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So thats what this philosophy talk was referring to. Very cunning.
I think if Mata is to be at his best then LvG is going to have to pit him and Herrera against each other for that AM spot in midfield, playing him on the right makes it too easy to isolate him and he ends up drifting centrally anyway, I think that is why LvG complimented Lingard on keeping the width.
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Maybe the idea is that Pedro is small enough for noone to notice we're playing with 12.
Man City did it for quite a while with Shaun Wright-Phillips - they regularly had 12 players but noone noticed, though this was in large part down to the fact that Wright-Phillips was a bit sh*t.
Think Pedro would certainly suit the way we want to play. As a winger, he has very clever movement, and likes to make those darting runs in behind the full back and centre back, hence why he gets so much goals from the wing. He would add more goals to our front line and take a bit of pressure of Rooney.
Like when he wasn't in for Willian or Cuadrado? I wouldn't trust that man with my worst enemy in football!
So, it looks like Pedro will become our 5th signing of the summer - another quality addition, who can play across the front three.
Ha, I don't trust him either. I hope he's being sincere however because I want to sign Pedro.Like when he wasn't in for Willian or Cuadrado? I wouldn't trust that man with my worst enemy in football!
Pedro would be class.
Carrick - Morgan
Mata
Pedro - Rooney - di Maria
Mata
Pedro - Rooney - di Maria
If I were to pick our team, I'd have Mata in the hole behind Rooney. Easy.
But I ain't Van Gaal. And in all likelihood that's a bloody good thing - for both United, Van Gaal, and ultimately for myself (because in all honesty I don't fancy being an old Dutch nutter who gets his kicks flashing his goolies to the boys).
He's not world class but he doesn't have to be for £22m. If we can get a versatile forward who can get back to anywhere near the level he was at in 2011 then it would be enough.
I spoke to my Barcelona supporting mate today though and he told me he has been terrible for them for the past two years and he prays that he leaves them.
I spoke to my Barcelona supporting mate today though and he told me he has been terrible for them for the past two years and he prays that he leaves them.
Is there anything in this then?
Wouldn't mind him playing for United he's only 27 I thought he was much older. For the reported fee it'll be a decent bit of business.
Wouldn't mind him playing for United he's only 27 I thought he was much older. For the reported fee it'll be a decent bit of business.
Yet you would have us sign him for 22 million... feck him right off.
If Pedro comes I can imagine it'll be because Di Maria is going, meaning it'll look something like:
Schneiderlin - Carrick
Mata
Pedro - Rooney - Depay
Mata
Pedro - Rooney - Depay
No schweinsteiger?
Pretty sure schweinsteiger will be one of the first players in every squad we put out. If anything it's time for Carrick to play a bit part role now.
I think the three of them will be rotated quite a bit (as if they'll all be fit at any one time!).
There's also a major Herrera shaped whole in that line-up.
Still bagged 30 goals in those two seasons.
Based on what? I mean, we all saw how crucial he was last season, and I can imagine he'll remain that way.
Not to take anything away from him, but how impressive is that? For a team that scores 4 or 5 a week with Messi & co supplying, you'd expect attackers to record high numbers. That's my only reservation really.
I've not seen him much for the last couple of years except when he came on in one CL game last year and looked rusty. Might have been due to lack of game time though.
Hope this transfer will never happen.
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love how Pedro became some class player the minute we "showed interest" in him, even saw someone mentioned he is better then Mata
Wonder if people who want Pedro would also want Walcott, probably not even though they are pretty much the same. Players of system that offer good movement and end product, in all other aspects of the game are bang average. Remove Pedro from Barca and you get average player, or even worse, after the transfer there is a good possibility that Pedro would think how he came from Barca and he is a good player so why would he make sacrificing runs for someone else and we would see him trying to play a normal game which he cant as he is pretty rubbish in everything other then off the ball movement and finishing.
He also hated Sanchez the season before last. Arsenal have no regrets.
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love how Pedro became some class player the minute we "showed interest" in him, even saw someone mentioned he is better then Mata
Wonder if people who want Pedro would also want Walcott, probably not even though they are pretty much the same. Players of system that offer good movement and end product, in all other aspects of the game are bang average. Remove Pedro from Barca and you get average player, or even worse, after the transfer there is a good possibility that Pedro would think how he came from Barca and he is a good player so why would he make sacrificing runs for someone else and we would see him trying to play a normal game which he cant as he is pretty rubbish in everything other then off the ball movement and finishing.
I'm not a big enough expert in Pedro or Spanish football to confirm or deny your assessment there. What I will say is that the two characteristics of his game you've described there are two areas we struggled badly in last season. That's why I wouldn't be against us pursuing this.
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love how Pedro became some class player the minute we "showed interest" in him, even saw someone mentioned he is better then Mata
Wonder if people who want Pedro would also want Walcott, probably not even though they are pretty much the same. Players of system that offer good movement and end product, in all other aspects of the game are bang average. Remove Pedro from Barca and you get average player, or even worse, after the transfer there is a good possibility that Pedro would think how he came from Barca and he is a good player so why would he make sacrificing runs for someone else and we would see him trying to play a normal game which he cant as he is pretty rubbish in everything other then off the ball movement and finishing.
He disappeared since 2011, and Barça wants to offload him
There are many players better than him + we have Pereira, Januzaj and Lindgard in the same position.
its not that simple, we are missing goalscorers so lets just put a finisher up front and we are sorted....we cant create shit and if we put Pedro in place Mata i guess we are going to play even worse. We already bought a goalscoring winger in Depay so i dont see the point of getting another one.
He got 6 goals and 9 assists in 44 appearances in 14/15.
16 goals and 8 assists in 44 appearances in 13/14.
8 goals and 7 assists in 38 appearances in 12/13.
That's 30 goals and 24 assists over 122 appearances in three seasons. Bang average numbers when you consider the elite company he was playing with.
Doesn't add anything at all to the team, and would be a terrible buy. Definitely do not want.
Edit: Missed his cup stats. 40 goals and 34 assists over 3 seasons. From 'definitely do not want' to 'maybe no'.
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I'm not too sure about him, was an excellent player in Pep's Barca side, but has seemed to tail off since then. Somewhat of a gamble if you ask me. He seems to be a player suited to certain systems.
11 9 in 14/15
19 13 in 13/14
10 12 in 12/13
You're missing his cup goals.
19 13 in 13/14
10 12 in 12/13
You're missing his cup goals.
I am, my bad.
40 goals, and 34 assists in three seasons. Those are much better looking numbers, but again he was feeding Messi and being assisted by the likes of Iniesta and Neymar, so you would take those numbers with a pinch of salt.
Does swing my opinion into the neutral zone, though. Those are, after all, better numbers than Mata, Young and Valencia put together, and since I haven't watched him play, numbers are the only thing I can go by.
That's about where I am... hard to get that all that excited, but at the same time he could well be a useful player.
Use minutes instead of appearances. It is very misleading to use appearances .
We need to start moving on from him, he is crucial yes but only because we had nobody else that could do his job in our whole squad that's why we missed him so much when he was injured, we didn't have a player that could take a game and put it firmly in his control but now though we have Schneiderlin who's basically a younger carrick and shares all the same attributes as carrick.
With our large number of games I think they'll all get a good run out though but in the majority of games inwould prefer us to have Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin starting them.
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love how Pedro became some class player the minute we "showed interest" in him, even saw someone mentioned he is better then Mata
Wonder if people who want Pedro would also want Walcott, probably not even though they are pretty much the same. Players of system that offer good movement and end product, in all other aspects of the game are bang average. Remove Pedro from Barca and you get average player, or even worse, after the transfer there is a good possibility that Pedro would think how he came from Barca and he is a good player so why would he make sacrificing runs for someone else and we would see him trying to play a normal game which he cant as he is pretty rubbish in everything other then off the ball movement and finishing.
Very harsh on Pedro, Walcott is a pacy player who strikes a good ball - Pedro is an intelligent player with far superior vision.
I agree that Pedro looks better but thats because he is able to play specific role that suits him while Theo cant as he doesnt play for Barca.....put Pedro into Arsenal and ask him to beat people and give something more to the team and all of the sudden he wont look so intelligent. He was perfect for Tiki Taka Barcelona, and when i say perfect i really mean it, there is maybe only 2, 3 players in the world that i would put in front of him in that team. But outside that system he would be pretty much useless, he even struggles in new Barca style and they are still playing much closer to tiki taka then anybody else.
This season in 22 (approx) full games Pedro had 11 goals and 9 assists
Last season Pedro had 16 goals and 8 in 30 full games (31 apps)
In 12/13 Pedro had 8 goals and 7 assists in approx 33 full games (33 apps)
He put up really good numbers for two seasons then was decent for 12/13.
Full game= 90 min game
note= I only included league and champions league numbers for 13/14 and 12/13 season. His champions league numbers have been relatively poor in 13/14 and 12/13.
Last season Pedro had 16 goals and 8 in 30 full games (31 apps)
In 12/13 Pedro had 8 goals and 7 assists in approx 33 full games (33 apps)
He put up really good numbers for two seasons then was decent for 12/13.
Full game= 90 min game
note= I only included league and champions league numbers for 13/14 and 12/13 season. His champions league numbers have been relatively poor in 13/14 and 12/13.
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