As long as he's better than Navas has been for City
Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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As long as he's better than Navas has been for City
sorry didnt get your point. maybe i misunderstood you in the first place
yeah but maybe we have exhausted other options. reus/griezmann/bale etc. im sure we must have tried before settling for pedro. im sure nobody here thinks that the aforementioned players are not better than pedro. its just that no one is available.
he was not a regular starter for last year because in front of him is MSN I believe, and of course Messi and Neymar played on the wings, competing with him. for the year before that he managed the second highest appearance minutes in Barca front line
maybe appearances dont account for starts. thats something that has to be checked. he does come on as a late substitute quite often when the game is already done and dusted
And scored 20 goals.
I agree, we shouldn't be after Barca rejects. IMO we should bid for Neymar. Just after we sign the next Messi of course.
Ridiculous opinions, I can't believe so many people don't want him. Proven winner, experienced but also in right age, versatile, hard worker, knows the system van Gaal wants us to play. I understand some don't rate him, but this signing makes perfect sense.
Ridiculous opinions, I can't believe so many people don't want him. Proven winner, experienced but also in right age, versatile, hard worker, knows the system van Gaal wants us to play. I understand some don't rate him, but this signing makes perfect sense.
I don't know if you are interested but in the last two years there is only 400mn between Neymar and Pedro.
its confusing how to interpret that. is it down to ease with which players score in la liga and how good the entire barca supporting cast is or is it that pedro is a very good player.
Firstly it's clear that he has more talent than the likes of alves babel altidore and all. Secondly I don't think anyone expects him to score 30. At max maybe 10 goals 5-6 assists
again 28 starts still the second highest
They play mostly 4231, so a slightly different role for Pedro than in 433 (the original poster I responded to saying Pedro couldn't play as a proper winger). They've also played a 4411 and 460, and I've seen Pedro on either flank or through the middle or having a license to roam.
He's extremely versatile and would play either wing for us or as the second striker in LVG's current formation of choice.
I would really love to why there is a debate about a player, who one of the biggest clubs in the world Barcelona gave so much time to, who scored 20 goals on the wing in a team that had it's issues that season, is an average player?
im interested in knowing the stats for starts and goals. also i think against whom is also an important aspect. thats why its so difficult to judge
I don't believe in luck why would Pedro be the only player in that Barcelona team who isn't very good but play and score goals?
because people will always suspect that barca midfield that creates the space and makes that killer pass is the real reason behind pedros goals. the fact that he comes on in matches when the result is a foregone conclusion helps him score goals against uninspired and demotivated opposition. people will always doubt. but like i said earlier for 20m he would be a good addition
I think we should be happy first that we can have a consistent winger threat near the goal if he comes here
Well put. Agree with this.
If you go back a few posts there is a mention about how Memphis is the AdM replacement and would get us the goals and perhaps even produce more than AdM. So no not everyone here seem to think that 10 goals and 5-6 assists is a realistic expectation.
Never really got that argument. I can see where it comes from, but at the end of the day they don't just put anyone out there - they put quality players. He also has a decent scoring ratio for Spain for a winger, a goal just over every three appearances.
I've said it before, only last season was he turned to that role
nah it's not easy to score goals coming late on even when result is foregone conclusion. teams will look to play out the remaining time and ensure they don't concede rather than try to attack
Really? That's the logic?
Last season Adm scored 4 goals and had 11 assists?
He's much better than Walcott ffs.
Pedro has scored 98 goals and made 63 assists in little more than 300 games in his career.
He has the habit of scoring important goals as well, which is pretty rare:
In CL:
In the elimination stage in CL he scored against Inter, United, Real, Stuttgart, PSG
Started in and played in the 2 finals against us in CL, last year was the only one he didn't start, came on for 1 minute and got an assist.
Scored against Real in La Liga and in cup, hit 2 against Bilbao in Copa del Ray final.
In comparison Sanchez, who everybody wanks himself silly, has scored in 2 games in CL for Barca in 3 seasons.
the first poster generalizes that you don't improve by signing rejects, which is countered by examples. Nothing illogical?
23m is a decent price.
i feel the argument is fair since its not about who they put on but about the mentality of a la liga team playing mightly barcelona. theres no denying that their mentality is affected when theyre already 2 or 3 nil down and its nearing the end of the game. his performances for spain have been uninspiring but that could also be becuase in search for a regular striker they tried to play him down the middle too often which is not his position. im not saying hes not a good player. i would still maintain that there are better options out there but for 20m hes a good buy
cant say that ive seen that kind of attitude from most la liga teams against the big two.
Anyone who thinks that Pedro will have a similar type of resurgence here is off their heads. First of all he has never been a Sanchez/Robben/Ibra type player who can create magic out of nothing. He is a goalscoring winger who will rely upon chances fed to him (something Barcelona can provide in their sleep but we will struggle to do)
Jaysus, he's responding to the comment that teams can't improve by signing other clubs rejects, and gave examples which show it's not always the case. Keep up.
What I like about him is he seems genuinely two-footed. Crossing, shooting, it doesn't really matter he's very comfortable off both feet.
That is a genuine talent to have in a pacey winger. Should add a bit more unpredictability to our attacks from wide.
That is a genuine talent to have in a pacey winger. Should add a bit more unpredictability to our attacks from wide.
Exactly as @darioterios said. The examples show that 'rejects' can be successes, not that Pedro will be a success.
For what it's worth I think he will be, as he is pretty much perfect for the Van Gaal system.
You don't think a team consisting of Schweinsteiger, Carrick, Herrera, Mata, Depay and Rooney would create chances for a player with excellent pace and movement?
Im gonna stick my neck on the line and say he'll be better then Silva this season if he signs for us. Different position i know but attacking wise i think he'll score and assist more.
From the info I saw he scored 6 in the league, 5 in the cup and 0 in Europe.
we were talking about the 13-14 season
That's true but the poster talked about rejects in general.
13/14 season, where he played 2nd most minutes out of any Barcelona forward. He scored 19 goals actually not 20.
thats the general assumption here that we will not be able to provide the same kind of service but only time will tell. i still dont think he will be a regular starter. and as i mentioned a few days back (and got chastised for it) after selling di maria we still need to sign a world class player who can score and create goals. pedro is just one piece of the puzzle
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