bayern. Pep must have enquired about him if not for the value at least
Have we signed him yet? The di Maria transfer was announced ages ago...
I don't think the Di Maria transfer was holding up the Pedro one, but I do hope that was the issue so this can be resolved as soon as possible!
So is he coming or not? Sort it out quickly Mr Ed
I think this will be done quickly now as the club will want some positive news after the Di Maria sale.
Yep, no need to drag this out any longer, let's get him wrapped up.
He'll be ours by this weekend.
Hopefully he's at OT on Saturday
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