I hope he stays, but it'd be hard to begrudge him playing time. He won't want to be on the bench forever waiting to come on for Messi, Suarez or Neymar nor wait for any of the three up front to get injured.
Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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He's a quality player to have come off the bench - this is why Barca fans would like him to stay.
He would instantly improve our starting 11.
He would instantly improve our starting 11.
It wouldn't really be a downgrade on last year though as Di Maria had very little impact. It's not about how well they played in the past, if Di Maria isn't prepared to give 100% and doesn't want to be here then he will continue to struggle.
That's the impression i got from him last season - looked like he was tryin to play his way out of the club.
I'd still like him to stay & see if he can get his form back though, plus losing nearly £20m on what we paid for him is a frigging joke too.
Falcao's pricetag was £43m for Christ sake (and he'd massive doubts over his fitness) & Cavani has had a £50m+ pricetag for nearly 3 seasons now (surely that should be less now, but its still the same); so bollox to us giving Di Maria away for nearly a 1/3 less of his value in only one year - regardless of us maybe overpaying for him..
quality player
Amazed to see so many people who don't want him. He's a cracking player. Quick, two-footed, intelligent, skillful, a clinical finisher and cheap. What's not to love?
He's a bit of a Muller lite. Not great at anything but decent to good at a lot of things and capable of producing very good numbers.
This is one of the reasons I love LVG. So many managers would have felt pressure to just play a player with that price tag. I mean 12 months ago no one on here would have defended Ashley Young over ADM... no a soul.
Just reinforces you need to perform to earn your place.
That all said I hope we do not need nearly the amount of experimental shuffling we saw last year...
.Back to the topic... is Pedro signed yet
?What's his injury record like? Di Maria and his hamstring seems to be a bit of a crock.
I haven't been following this one - does it actually look like this may be happening?
Fine. Gets the odd injury but no more than any other random player.
No he wasn't just a "good squad player". I have no idea why people are comparing Sanchez and Pedro.
Sanchez was one of the hottest attackers in world football before his transfer to Barcelona. Everyone knew he had immense skill but it just didn't work out for him there. Pedro on the other hand was completely at his level by being a squad player. No one thought he deserved better. Pedro has never been in the same bracket as Sanchez.
Pedro was first choice when barca were at their best.
He wasn't for a long time. I'd always remember him in and out of the team. If anything, this proves my point. Being on the bench or starting does not always signify the quality of the player. Sanchez is a much better player than Pedro and this isn't in hindsight - everyone has held this opinion since his transfer to Barcelona.
Put it this way...I wasn't overly concerned when it looked like he might be going to Chelsea.
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
Sorry but Sanchez is on another level to Pedro.
I thought it would have been an annoyingly good piece of business considering the rumored price.
Haven't followed this at all, until 15 minutes ago seeing the Suarez quotes. Didn't see Pedro last year, but 2/3 years ago, he was incredibly efficient. No matter what he does, he's underrated. Hes that type of player.
In regards to the sanchez/Pedro debate. At barce, Pedro was far more consistent. Sanchez always looked like he would/could develop into something magical.
Pedro I think has found his ceiling, but it is nonetheless very high, but also has a bar he rarely drops below.
In regards to the sanchez/Pedro debate. At barce, Pedro was far more consistent. Sanchez always looked like he would/could develop into something magical.
Pedro I think has found his ceiling, but it is nonetheless very high, but also has a bar he rarely drops below.
Fair enough. Yeah, I think he would be another good, sensible addition to the squad - like all our signings this summer. Not a game changer though
Yes, I didn't care.
I suppose he can be an okay squad addition but he's no match winner on his own.
He can win you games though. People are comparing him to Walcott and Navas, he's a far superior player to them.
But according to Caf geniuses Walcott is better.
If anything, you being wrong about what you said, makes you wrong about what you said.
It doesn't matter what you remember.
Sanchez is better but let's not make stuff up and pretend Pedro is some no mark who was always a barca squad player.
They were about even, and for me Pedro was the more team player. If people think Sanchez was better at Barcelona it is simply not true and it is obfuscated by the breakout season Sanchez just had in the PL and with Chile in Copa America.
Rio's thoughts on the rumour:
I like Pedro a lot. He's not someone who I would instantly pick to sign for us, but he's also not someone I'd be upset about if we signed him. I think he'd be great in the Premiership.
Same. I personally wouldn't be happy with him replacing Di Maria, but generally as an addition to the squad, he'd be a very good one.
Bold part is what I said. Bold part is what I wrote. It makes me write so I don't see what you want to prove??
I agree with Rio Redknapp.
He's good enough for us right now, for sure. If Di Maria is sold and he's brought in, he'll contribute. But paying too much for a 28 year old 5'5 winger is mostly always a bad idea.
On the other hand, we want to win things, we are in a position to do so and if we believe that Pereira and/or Januzaj will become starter quality in 2-3 years then it's not the end of the world to overpay a bit for a guy ready to come in and contribute well immediately until then.
But is Pedro significantly better than Mata, who could do the same? Faster and more comfortable out wide, definitely, but their overall contribution might not be a million miles apart, and unless Mata is going to get serious time as a 10 - and if doing so leaves Herrera out then this is counter-productive anyways - then I'm not sure why we wouldn't just wait a year and buy a winger next summer.
At that point, one of Ronaldo, Reus, Bale, Felipe Anderson, Fekir, Draxler or whoever else either will either become available or in the latter, younger cases, proven themselves a bit more.
Like all intelligent, nippy Spanish AMs or wingers I expect he'd look a bit more creative and impressive in tight spaces in England than people expect, too, and the fact that he's only really finished his 6th season means he should have gas in the tank for the next 2 or 3, but there will be no resale value. He's not going to score 20 goals, but if he gets 30 starts at right wing he'll get 10 and that will help.
On the other hand, we want to win things, we are in a position to do so and if we believe that Pereira and/or Januzaj will become starter quality in 2-3 years then it's not the end of the world to overpay a bit for a guy ready to come in and contribute well immediately until then.
But is Pedro significantly better than Mata, who could do the same? Faster and more comfortable out wide, definitely, but their overall contribution might not be a million miles apart, and unless Mata is going to get serious time as a 10 - and if doing so leaves Herrera out then this is counter-productive anyways - then I'm not sure why we wouldn't just wait a year and buy a winger next summer.
At that point, one of Ronaldo, Reus, Bale, Felipe Anderson, Fekir, Draxler or whoever else either will either become available or in the latter, younger cases, proven themselves a bit more.
Like all intelligent, nippy Spanish AMs or wingers I expect he'd look a bit more creative and impressive in tight spaces in England than people expect, too, and the fact that he's only really finished his 6th season means he should have gas in the tank for the next 2 or 3, but there will be no resale value. He's not going to score 20 goals, but if he gets 30 starts at right wing he'll get 10 and that will help.
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Pedro has been great for barca over the years and him being first choice during some of the their best times does say a lot.
We can agree, disagree, whatever. But many are doing disservice to Pedro by painting him as some sort of Ashely Young of Barcelona. To put things in perspective, Rooney wouldn't start for Barca either, and Sanchez as has been mentioned didn't fit in.
You didn't understand my post. It only proved my point that starting and not starting means nothing. Someone posted that "Sanchez was a Barcelona reject as well" and it was in response to that.
Also, no one on here is doing him any disservice as far as I can tell. If anyone thinks he's in the same league as the likes of Sanchez, Di Maria or Mata they've just never seen Pedro play.
Pedro is a typical Van Gaal player. He's intelligent, quick with his feet and with his mind, and he always puts the team first. His movement is phenomenal and I think he gives us balance with the flair type ball carrier on the opposite flank.
I prefer Marco Reus but he'd probably have been an alternative to Depay, having both may be overkill but I'd have loved us to sign he ad Lewandowski. But at the reported fee, and with his technique, experience in a possession based system, and his general skill set, I'd be happy with Pedro.
I prefer Marco Reus but he'd probably have been an alternative to Depay, having both may be overkill but I'd have loved us to sign he ad Lewandowski. But at the reported fee, and with his technique, experience in a possession based system, and his general skill set, I'd be happy with Pedro.
Vote for Pedro.
Not what I said. I do agree that Sanchez is a better player but I don't think we will be signing Pedro as a guaranteed starter when he is coming at a lower cost and we have Depay and Mata in the side.
I was talking about Sanchez whilst he was at Barca not when he was at Udinese. I do agree that Sanchez is a better player but currently with Barca their description of squad players is different to ours (even though I don't see us signing Pedro as a guaranteed starter).
Well your memory is clearly messed up. Who do you think held the right forward role when messi started playing false nine?
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