Ah alright.
I'm not sure about Mata to be honest. Lvg doesn't seem to want to use him centrally. He's not that great on the right. I can see Pedro giving him a good fight for the right wing spot if we sign him.
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While I agree Sanchez is on a different level to Pedro, most Barca fans are of the opinion that Pedro was the better player of the two at Barca (or suited them better). Pedro from a few years ago was class as well, so if he could get that level back, it would be a great signing. But I don't agree with ruling out a player just because he is a squad player at Barca. Literally any attacking player in the world that isn't ronaldo would be a squad player at best, as they have 3 of the 4 best in the world starting in their front 3.
He'll also come at a cheap price, and will give us qualities that were sorely lacking from last season. He has real pace to get in behind and is a very clinical winger, so he'd improve us. Also who knows how good he'd be given a bigger role then just supplying Messi like he was at Barca. Many Barca players look average there, but when moving, look a level above most, as the standards there are higher then at pretty much any other club technically speaking. I don't think he's anything amazing like, but at 20m he's definitely worth it and would give us something we lack on that right wing.
The only reason I wasn't was because of the quality they already have in that position and even then I still thought it would've been a very smart purchase.
You dont know if he is a game changer yet though. Veron was meant to be a game changer for us, it never worked out like that. In the end, an english lad from Newcastle ended up being the most important midfield signing for United in the last 10-15 years. No one thought Carrick was a game changer in 2006.
Good point
I think I missed something at the weekend. Did Woody or someone else say we were in for Pedro or is it just a rumour we're in for him?
Starting for Barça today vs LA Galaxy.
My guess is Pedro is the ADM replacement in the waiting.
Pedro is a better team player though especially in a passing oriented side. He's always been a better passer than Sanchez, always.
Would love to see Pedro at United if the reported fee is correct. What we needs is goals, and Pedro can provide them from the wide area. If he is coming here willingly, then even better.
Based on Lucho's comments in the post match, I'm inclined to say Pedro is more out than in
Would be a good deal I think.
He can cover all 3 forward positions. If he comes we'll have a versatile forward line which can change positions.
Also it would pave the way for ADM leaving with which I'm calm about. I lean towards him leaving if he wants to leave.
He can cover all 3 forward positions. If he comes we'll have a versatile forward line which can change positions.
Also it would pave the way for ADM leaving with which I'm calm about. I lean towards him leaving if he wants to leave.
Good point. Pedro has always maintained s high passing accuracy .
I don't want Pedro. Im assuming he will play as a left winger cutting in and not as a striker. I would prefer to give Lingard, Pereira more first team experience rather than signing another winger. And I still do not want even if we sell Di Maria. We have Young, Depay, Januzaj already who can play in that position.
If we sell ADM he needs to be replaced, the other players aren't good enough.
well we will never know unless they are given a chance. Not to mention that Young was one of our best players of the season last year keeping Di Maria out of the team. So can't be that bad. The youngsters deserve a chance
They were given a chance. Young delivered, Januzaj flattered and Mata did enough when it mattered (no poun). We going for it next season so we can't rely on a repeated performance from our attack.
Depay can quite easily take that spot on the left of the 3 too
would be an excellent signing, especially if we sell ADM.
the problem with ADM is his best season came in CM but i dont see him ever suiting the philosophy of a central player as he loses to the ball too often which puts him into the wide forward selection
as far as wide forwards go though Pedro is better imo and with the reinforcements we've made through the centre this year changing ADM for Pedro could do wonders for the squad balance
christ i sound like LVG
the problem with ADM is his best season came in CM but i dont see him ever suiting the philosophy of a central player as he loses to the ball too often which puts him into the wide forward selection
as far as wide forwards go though Pedro is better imo and with the reinforcements we've made through the centre this year changing ADM for Pedro could do wonders for the squad balance
christ i sound like LVG
probably we will go get pedro regardless adm to leave or stay, unless we can get muller which is a very long shot
Id like to see LVG at least try it, with Schneiderlin and Carrick/Bastian providing protection and control in behind, I wouldn't mind seeing Di Maria in a central role again.
How do you think he'd do in the prem, seeing as you watch him all the time compared to just the odd game here and there like most of us? Specifically, at United?
Pedro :-
- Great at running behind defence. Always gives midfielders passing options.
- Accurate dribbler. Doesn't waste dribbling attempts on low percentage one's.
- Accurate passer. Perfect for such a system as ours demands.
- Capable goal scorer. Will contribute goals, definitely.
- Good work-rate. Great at pressing and was part of Pep's famous 'press from front' mentality.
- Tactically intelligent. Makes right choices based on teammate's positions.
There is almost no downside to purchasing Pedro. All I see is an upside.... and let's suppose that he hasn't been great for the past two years, well, that's roughly under the amount of years that Pep has not been at Barca. If you have the right system, he thrives. We're not as fluid as Barca were, but our approach isn't dissimilar. He may not be the individual Di Maria is, but when you examine him as a player and how that plays into how we approach the game...... he stands to contribute more than Di Maria would.
- Great at running behind defence. Always gives midfielders passing options.
- Accurate dribbler. Doesn't waste dribbling attempts on low percentage one's.
- Accurate passer. Perfect for such a system as ours demands.
- Capable goal scorer. Will contribute goals, definitely.
- Good work-rate. Great at pressing and was part of Pep's famous 'press from front' mentality.
- Tactically intelligent. Makes right choices based on teammate's positions.
There is almost no downside to purchasing Pedro. All I see is an upside.... and let's suppose that he hasn't been great for the past two years, well, that's roughly under the amount of years that Pep has not been at Barca. If you have the right system, he thrives. We're not as fluid as Barca were, but our approach isn't dissimilar. He may not be the individual Di Maria is, but when you examine him as a player and how that plays into how we approach the game...... he stands to contribute more than Di Maria would.
He plays from the right normally for Barcelona.
I am not sure about the truth behind this story because the English media was very early on this and they have been pretty awful about us all summer.
Woodward did appear to be briefing them on tour though.
1 - The entire point of playing 433 is for the wingers to cut in
2 - I cannot understand how you and some here are mentioning Lingard. The guy is just a 22 yr old version of Aaron Lennon. Just another english speedster who still hasn't broken through at the age of 22. Yet you chose him above a 3x CL winner, 4329932020x other trophies, high scoring, two footed, experienced Pedro.
Interesting point, while I don't agree that Lingard is just pace because I think he is technically very good but overall I don't think he will make it at United. I also would like to mention Young here as for me even though he did well last season I think it wasn't really a level we need, he gets into great positions but his end product is terrible.
I don't agree that Lingard is an Aaron Lennon. Lennon plays with his head down and doesn't pick passes well; Lingard plays with his head up and picks passes accurately, however, what I agree with is that I wouldn't choose him over someone like Pedro.
He would be a great addition to our squad and especially because we are lacking top winger. Last year we played with a super Ashley Young and a false winger in Mata. I reckon that if we're in for the title, we must have recognized wingers, and Pedro is a very good one.
Please remember all that he was one of the main players who destructed us in 2011 a London in the CL final. So he has plenty of experience even at 27.
He won’t be the mister +, but he will be for sure a wonderful team player. I guess that LVG doesn’t want to repeat the same mistake as Falcao and Di Maria, about big individuality who doesn’t suit the philosophy.
Pedro is weaker than Di Maria individually, but in our team coached by LVG Pedro can be better used, and then provide more.
During a time I said that Nani is far more talented than Pedro, and I still see the case, but talent is not everything, like the level is not everything. A lot of middle + player have great career, and the most important thing is to know if Pedro will be an upgrade to the POOR Di Maria we had last year, my answer is yes.
Please remember all that he was one of the main players who destructed us in 2011 a London in the CL final. So he has plenty of experience even at 27.
He won’t be the mister +, but he will be for sure a wonderful team player. I guess that LVG doesn’t want to repeat the same mistake as Falcao and Di Maria, about big individuality who doesn’t suit the philosophy.
Pedro is weaker than Di Maria individually, but in our team coached by LVG Pedro can be better used, and then provide more.
During a time I said that Nani is far more talented than Pedro, and I still see the case, but talent is not everything, like the level is not everything. A lot of middle + player have great career, and the most important thing is to know if Pedro will be an upgrade to the POOR Di Maria we had last year, my answer is yes.
Pedro was fantastic for Barca last night, I forgot how rapid and intelligent he is. I hope MUFC gets him
Whether he's good enough is a fair question, but that's a horribly inaccurate description of him.
Any videos?
He'll enjoy acres of space, dribble or pass through 99% of the defenses and he'd be playing a not too dissimilar system under LVG. Pedro became a goalscorer under Pep but his best assets were his ability to play out wide on either flank (true 2 footed player) and provide assists
He's skilled, a worker, fearless and a superb professional and teammate.
Praise the Lord. I salute you for seeing sense.
With Liverpool and Chelsea supposedly out of the running, United are free & clear so long as the €30 million clause is met. If Woodward tries to cheap it, Pedro will remain. Lucho underscored that point this am
But he has a punchable face and likes a dive
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