Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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Getting 65m euros for Di Maria and spending half of that on Pedro would be great imo.
I would have wanted Angel to have another season and would have wanted it to work for him, but I also think Pedro would suit our system more
Would be really happy if we end up getting him.
Having Pedro, Mata, Young, Memphis (and Januzaj and Lingard) would be a good choice (three out of 6).
I would have wanted Angel to have another season and would have wanted it to work for him, but I also think Pedro would suit our system more
Would be really happy if we end up getting him.
Having Pedro, Mata, Young, Memphis (and Januzaj and Lingard) would be a good choice (three out of 6).
Yes please.
Hopefully in midfield behind them, next to Carrick/Schweinsteiger/Schneiderlin... I know Schneiderlin has played there ahead of him this pre season, but Herrera is just a better player IMO and will hopefully win his place back again. If we're doing a 4-2-3-1 then I don't see Herrera being the #10 too often, as Van Gaal probably wants a more attacking player and more of a goal threat there more often then not, like Mata/Memphis/Januzaj/Pereira.But then what about Herrera?
For the big games where we need more steel in midfield, I'm guessing it'll probably be a 4-3-3, Carrick/Schwein, Schneiderlin and Herrera in midfield, with 2 of Mata, Memphis, Pedro on the wings with Rooney up front. Loads of games this season so it'll probably be more who is on form, as there probably wouldn't be much between those 3 wingers and those 4 midfield options, so 1 of them would have to sit out, but we need the depth and they aren't the sort to complain either. They're all hard workers who will fight to get back in.
If anyJuan's going to convince him to sign for us then Juan's our mJuan.
Pedro a shit
Likewise mate.
His pass to Suarez for his offside goal was
I hope someone gets a GIF of this.
Fecking leave him alone, Mata
While he was by no means amazing, I think he did show almost exactly what he is. He's Barcelona's Ashley Young, a more technical one but the same honest player who goes forward but also tracks back to help his teammate and does a good job in the team's buildup. He also put some good balls into the box for teammates. And on top of that he's a regular goalscorer
No he's not exciting but he'd help us play good football and score goals
No he's not exciting but he'd help us play good football and score goals
He's just a slightly better version of Ashley Young minus the defensive tracking. He's by no means spectacular and in my opinion, if he is the AdM replacement we have in mind, then I am seriously worried.
He went back to defend and did a good job plenty of times today
And there were plenty of times where he didn't. Given that he played at Barca, he presses the defenders of the opposition well high up the pitch, but I saw on plenty of occasions that he missed tracking a run from one of our defenders.
We aren't going to play a high press game. So I honestly don't see the value add in bringing him in. I have seen a couple of mentions in this thread advocating Pedro starting ahead of Mata, imo Mata should be playing centrally (a role he's better at than Pedro) and Memphis on the right (who has great potential). I do not see the need for Pedro. He just isn't flexible enough.
Since when does United and Van gaal not play a high press game? We don't press like crazy but we tend to press pretty highly and aim to win the ball back pretty quickly.
This forum is crazy sometimes ....
Tell me do we see our players pressing the central defenders? No. Not that I have seen. Even you seem to agree that we don't press that highly, but Barca do and Pedro is effective when he does that.
Someone please post their stats over the last few seasons...
I can post them myself.
Pedro: Played 35 Goals 11 Assists 6
Young: Played 26 Goals 2 Assists 5
Source: whoscored
So you basically just disproved yourself
Pedro is a much better player than Ashley Young
We already do. And Young has let his man get in before too
Pedro isnt flexible.. whut?
Not really. He was playing with the likes of Messi,Suarez next to him. So obviously more attention is dedicated to them rather than Pedro. Also he's playing in La Liga. So we should take into account the inflated numbers as well. I admit I shouldn't have used the word marginally but I stand by the fact that he isn't an extraordinary talent.
Has he in his entire career played in any other formation other than a 4-3-3? He's a perfect system player. So how is he flexible?
Of course he's flexible, he can play anywhere across the front line. He'd be a very good replacement for Di Maria who is almost certain to be leaving now.
He plays as a winger,can play left and right,so thats flexible,it doesnt matter if he played in a same formation.
Thanks Olly, that balance, footwork, technique and awareness is top class.
Agreed. I think he'd do a good job for us.
He played wingback and inside forward in a 3-4-3.
I think a lot of people don't rate Pedro because he isn't a star player in that he doesn't stand out in any department. He is effective and good at mostly everything needed for his position. I agree that he would suit our system much more than Di Maria which is why I believe we should sign him.
It's truly amazing what you can see on here. A player who has performed outstandingly in the world cup, the champions league and la liga throughout his career is labelled crap and slightly better than Ashley young. I'd love to sit down with them over a nice red wine and discuss who they rate and who they don't.
It's truly amazing what you can see on here. A player who has performed outstandingly in the world cup, the champions league and la liga throughout his career is labelled crap and slightly better than Ashley young. I'd love to sit down with them over a nice red wine and discuss who they rate and who they don't.
The fact this needs saying is ridiculous. I mean, honestly, who the feck thinks Ashley Young is comparable with Pedro?
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Saying Pedro isn't flexible positionaly is like saying De Gea isn't a goalkeeper.
Saying Pedro isn't flexible positionaly is like saying De Gea isn't a goalkeeper.I'm convinced some of these people haven't watched him at all and are just going by stats alone.This forum sometimes
Comparing Ashley Young to Pedro literally hurt my head. Literally.
Even on stats alone, he's managed double figure goals in every season since his first full season (09/10) and in three seasons he scored at least 20 goals. Statistically, he blows most United players in recent times out of the water.
They will say its because he played for barca and all his goals were laid on a plate for him... numpties
Slightly better? Seriously?
Look at this page and you'll know.
How many times? Once?Twice? When was this because I have never seen him play there consistently.
He actually plays wing forward but that's just semantics. So I will leave it. Now all of pre season, we have played with a double pivot with Memphis playing the 10. 4-2-3-1 is what we have played. Its not a 4-3-3 and going by LvG's comments regarding the lineup for Spurs game, I doubt that we will change the formation.
Alternatively, one could also make the argument that he is being overrated here because he's playing at Barcelona. Don't get me wrong I don't hate Pedro as such.I admit I went overboard with the Ashley Young comparison, but the Pedro we would get is actually not the same player he was when he played against us in the CL final. He had 2-3 terrific seasons during the peak Barca years. I would love it if he could replicate that form here (if we sign him). But he hasn't been that player for 2-3 seasons now. So sorry if I don't sound overly excited by this signing.Certainly not enthusiastic if he's the player we sign as a direct replacement for AdM because he just does not produce as many chances as AdM does.
Alternatively, if we are selling Young and are getting Pedro in as a direct replacement, and are signing another player as an AdM replacement (hoping its Reus) then I am all for this signing. In fact I had be ecstatic if this happens.
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Again he has played Wing forward in a 4-3-3. I don't think he can play as an out and out winger especially because he has never done that in his entire life.
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