Thing is van Gaal considers Januzaj a striker. He bulked up a lot which improved his power, balance and the ability to hold up the ball which is fundamental for a van Gaal striker.
Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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He is young and untested in the league but he's already a very good player, and quite frankly, I'd be disappointed if he didn't do more then Di maria did last season basically, such was the minimal impact Di maria had. He had a decent amount of assists but performance wise he was poor, so its not like we're losing a key player of the squad, or even a starting 11 player. He could have potentially become that, but he never showed not apart from the first 2 months.
As has been said by others, replacing Di Maria's output of last season can't be our target when it comes to our attack. That would just be us maintaining last season's low standards in that aspect of our play.
Then you have very high and unrealistic expectations from him. I would be more than happy if he gets as many goals and assists as Di Maria has.
Err, Di Maria scored 5 goals for us. Pedro has hit double figures for the last six seasons, sometimes 20+.
They are talking about Depay, not Pedro...
Memphis scored almost 30 goals last season... With us in all comps, I'm pretty confident that he'll score more then 5 goals for us, especially as it looks like he'll play behind Rooney so will be on the end of a lot of chances but also will supply the killer ball pretty often.
He scored them in the Dutch League so it doesn't automatically equate to him scoring the same amount in the PL. A season total of 10 goals and 10 assists would mean an outstanding output. That shouldn't be the minimum expectation.
Thank feck it's the Metro reporting the story.
Quoting Tancredi. That's a new low for journalism. Quoting twitter accounts.
Yeah, he's probably not the signing most want but I think he'll prove a good addition over the course of the season.
I for one would welcome this signing. As long as he is ready to fight for his place.
I seriously can't understand why somebody would be so against signing Pedro like you are, who has been a starter/squad player for both Spain and Barcelona during their most successful eras. Starter for arguably the best club side ever, and he's only £20m, and at 27 years old should be right in his prime.
I'd be delighted with Pedro. He'd fit in like a glove and would make us a better team.
Impressive. God Suarez is good by the way.
Like Terry, shame he is such a/an (insert expletive of choice here). Both are seriously good players but impossible to discuss without saying 'but.'
But he's not, he's now a squad player at Barcelona, the fact that they're prepared to let go a player who has come through the youth team, speaks volumes in my opinion.
The Pedro of today is not the same player as Pedro 08/09.
It's about as good a winger as you can expect for twenty million quid. He'll be 28 the day after tomorrow, but should still have at least a good 2-3 years at his best.
They are not prepared to let him go. Club officials, players and fans alike have all said they don't want to see Pedro leave. The only people saying otherwise are negative United fans.
What can they do if he wants first team Football in time for the Euros? He is only a squad player because of that front 3 they have. They want Pedro to stay.
That is maybe because they have three out of four best strikers in the team. Insert any attacker's name bar Ronaldo (and maybe Muller/Hazard) and you'll get the same result.
Pedro of today is a much better player than Pedro of 08/09. Pedro of 2010-2012 was better though, but maybe that was cause he was a regular back then while now is a squad player.
I don't see how can anyone be against this signing, especially if it is 20-25m. He would be an upgrade in Young and Di Maria (Di Maria of last season, not Di Maria of 13-14 who played for Madrid).
While people whinge about us spunking silly money on stars like Di Maria and Falcao, I have to say I'll be pleased if we sign Pedro for £23m. Really does feel like the "right" sort of buy.
Pace to burn, something we've been lacking. Technical yet direct, capable of both scoring and assisting and versed in the sort of system Van Gaal plays.
It does make a lot of sense. Especially as he will seemingly be coming with no sort of price tag to hang over him.
Pace to burn, something we've been lacking. Technical yet direct, capable of both scoring and assisting and versed in the sort of system Van Gaal plays.
It does make a lot of sense. Especially as he will seemingly be coming with no sort of price tag to hang over him.
The fact he's a youth player means nothing. We were prepared to let Becks go. They recognize he's 27/28 and they're doing what Sir Alex would have done. The decent thing. They leave it up to the player and he's not going to put any of Barcelona's front 3 on the bench.
The way I see it, a new challenge could be the makings of Pedro as an established player because if he stayed at Barcelona, he probably wouldn't be as appreciated because of who he's competing with. They'd just take him for granted. He would have an opportunity to come here and be an important player.
Not told you're important and then put on the bench. He has the chance to be an important player and he's lost nothing that got him where he is today. He's still very quick and a threat in behind and in front of defenses.
squad player for MSN, hardly something to be ashamed
He's under contract, if he comes to Utd, it means they're prepared to let him go. There's nothing negative in expressing an opinion on a Pedro, he's a good player, but he's not a significant upgrade on what we already have. We have too many squad players or players with potential, we should be adding real quality to the team, which is clearly what Van Gaal thought he was getting last season with Falcao and ADM.
They can do what they fecking like, he's under contract.
Not if someone pays the release clause.
He negotiated in a release clause when signing his latest contract. They want him to stay but if it is met and he wants to go, i don't think they can do that much about it.
Having said that i think they would have let him go having brought in Turan had they been able to play/register others. That will happen only in January so i suppose they probably don't wanna sell till then for this reason plus he's homegrown etc....
Agree with the Bolded anyway. He's not a significant improvement over what he have if at all.
He's not better then Ashley Young?
They don't want to let him go but he wants to be a starter as he is 27 now so he has a release clause of 30m euros. They'd be delighted if he stayed, but they're not going to force him to stay when he won't be a starter. And I have no idea how anyone can use him only being a squad player at Barca as a negative. He has 3 of the best 4 players in the world in front of him, no matter who they bought, they would be a squad player. Hazard, Aguero, Silva, Robben, Bale, Reus... It doesn't matter, they would all be squad players and wouldn't get any more game time then he did. They had Sanchez and Fabregas as squad players and both were disappointing and didn't fit in style wise and technique wise they weren't quite good enough. Then they come to the premier league and become the best players in the league. Not saying Pedro is quite as good, but him being on the edge of starting for Barcelona throughout their most successful era says something.
And yes, today's Pedro isn't as good as the one in 10/11. He's off form and lost a lot of consistency because he's not a starter anymore like he was then, and Barca right now have a lot more freedom in their attack for their players to show more individualism. Under Pep, Pedro was brilliant, because it was a pretty strict tactical shape, like Van Gaals. The type Pedro excels in. So there's every chance he could get back to his best here at United, given the play time that every player needs to get their consistency back.
He has 50-odd caps for Spain playing in different positions and formations.
It comes down to you thinking he's not that good or as good as he was. Most people disagree. If he can play with the right attitude then him and depay will give us some great pace on the break. I would fancy Pedro being more effective then Di Maria. Pedro can do a lot of things, but he will get goals. I don't think we'd sign him to be a squad player. In fact I bet you, Pedro would not leave Barcelona if he was told he'd find himself in a similar position.
No chance. Ronaldo is the one player in the world who would get into that side ahead of Neymar. No other player would be good enough to displace Neymar or Suarez (as they're 3rd and 4th in the world IMO), they just suit the side perfectly.
No they can't. He has a release clause.
They have let Fabregas go. Does that speak volumes?
Besides Pedro has a release clause so they can do feck all about it.
No they can't. If a player wants to play and you can't offer him what he wants then it's only fair to let him go. Think Petr Cech.
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He has a release clause, it's upto Pedro if he leaves or not.
Pedro while being half the player Di Maria is will be twice as effective.
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