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where will Pedro go?


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Brave man to set up a formation Herrera - less on this forum :nervous:

Haha, I've noticed. He can play in any of the three midfield positions, this is just an example. I think Mata is superior as as #10.
 
He got 6 goals and 9 assists in 44 appearances in 14/15.
16 goals and 8 assists in 44 appearances in 13/14.
8 goals and 7 assists in 38 appearances in 12/13.

That's 30 goals and 24 assists over 122 appearances in three seasons. Bang average numbers when you consider the elite company he was playing with.
Doesn't add anything at all to the team, and would be a terrible buy. Definitely do not want.

Edit: Missed his cup stats. 40 goals and 34 assists over 3 seasons. From 'definitely do not want' to 'maybe no'.

Just looking at the league stats.

30 goals and 24 assists means Pedro was directly involved in almost 20% of all Barcelona goals over the last 3 years.
 
I agree that Pedro looks better but thats because he is able to play specific role that suits him while Theo cant as he doesnt play for Barca.....put Pedro into Arsenal and ask him to beat people and give something more to the team and all of the sudden he wont look so intelligent. He was perfect for Tiki Taka Barcelona, and when i say perfect i really mean it, there is maybe only 2, 3 players in the world that i would put in front of him in that team. But outside that system he would be pretty much useless, he even struggles in new Barca style and they are still playing much closer to tiki taka then anybody else.

So let me get this right, you think Walcott is a better dribbler than Pedro?
 
Just looking at the league stats.

30 goals and 24 assists means Pedro was directly involved in almost 20% of all Barcelona goals over the last 3 years.
Wow, I have never considered contribution value before. Nice.
 
Still think this was Woodward throwing the media off the scent for another target, I just don't see his motivation for suddenly telling them who we want to buy, especially when there's a release clause.
 
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love how Pedro became some class player the minute we "showed interest" in him, even saw someone mentioned he is better then Mata :lol:
Wonder if people who want Pedro would also want Walcott, probably not even though they are pretty much the same. Players of system that offer good movement and end product, in all other aspects of the game are bang average. Remove Pedro from Barca and you get average player, or even worse, after the transfer there is a good possibility that Pedro would think how he came from Barca and he is a good player so why would he make sacrificing runs for someone else and we would see him trying to play a normal game which he cant as he is pretty rubbish in everything other then off the ball movement and finishing.

Is that really such a ridiculous claim?

They're the same age, yet Pedro has about 20 more Spain caps and has been much more successful at club level. I'm not arguing for either side, but I just don't think its that a ridiculous a claim as to laugh it off.
 
We need to start moving on from him, he is crucial yes but only because we had nobody else that could do his job in our whole squad that's why we missed him so much when he was injured, we didn't have a player that could take a game and put it firmly in his control but now though we have Schneiderlin who's basically a younger carrick and shares all the same attributes as carrick.

With our large number of games I think they'll all get a good run out though but in the majority of games inwould prefer us to have Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin starting them.

Seriously?

Fair enough.
 
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Is that really such a ridiculous claim?

They're the same age, yet Pedro has about 20 more Spain caps and has been much more successful at club level. I'm not arguing for either side, but I just don't think its that a ridiculous a claim as to laugh it off.
Pedro is better than Mata as a winger in my opinion. His ability to use both feet and his pace to attack gives him an edge over him. Mata is undoubtedly a better number ten than Pedro .
 
Pedro is better than Mata as a winger in my opinion. His ability to use both feet and his pace to attack gives him an edge over him. Mata is undoubtedly a better number ten than Pedro .

That sounds pretty fair.
 
Is that really such a ridiculous claim?

They're the same age, yet Pedro has about 20 more Spain caps and has been much more successful at club level. I'm not arguing for either side, but I just don't think its that a ridiculous a claim as to laugh it off.

numbers and statistics.....Pedro is pretty much unique player so he didnt really had much competition for his place/role while Mata has the likes of Silva, Iniesta and co. in front of himself. Outside of tiki taka system Mata is at least twice the player Pedro is, was or will be.
 
From Andy Mitten's most recent ESPN FC article:

Valdes' former Barca teammate Pedro could be one of several signings to bolster the Old Trafford Spanish-speaking contingent. His £22 million release clause is not a problem, and United want to sign the winger. Talks for the 27-year-old, who will likely play against United on Saturday, are not advanced, but interest is definite.

For the full spiel: http://www.espnfc.com/club/manchest...er-united-spanish-ander-herrera-victor-valdes
 
Is that really such a ridiculous claim?

They're the same age, yet Pedro has about 20 more Spain caps and has been much more successful at club level. I'm not arguing for either side, but I just don't think its that a ridiculous a claim as to laugh it off.
The Spain caps thing is a bit of a irrelevant measure though - Mata's competition for Spain has been Iniesta/Silva/even Fabregas. They're stock full of midget playmakers, whereas Spain has always had a lack of good goalscorers, especially with pace (aside from the Torres/Villa golden period).

So Pedro's "competition" for places hasn't been as tough, considering his skillset.

But I agree with your overall point though. Pedro is a tad underrated by good few on here. He's a very good player and goalscorer, and I'd welcome him (especially at that price) in our squad as he'd add much needed pace and threat out wide - and he can also fill in for Rooney if need be.
 
Is that really such a ridiculous claim?

They're the same age, yet Pedro has about 20 more Spain caps and has been much more successful at club level. I'm not arguing for either side, but I just don't think its that a ridiculous a claim as to laugh it off.


I think it's a bit laughable. Mata was the best player of the premier league for some time while Pedro was just a good Barcelona squad player.
 
So, we're aiming to be better than Barcelona.... by signing their rejects? :lol:

I would be extremely disappointed to see this go through.
 
I think it's a bit laughable. Mata was the best player of the premier league for some time while Pedro was just a good Barcelona squad player.

Sanchez was one of the best players in the Premier league last season, before that he was just a good Barcelona squad player.

I think that says more about Barca to be honest.
 
Sanchez was one of the best players in the Premier league last season, before that he was just a good Barcelona squad player.

I think that says more about Barca to be honest.

Pedro is not at Sanchez' level though. Never was and probably never will be.
 
Pedro is not at Sanchez' level though. Never was and probably never will be.

Possibly, I'm just going against the argument that signing Barcelona squad players is a bad idea particularly as there is no guarantee that he would rock up and be first choice when we have Depay and Mata in the side.
 
Pedro is not at Sanchez' level though. Never was and probably never will be.
True, but he's been brought up with possession based football and would, unlike the likes of Di Maria, be able to have an immediate impact as he knows almost exactly what is required from him.
 
True, but he's been brought up with possession based football, and would unlike the likes of Di Maria be able to have an immediate impact as he knows almost exactly what is required from him.

We require a striker first and foremost. Pedro would be an average player going down the middle, we need someone who's equally effective, if not better up front as he is on the flanks.
 
Sanchez is a bit better than Pedro - more explosive, tougher. But not a huge amount I think.

Getting the best out of Pedro might well mean playing football in a certain way - a way that could be very good to watch.
 
We require a striker first and foremost. Pedro would be an average player going down the middle, we need someone who's equally effective, if not better up front as he is on the flanks.
Not if we keep Hernandez. Pedro/Depay as 4th and 5th option as striker we can live with considering the lack of top quality strikers available.
 
Not if we keep Hernandez. Pedro/Depay as 4th and 5th option as striker we can live with considering the lack of top quality strikers available.

If Rooney gets injured then we're going to be pretty stuffed having Hernandez and Wilson as our only genuine frontmen. Unless Depay ends up being somewhat of a revelation in that CF role.
 
Sanchez is a bit better than Pedro - more explosive, tougher. But not a huge amount I think.

Getting the best out of Pedro might well mean playing football in a certain way - a way that could be very good to watch.

And a very effective way, I feel that some are too focused on individuals and not enough on team chemistry
 
He was great for two seasons and was next to messi in terms of goals scored. He got unlucky when Barca decided to sign the likes of Sanchez and Neymar. He is a great finisher though, which is something we need.
 
If Rooney gets injured then we're going to be pretty stuffed having Hernandez and Wilson as our only genuine frontmen. Unless Depay ends up being somewhat of a revelation in that CF role.
It's not ideal no, but none of the English top clubs have great striker cover.
 
True, but he's been brought up with possession based football and would, unlike the likes of Di Maria, be able to have an immediate impact as he knows almost exactly what is required from him.

Sanchez is a bit better than Pedro - more explosive, tougher. But not a huge amount I think.
Getting the best out of Pedro might well mean playing football in a certain way - a way that could be very good to watch.
This. He might be very good for our style of play. He has great close control and good tactically. I don’t believe van Gaal wants him because RvP left, it’s Di Maria who he will replace. IMO it’s done.
 
He was a squad player at Barca? Wasn't it him and villa in wide positions when they were at their absolute peak.

If he comes here the only issue is physicality. If that's not an issue I see him surprising a lot of people here with his ability.
 
If Pedro is our last attacking signing and we keep Di Maria & Hernandez.. I reckon we have enough to win the league.
 
Would be a good signing I think, but not at the expense of Di Maria.

Is there room in our squad for both of them? Surely someone will have to make way.
 
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