More rounded/talented/higher potential to what Pedro's best was... Not necessarily better right now.
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So, Pedro is a fantastic but not very good dribbler. A brilliant and creative, but not very good passer. Has great skills which he uses to beat a man, but can only kick and run. Has a great first touch, but is also very average. And can play anywhere up top, but might not actually be able to play upfront.
Well...I'm glad we cleared that one up.
Well...I'm glad we cleared that one up.
Man this thread is just flat out weird, I can't help but feel the looming cloud of losing Di Maria is furthering some of the "Don't want" stuff, not to mention those worried that Mata will lose his spot.
Pedro isn't a world beater but he has been a big part of the most successful club side of the last decade, and manged to get a very good goal scoring record in a team that has boasted names such as Messi, Ibra, Villa, Sanchez, Neymar and Suarez in that time. We are going to play 4-3-3 and he'd be an upgrade to the right side of that formation IMO.
Pedro isn't a world beater but he has been a big part of the most successful club side of the last decade, and manged to get a very good goal scoring record in a team that has boasted names such as Messi, Ibra, Villa, Sanchez, Neymar and Suarez in that time. We are going to play 4-3-3 and he'd be an upgrade to the right side of that formation IMO.
I think that is great to open games,bring stamina and speed ,he also can be the link between a solid but slow CM and the attack when Rooney,Depay are isolated .In Spain when the team can not find spaces inmediately everybody thinks in him or Navas to look for something different.
Pedro would be a quality addition, but not quite sure where to fit him if van Gaal wants 2 quality players per position on our front 3.
LW: Pedro, Young, Memphis, Di Maria, Januzaj
ST: Rooney, Memphis?, Hernandez?, Wilson?, new signing?
RW: Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj, Pedro
Looks a bit overkill unless someone is leaving. I don't think PSG can afford Di Maria or that Bayern will change their policy and spend a fortune on 1 player (their transfer record fee is 40m Euro).
LW: Pedro, Young, Memphis, Di Maria, Januzaj
ST: Rooney, Memphis?, Hernandez?, Wilson?, new signing?
RW: Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj, Pedro
Looks a bit overkill unless someone is leaving. I don't think PSG can afford Di Maria or that Bayern will change their policy and spend a fortune on 1 player (their transfer record fee is 40m Euro).
F*ck Pedro - he's shit. That's according to our Chief Nou Camp / Camp Nou / Camping Nude / Nude Camping, scouts on here.
"Robostriker" is where it's at bro - we discussed this. The wheels are in motion. Will Keane's just been bundled into a white Hiace Van & is enroute to the secure "facility"..
It's not that, but I feel like we are well stocked and would rather let others get a chance.. But at the same time I'm not against the signing as he would improve us and give us something different. I think januzaj will have a good season though, so we probably won't need another wide player. Memphis, Young, Mata, Januzaj, Di maria if he stays, Pereira getting the odd game as well is more then enough.
I'm hoping Scarlett Johansson it was one of our nude scouts.
Have we got the big white sheet to cover the workspace at Carrington where the scientists will build him?
The thing is I don't think Mata is a good fit out there, he's a talented player but just lacks pace which is not ideal when our #9 isn't all that quick either. Logically we should flank Rooney with pace, Memphis, Di Maria and Pedro would give us three prime options with Ashley Young as a fallback. Januzaj is not really a wide forward, he has barely scored any goals and isn't quick enough off the mark, while Pereira is really an AM, not a wide forward, I'd say both would be looking more at cup games or in Adnan's case maybe even a loan.
Well lets break it down;
Memphis/Young - Rooney/Hernandez - Pedro/Di Maria
That looks pretty good to me and Pedro and Di Maria can play either side as well which is handy. Then Mata can compete for the AM spot with Herrera. Januzaj could go on loan or we could see more ruthlessness and the 30 year old Young will be sold and Adnan can take his place as one of the 4 wide forward options.
In other words you have followed Depay close or generally you both follow Eredivisie?
And you know it from several games that you watched of Depay, or you intensively follow his game? I find it hard to believe.
And for Pedro not being a dribbler is kinda comical statement to be fair.
Getting Pedro and keeping Hernandez aswell as keeping hold of Wilson and Adnan in our squad would give us strong attacking options, alongside brilliant midfield options.
The only line of thinking I can think of is
1) Di Maria is off, and Pedro will be his replacement
2) Pedro would be the 'new striker'. That way he could provide competition/backup/rotation for Rooney, while also getting games on either wing to keep him happy.
Or of course..
3) We're not really interested and its all media nonsense (
)Pedro, much likes Fabregas, has literally won everything there is to win for club and country, and is now getting squeezed out of minutes at Barca by the likes of Suarez. Pretty sure he will move at some point, if for no other reason, than to play regular football. Mourinho's and LvG's alleged interest suggest they both rate him. Question is, where does he wind up ?
I'm hoping Scarlett Johansson it was one of our nude scouts.
Have we got the big white sheet to cover the workspace at Carrington where the scientists will build him?
Faw kinell man - it's like me replyin to myself with you. Ohhhhhh Scarlett.. she's a proper hunny, if ever there was one
I would probably just cuddle her all night & then go full hardcore porn-star with her in the morning - it would be rude not to.
Nah man - the lab is in a secret location - you not get the memo?
We're approximately 35 mins away - so say's the Scarlett voiced Sat Nav & then we have a boat waiting.
F*ckin chloroform's wearing off on Will though & i've used it all up, so i'm gonna pull up some vids on the laptop of Pedro's highlights & that should put the f*cker back to sleep with boredom.
It's all good man. Lab is state of the art & in a secluded location on an pretend oil rig (Ed's idea - thinks he's a Bond villain ffs).
"Robostriker" will be ready for the new season. We just need 2 CB's, that useless f*cker Pedro & we're ready to clean up bro
He's nimble & dodge's tackles - one step ahead type of thing, so i dont see that being a problem Mr. Moth Lover
Not to mention, he's played against teams from all over the world & opposition players would most likely have tried to nail him. He'd be accustomed to tough opponents imo..
Yeah quite possibly. Not sure he'd get the same protection here though. Quite torn over this potential transfer to be honest.
No chance of Premiership pundits and fans underrating a diminutive Liga player, I mean that never happens
In theory, Pedro would start for any Premier League side. We don't know how he'll adapt to the league, though, which is why there are questions over him. Will he be like Sanchez, or more like Di Maria? I tend to think Di Maria because Sanchez has always had a physicality to him that I don't think Pedo has.
You dont have to be physical though. Pedro is direct and will score some goals for sure
The fact that some Barca fans want Munir/Sandro to takeover his role said it all.Let's sign a proper striker.
This definitely isn't true of this forum. Most on here were definitely keen on the idea of getting Alexis and disappointed when it didn't happen (we hadn't signed Di Maria yet).
I'm not overly enthusiastic about getting Pedro simply because I'd rather any combination of Januzaj, Pereira, Lingard get his minutes or even keeping Di Maria. I think we've sprinkled some more experience through the squad but I think it's necessary to keep it fresh with young players too.
It does say it all, about fans who know little about the club - especially considering neither Munir nor Sandro are wide players
Pedro for 22mil is worth a punt. He's quick, presses hard when defending, passes and shoots very well, wtih plenty of experience competing for and winning trophies. He has all the qualities LvG seems to want in a wide attacking player.
Yes he's not the biggest of players, but Hazard, Silva all seem be doing just fine. There's no such thing as a sure thing in football anyway,
Yes he's not the biggest of players, but Hazard, Silva all seem be doing just fine. There's no such thing as a sure thing in football anyway,
From Sky:
Rooney is quicker off the ball than people give him credit for.
Anyway, I hope Mata's lack of pace will be less important when the system starts working properly (with a proper midfield in place, not least). He looks out of place when he has to cover too much ground, but he isn't so slow that he can't play in a wide-ish role with the right personnel surrounding him.
Is this another case of our "second" or even "third" choice as Woodward talked about. With maybe Bale and/or Reus preferred options?
Goals from both wings (Memphis and Pedro/Mata) will be crucial to make the 433 to work the way LvG wants it to work.
I'm fully in support of this signing. Just unhappy that its possibly going to mean the end of Di Maria.
Why can't PSG afford him? Of course they can. Once they accept they'll have to pay whatever we want then they can and probably will.
I do think Pedro is being touted as a replacement for ADM leaving. I mean until ADM to PSG rumors started getting traction this was not really on the radar. So a couple points...
1) This guy has started WC finals and CL finals on arguably one of the greatest club teams ever and an excellent national team. I find the flak he is getting here a bit head scratching. I myself struggle to think of many sides he would not walk into one of the winger positions as a starter. So if you do not think he is all that, fair enough, but lets not pretend this guy is a substitute for Southhampton or Spurs here.
2) LVG likes versatile players. This guy can play anywhere up top. In fact I really like Pedro's match intelligence.
3) Technique... It is funny every time we play arsenal all I see in the match day thread is how clumsy we look on the ball, and here is a guy who plays for Barcelona and yet for some reason we are not drooling over his skills. Barcelona has a long track record of not bedding certain players. Why should we complain if it benefits us?
3) We want 2 players per position. This again is based off ADM leaving but honestly I think we could use this guy...
-------Schweinsteiger/Carrick---- Schneiderlin/Fellaini--------
Pedro/(Januzaj or Pierera)--Herrera/Mata------- Young/Depay
----------------------Rooney/Wilson--------------------------
Honestly that really just leaves Januzaj or Pierera needing to be loaned out.
1) This guy has started WC finals and CL finals on arguably one of the greatest club teams ever and an excellent national team. I find the flak he is getting here a bit head scratching. I myself struggle to think of many sides he would not walk into one of the winger positions as a starter. So if you do not think he is all that, fair enough, but lets not pretend this guy is a substitute for Southhampton or Spurs here.
2) LVG likes versatile players. This guy can play anywhere up top. In fact I really like Pedro's match intelligence.
3) Technique... It is funny every time we play arsenal all I see in the match day thread is how clumsy we look on the ball, and here is a guy who plays for Barcelona and yet for some reason we are not drooling over his skills. Barcelona has a long track record of not bedding certain players. Why should we complain if it benefits us?
3) We want 2 players per position. This again is based off ADM leaving but honestly I think we could use this guy...
-------Schweinsteiger/Carrick---- Schneiderlin/Fellaini--------
Pedro/(Januzaj or Pierera)--Herrera/Mata------- Young/Depay
----------------------Rooney/Wilson--------------------------
Honestly that really just leaves Januzaj or Pierera needing to be loaned out.
Wanted to stop reading this thread when someone mentioned he is not a good dribbler despite seeing all his games.. what were you watching then?
Pedro has more tricks in his locker when running past players than a Sanchez who is more old school and uses body feints, close control and pure pace. One v one he is one of the best dribblers in the modern game.. very unpredictable and can dribble using either foot.
One advantage he has compared to Di Maria is that his passing is much better in terms of possession play so he wouldn't get caught on the ball as often and less likely to get bullied. He is not as creative as ADM but he is much more dangerous in front of goal... someone said he's just a finisher and doesn't get involved with build up.. utter BS, he gets involved with that side of things just fine, very hard working player who contributes to all facets of the game.
He would be like our Jesus Navas but better in my opinion. A regular starter on the RW for us. He would be much more useful than Januzaj and Mata.
Pedro has more tricks in his locker when running past players than a Sanchez who is more old school and uses body feints, close control and pure pace. One v one he is one of the best dribblers in the modern game.. very unpredictable and can dribble using either foot.
One advantage he has compared to Di Maria is that his passing is much better in terms of possession play so he wouldn't get caught on the ball as often and less likely to get bullied. He is not as creative as ADM but he is much more dangerous in front of goal... someone said he's just a finisher and doesn't get involved with build up.. utter BS, he gets involved with that side of things just fine, very hard working player who contributes to all facets of the game.
He would be like our Jesus Navas but better in my opinion. A regular starter on the RW for us. He would be much more useful than Januzaj and Mata.
good post Rob
Pedro is a good passer, he is a good dribbler, he isn't devoid of creativity but don't expect him to take the ball and dribble, because there is always a useful pass that he will chose, there is always a clever run that he will run, therefore he is rarely in a dribbling context, he is rarely trying a complicated pass, he keeps things simple but very effective and direct.
I don't really see why Pedro's potential signing means the end of di Maria. I guess a lot depends on Mata. If he is switched to that attacking mid role, there is space for
AM: Herrera/Mata
RW: di Maria/Pedro
LW: Memphis/Young
ST: Rooney
Then Januzaj/Periera can come into any of those positions, so will each still get plenty of games.
AM: Herrera/Mata
RW: di Maria/Pedro
LW: Memphis/Young
ST: Rooney
Then Januzaj/Periera can come into any of those positions, so will each still get plenty of games.
Pierera = Perreira and
Why do you think that was?? Almost like Journalists can add..
Pedro is probably the most perfect forward signing after bale, given that we are going 4-3-3 and rooney as the cf next season. We need 2 of our wing forwards to get at least 10-15 goals.
If rooney fails to get 20-25 goals only then i think van gaal is going to get a world class cf like lewadowski next summer, which means rooney's position in the team is in big danger.
As much as i want ADM to stay, i just don't think he will get enough goals. Want him to stay as he is an excellent player with a lot of assists in him but if we get a wing forward this summer that could spell the end of his united career though.
My perfect scenario is having rooney as the cf with chicharito and wilson back up. Memphis, ADM, young and someone like pedro for the 2 wing forwards position.
If rooney fails to get 20-25 goals only then i think van gaal is going to get a world class cf like lewadowski next summer, which means rooney's position in the team is in big danger.
As much as i want ADM to stay, i just don't think he will get enough goals. Want him to stay as he is an excellent player with a lot of assists in him but if we get a wing forward this summer that could spell the end of his united career though.
My perfect scenario is having rooney as the cf with chicharito and wilson back up. Memphis, ADM, young and someone like pedro for the 2 wing forwards position.
Can someone point out precisely why it is people assume the Pedro interest was something Woody briefed the press about?
And furthermore, if he did so - is there any upside to doing this if we're actually in for him?
EDIT Genuine questions - I'm not saying it's bollocks.
And furthermore, if he did so - is there any upside to doing this if we're actually in for him?
EDIT Genuine questions - I'm not saying it's bollocks.
I think its because Woody was pictured with some of the press in the US, hours later they all pretty much ran the same story about Pedro, hence the assumption Woody had been briefing
If we are in for him I assume the intent/upside is to get some movement from the player/agent. i.e. we have offered Barca £22M for him and they have said no we want £25M as the player doesn't care about a move. If he gets a firmer sign of our intent he may go to the club and say please accept it, I will forgo x and y bonuses things like that
If we are not in for him and another club/target we are interested in are playing hardball it makes it look like we will move onto another target maybe hurrying them up
Been reading this thread for a while, astounded that people do not rate him on here, he looks immense
Sounds like when George Best summed up Beckham. What did he say?
"He can't shoot, he can't dribble, he can't run, he can't scores but otherwise he is good"
Edit: Actual quote:
"He cannot kick with his left foot, he cannot head a ball, he cannot tackle and he doesn't score many goals. Apart from that he's all right."
I have not seen Pedro play other than watching him on Youtube. After reading 17 pages of his thread... I am not sure if i know anymore about pedro!
he is shite but he is fecking brillant.
he is shite but he is fecking brillant.
He can cover for Rooney down the middle, can cover on the wings, has flair, won't cost much, good finisher, very creative....no brainer. Would be chuffed if this came off.
We should also keep Hernandez and if Rooney can't stay fit or score a lot of goals, we will buy a top class CF next Summer. This season, Pedro is only the second best option to Bale in terms of the attacking player that fits what we need.
We should also keep Hernandez and if Rooney can't stay fit or score a lot of goals, we will buy a top class CF next Summer. This season, Pedro is only the second best option to Bale in terms of the attacking player that fits what we need.
Any new info on this regarding us? I read that Mourinho mentioned he's not in for Pedro.
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