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Depay over di Maria.
Brave man to set up a formation Herrera - less on this forum
Haha, I've noticed. He can play in any of the three midfield positions, this is just an example. I think Mata is superior as as #10.
I seen to have missed Woodys comments. Is this from his MUTV interview? If you have a YouTube link or something to it that would be great if you could post or PM.
Just looking at the league stats.
30 goals and 24 assists means Pedro was directly involved in almost 20% of all Barcelona goals over the last 3 years.
So let me get this right, you think Walcott is a better dribbler than Pedro?
Wow, I have never considered contribution value before. Nice.
i would say neither of them is a good dribbler....
Still think this was Woodward throwing the media off the scent for another target, I just don't see his motivation for suddenly telling them who we want to buy, especially when there's a release clause.
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love how Pedro became some class player the minute we "showed interest" in him, even saw someone mentioned he is better then Mata
Wonder if people who want Pedro would also want Walcott, probably not even though they are pretty much the same. Players of system that offer good movement and end product, in all other aspects of the game are bang average. Remove Pedro from Barca and you get average player, or even worse, after the transfer there is a good possibility that Pedro would think how he came from Barca and he is a good player so why would he make sacrificing runs for someone else and we would see him trying to play a normal game which he cant as he is pretty rubbish in everything other then off the ball movement and finishing.
Is that really such a ridiculous claim?
They're the same age, yet Pedro has about 20 more Spain caps and has been much more successful at club level. I'm not arguing for either side, but I just don't think its that a ridiculous a claim as to laugh it off.
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Pedro is better than Mata as a winger in my opinion. His ability to use both feet and his pace to attack gives him an edge over him. Mata is undoubtedly a better number ten than Pedro .
That sounds pretty fair.
numbers and statistics.....Pedro is pretty much unique player so he didnt really had much competition for his place/role while Mata has the likes of Silva, Iniesta and co. in front of himself. Outside of tiki taka system Mata is at least twice the player Pedro is, was or will be.
Me too.
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From Andy Mitten's most recent ESPN FC article:
Valdes' former Barca teammate Pedro could be one of several signings to bolster the Old Trafford Spanish-speaking contingent. His £22 million release clause is not a problem, and United want to sign the winger. Talks for the 27-year-old, who will likely play against United on Saturday, are not advanced, but interest is definite.
For the full spiel: http://www.espnfc.com/club/manchest...er-united-spanish-ander-herrera-victor-valdes
Valdes' former Barca teammate Pedro could be one of several signings to bolster the Old Trafford Spanish-speaking contingent. His £22 million release clause is not a problem, and United want to sign the winger. Talks for the 27-year-old, who will likely play against United on Saturday, are not advanced, but interest is definite.
For the full spiel: http://www.espnfc.com/club/manchest...er-united-spanish-ander-herrera-victor-valdes
The Spain caps thing is a bit of a irrelevant measure though - Mata's competition for Spain has been Iniesta/Silva/even Fabregas. They're stock full of midget playmakers, whereas Spain has always had a lack of good goalscorers, especially with pace (aside from the Torres/Villa golden period).
So Pedro's "competition" for places hasn't been as tough, considering his skillset.
But I agree with your overall point though. Pedro is a tad underrated by good few on here. He's a very good player and goalscorer, and I'd welcome him (especially at that price) in our squad as he'd add much needed pace and threat out wide - and he can also fill in for Rooney if need be.
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I think it's a bit laughable. Mata was the best player of the premier league for some time while Pedro was just a good Barcelona squad player.
Has he ever played through the middle though?
So, we're aiming to be better than Barcelona.... by signing their rejects?
I would be extremely disappointed to see this go through.
I would be extremely disappointed to see this go through.
Sanchez was one of the best players in the Premier league last season, before that he was just a good Barcelona squad player.
I think that says more about Barca to be honest.
If we aspire to be at Barcas level then we should really look beyond their squad players.
Pedro is not at Sanchez' level though. Never was and probably never will be.
Possibly, I'm just going against the argument that signing Barcelona squad players is a bad idea particularly as there is no guarantee that he would rock up and be first choice when we have Depay and Mata in the side.
True, but he's been brought up with possession based football and would, unlike the likes of Di Maria, be able to have an immediate impact as he knows almost exactly what is required from him.
We require a striker first and foremost. Pedro would be an average player going down the middle, we need someone who's equally effective, if not better up front as he is on the flanks.
His arrival will see one of our lovely Spaniards benched
Sanchez is a bit better than Pedro - more explosive, tougher. But not a huge amount I think.
Getting the best out of Pedro might well mean playing football in a certain way - a way that could be very good to watch.
Getting the best out of Pedro might well mean playing football in a certain way - a way that could be very good to watch.
Not if we keep Hernandez. Pedro/Depay as 4th and 5th option as striker we can live with considering the lack of top quality strikers available.
If Rooney gets injured then we're going to be pretty stuffed having Hernandez and Wilson as our only genuine frontmen. Unless Depay ends up being somewhat of a revelation in that CF role.
And a very effective way, I feel that some are too focused on individuals and not enough on team chemistry
He was great for two seasons and was next to messi in terms of goals scored. He got unlucky when Barca decided to sign the likes of Sanchez and Neymar. He is a great finisher though, which is something we need.
It's not ideal no, but none of the English top clubs have great striker cover.
This. He might be very good for our style of play. He has great close control and good tactically. I don’t believe van Gaal wants him because RvP left, it’s Di Maria who he will replace. IMO it’s done.
He was a squad player at Barca? Wasn't it him and villa in wide positions when they were at their absolute peak.
If he comes here the only issue is physicality. If that's not an issue I see him surprising a lot of people here with his ability.
If he comes here the only issue is physicality. If that's not an issue I see him surprising a lot of people here with his ability.
If Pedro is our last attacking signing and we keep Di Maria & Hernandez.. I reckon we have enough to win the league.
Would be a good signing I think, but not at the expense of Di Maria.
Is there room in our squad for both of them? Surely someone will have to make way.
Is there room in our squad for both of them? Surely someone will have to make way.
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