Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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You did well.I didn't miss that all, I'm thorough like that.
It's a really exciting signing, the sooner it all gets sorted the better. Be great to have him for the opening day, but I can't see it at the moment.
He'd be perfect signing for Van Gaal system, hard working,technically flawless, can treble, good finisher.
Can complement well with Rooney/Depay in front 3 position.Comes with vast experience.
Most importantly we got player who got wining mentality in him which would impact team positively.
All in all its sensible signing with less price burden.
Can complement well with Rooney/Depay in front 3 position.Comes with vast experience.
Most importantly we got player who got wining mentality in him which would impact team positively.
All in all its sensible signing with less price burden.
Pedro stops us from bringing academy players through.. how does that work when Januzaj and Perreiras best positions are not as wingers?
An attack consisting of Depay - Rooney - Pedro, and backed up by Mata, Hernandez, Young, Januzaj and Pereira. Not bad at all. I still wished we kept RvP though.
Pedro dovetailing with Mata/Herrera with Rooney & Depay in front could be pretty lethal. Especially with Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger/Carrick available as two deeper midfielders
I'd be really happy if we got him, think he'd fit the system like a glove. He's not as talented as Di Maria but he's full of desire to actually contribute all over the pitch, I can't see him sitting on the ground after losing the ball while the opponents counter. For the price being bandied about I definitely think it'd be worth it.
Fair enough
Memphis - Mata - Pedro is what I would like to see behind Rooney. You could expect a lot of Goals from These 3.
I think we're taking this Pedro 'reserve' thing a bit too much TBH. There were cases when a club allowed itself to be dragged into full football manager mode and ended buying players who were close/slightly better to what they already have. AC Milan did that when they bought Roberto Baggio when they already had Dejan Savicevic. Manchester United committed the same mistake by buying JSV when they already had Paul Scholes and I feel Barcelona had been committing the same mistake with Pedro. Usually this end up in misery with either one of the players leaving on peanuts. I am a firm believer of having quality strength in depth but people like Pedro, Scholes or JSV are impossible to keep on the bench for long.
Another common mistake usually made is to bring a player mainly because of his talent and reputation. JSV and Di Maria are classic examples of such mistake, although I can mention other players as well like for example Berbatov. One player, irrespective of how good he is, will not be able to change an entire system.
In my opinion Pedro is the classic example of a prophet not recognised in his own country. In terms of stats he's got similar stats to ADM which is quite amazing considering that he had spent the last few years competing for a first team role with the likes of Messi, Neymar, Sanchez and Suarez. Also he seem to be more suited to our game than ADM.
If he's coming, what's the big deal about the fecking Super Cup?
What's with the obsession over fast and creative players? I am sure plenty of teams have managed to be successful without exceptionally quick players. Possession football isn't even about pace.
It sounds like sour grapes but I honestly think Pedro is better than di Maria & if he does sign I don't think it will take long for everybody to realise that.
I think Pedro will do better here but in no way is he a better player.
I too think Pedro is the better player. He is also better educated in football and the better team player.
I assume the reason this isnt getting done is cos we are pursuing other options too and testing the waters.
Slightly surprised other clubs arent interested and looking to sneak in, unless Pedro has said that its only us that he fancies. Seems like a relatively good fee for a player with his experience and ability, especially with the Euro low.
If we are looking at bigger signings fair enough, but season is kicking off now surely we need to get our business progressing. Bale rumours etc I think seem like Ed's standard pursuit of unavailable players. 100mil, if true, surely we'd be better getting Pedro and Lewadowski or similar and potentially a CB for those fees. Although a Bale transfer would be brilliant if one could get pushed through. Really surprised Greizman isnt being linked with a few clubs.
Slightly surprised other clubs arent interested and looking to sneak in, unless Pedro has said that its only us that he fancies. Seems like a relatively good fee for a player with his experience and ability, especially with the Euro low.
If we are looking at bigger signings fair enough, but season is kicking off now surely we need to get our business progressing. Bale rumours etc I think seem like Ed's standard pursuit of unavailable players. 100mil, if true, surely we'd be better getting Pedro and Lewadowski or similar and potentially a CB for those fees. Although a Bale transfer would be brilliant if one could get pushed through. Really surprised Greizman isnt being linked with a few clubs.
That's my 1st choice too. It would solve a lot of our problems.
He's definitely not the better player but definitely better suited to our team at the same time.
big deal for barca i guess. counted as a trophy at the end of the season.
Would you honestly have said that a year ago?
You're right, it does sound like sour grapes. A better fit is probably the phrase you're looking for, ridiculous to say he is a better player.
A year ago people on here were talking about him being in the Top 5 of players in world football.
They want to win everything in 2015/2016.
It's on
And people on there where losing their minds. But Pedro isn't really the better player.
To be honest, I don't really follow La Liga that much. I was barely even aware that Di Maria had an amazing season before we signed him since his output isn't reflected in statistics. I don't need to watch La Liga though, to understand that being an integral part of one of the most successful teams in football history, while also winning the World Cup, certifies that you are a world class player. Pedro's output is further underlined by statistics, and I really like that he has played with Messi et al., whilst being schooled by probably the best staff available.
Pedro isn't the better player, but unlike Di Maria, Pedro is a safety blanket for Barcelona, he just delivers.
Not without reason.
But the Super Cup is like the Audi Cup - meaningless. The Charity Shield of European football.
I agree with that. H'es a hard worker and technically sound, but he isn't winning games for you on his own.
He fits what we're trying to do here though and frankly, Di Maria clearly wasnt interested in being here so its good business for me. He could be a key player this season.
That's your opinion, you're entitled to it & I don't want to get into a debate where I end up slagging di Maria off just to try to make a point because he's a very good player but I cannot see why people believe it's unthinkable that some people believe Pedro is the better player.
He suffered because of Tito & Martino trying to squeeze Fabregas in the team down the middle, which in hindsight was indisputably the wrong move & made them a much worse team, & he suffered last year because they brought in Suarez. He's criminally underrated on here & he's proven to be a very effective player when he's played, something that can't be said for di Maria.
That's your opinion mate, doesn't mean it's true. It's all about how you define a good player. For me, Pedro has more of the qualities I look for in a player I want in my team. He's smarter, better at positioning, more clinical finisher, higher work-rate etc. Given that we have a stronger central midfield this year, the creative burden on attacking players have decreased, while the requirement for end-product has increased.
This I agree with - "a better fit".
I said months ago that DI Maria wasn't suited to English football but also to the LVG possession based game, needing space to run into.
Pedro I think will offer more cleverness - better one touch passing and link up play.
ADM by the end either whipped a (mostly) ineffective cross in, shot from 20 yards (and almost always missed) or just gave the ball away.
For you maybe but not for them, their ambition is to win every game.
If you're talking about di Maria, then yeah, the year they won the CL he was up there with Ronaldo.
Di Maria has never been rated amongst the world's best players. You wouldn't find him in many top 30-40-50 lists. His last Madrid season has skewed people's perspectives.
True, Pedro wouldn't be in many either. But it's like Carrick vs Toure. Quietly effective underrated players vs bombastically eye-catching players. Pedro fits the system better, is schooled in the right style of football that fits LvG, and will be steadily effective for the duration of the season rather than having a big high then many lows.
True, Pedro wouldn't be in many either. But it's like Carrick vs Toure. Quietly effective underrated players vs bombastically eye-catching players. Pedro fits the system better, is schooled in the right style of football that fits LvG, and will be steadily effective for the duration of the season rather than having a big high then many lows.
Di Maria can win a game by himself, Pedro can't or more accurately never did. They both play at a very high level and for most of their career they are on par.
People seem to be looking at his last 6 months for Real & believing that to be the level he's played at throughout his whole career. It's not. He was a very good player for them but that 6 months was an anomaly compared to his whole time there.
Pedro is class, everything he's done in his career so far has demonstrated that... he'll be an incredible signing for us... a better signing then ADM will be for PSG i'm going to predict.
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