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Its weird how some people say he's a great dribbler, and others say he's not very good.
He sure looks good in that video
He sure looks good in that video
Its weird how some people say he's a great dribbler, and others say he's not very good.
He sure looks good in that video
I think unfortunately for Pedro its easy to look a bit average when your teammates are the likes of Messi, Suarez and Neymar. But when you look at him individually he's good technically and talented himself in his own right
He's not a great dribbler or a great passer, and I've seen near enough every game he's played since he broke through at Barça.
His passing isn't bad, it's just solid more than actually being good or creative. There's no risk taken.
His dribbling is pretty ropey - he doesn't take players on very often but his close control isn't the best at times. Good at knocking it last players though.
Never get tired of watching his reels. The guy is just superb & so unselfish too. I'd be thrilled if we signed him - he'd light up OT.
If he doesnt sign for us - then obviously he's shit, past it & we dodged a bullet of course..
@Ekeke you might be able to answer my earlier question as you watch a lot of Spanish football, but could Pedro play that central striker role if Rooney were to get injured? Has he ever played it for Barca?
I probably dont see Barcelona as lots of other people on here, as valencia are on at the same time or i dont feel like watching another match after them etc. So not really my speciality. I cant imagine he's played the false 9 more than a handful of times as Barcelona have always had strikers who would like to play there, but Messi is taking the role. So when he's not available it'll tend to be them going into the role
Highlights dont show much but it does happen to show dribbling and "risky" passes.
Saying pedro isn't good at dribbling and passing is just pure bs. Regardless of the fact that he averages nearly the same amount of passing % succes rate and keypasses to Iniesta last year. But ofc Iniesta isn't good at passing also.
Excuse my English.
I'm not watching a 10 minute video of a players "skills" when I've already watched all his games. Watched about a quarter of that and there was nothing substantial.
If you think a highlights reel is proof of anything then it's no wonder you think Pedro is a great dribbler/passer - every player is going to have moments over an entire season. It's about how often you make good passes or complete good dribbles and Pedro doesn't show it very often. Like I said, he can beat a man but it's with raw pace like Bale rather than actual dribbling. Pushing the ball past someone isn't dribbling.
I'm not watching a 10 minute video of a players "skills" when I've already watched all his games. Watched about a quarter of that and there was nothing substantial.
If you think a highlights reel is proof of anything then it's no wonder you think Pedro is a great dribbler/passer - every player is going to have moments over an entire season. It's about how often you make good passes or complete good dribbles and Pedro doesn't show it very often. Like I said, he can beat a man but it's with raw pace like Bale rather than actual dribbling. Pushing the ball past someone isn't dribbling.
No doubting hes a class act and far better than how people on here rate him, but i wonder about how well he would cope physically...
Nothing more then an assumption until you can provide the statistics to prove your case.
I'm with you here... He's a decent player for sure, and is a pretty good goalscorer from out wide, but if people are thinking he's going to provide creativity and dribble past players at United, then they have the wrong idea of him completely. He's a player who relies on his movement and once he's through on goal you can rely on him to finish it, and he's a relatively hard worker, but that's about it.I'm not watching a 10 minute video of a players "skills" when I've already watched all his games. Watched about a quarter of that and there was nothing substantial.
If you think a highlights reel is proof of anything then it's no wonder you think Pedro is a great dribbler/passer - every player is going to have moments over an entire season. It's about how often you make good passes or complete good dribbles and Pedro doesn't show it very often. Like I said, he can beat a man but it's with raw pace like Bale rather than actual dribbling. Pushing the ball past someone isn't dribbling.
I'm not watching a 10 minute video of a players "skills" when I've already watched all his games. Watched about a quarter of that and there was nothing substantial.
If you think a highlights reel is proof of anything then it's no wonder you think Pedro is a great dribbler/passer - every player is going to have moments over an entire season. It's about how often you make good passes or complete good dribbles and Pedro doesn't show it very often. Like I said, he can beat a man but it's with raw pace like Bale rather than actual dribbling. Pushing the ball past someone isn't dribbling.
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/44055/Nothing more then an assumption until you can provide the statistics to prove your case.
I'm with you here... He's a decent player for sure, and is a pretty good goalscorer from out wide, but if people are thinking he's going to provide creativity and dribble past players at United, then they have the wrong idea of him completely. He's a player who relies on his movement and once he's through on goal you can rely on him to finish it, and he's a relatively hard worker, but that's about it.
He's not shit but he's a pretty average player who would really be nothing more then a squad player. Memphis has a lot more to his game, so does Januzaj (even though he needs to improve a lot, also not saying he's better, just more rounded). Pedro is like a poacher from the wing... You can rely on him to finish when through on goal and he's quick, but he won't have much of an impact on the game.Thread closed - Pedro is shit!
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/44055/
The statistics actually make him sound a lot worse then he is but since you asked for it...
1 shot per game, 0.7 key passes per game, 21.5 overall passes per game, 0.4 crosses per game, 0.6 dribbles per game for the attacking side. Defensively, 0.5 tackles per game, 0.3 interceptions, 0.1 clearances...
He's a good goalscorer but he relies on his movement and the delivery from Messi and others, he doesn't fashion out chances for himself. He doesn't do much else. He'd be nothing more then a squad player if he came IMO.
Edit: His best ever season since whoscored compiled data in terms of dribbles was 0.9 per game, and 1.2 key passes. So a lot of people on here have the wrong perception of what type of player he is.
The guy asked for stats! Anyway.. I probably make it sound like I'm completely against it which I'm not, he'd be a very good option to have and would add pace and goals to our attack. Also he wouldn't be expensive at all at only 20m or so. He's also a hard worker defensively. So I'd be happy getting him, just people should know they aren't getting some creative player who can dribble past players at will like Hazard does.Who gives a shit about stats - his name is cool & it'll cost less to have it on the back of my brand new United shirt at then end of the month?!
Get with the programme man..
He's not shit but he's a pretty average player who would really be nothing more then a squad player. Memphis has a lot more to his game, so does Januzaj (even though he needs to improve a lot, also not saying he's better, just more rounded). Pedro is like a poacher from the wing... You can rely on him to finish when through on goal and he's quick, but he won't have much of an impact on the game.
Yes to be honest, I too can see what Bob is trying to say, posters are maybe making it a tad too personal just because he's a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't say he's a million miles off either. The thing with Pedro is he fits into Barca's *minimal for maximum effect* mould so well that you don't know quite how he'd perform if given more freedom, someone a few pages back was likening him to Hazard? and I personally think there's no chance of him operating like that.
The guy asked for stats! Anyway.. I probably make it sound like I'm completely against it which I'm not, he'd be a very good option to have and would add pace and goals to our attack. Also he wouldn't be expensive at all at only 20m or so. He's also a hard worker defensively. So I'd be happy getting him, just people should know they aren't getting some creative player who can dribble past players at will like Hazard does.
You's wont be sayin all that, if he signs for us - that's a given...
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/44055/
The statistics actually make him sound a lot worse then he is but since you asked for it...
1 shot per game, 0.7 key passes per game, 21.5 overall passes per game, 0.4 crosses per game, 0.6 dribbles per game for the attacking side. Defensively, 0.5 tackles per game, 0.3 interceptions, 0.1 clearances...
He's a good goalscorer but he relies on his movement and the delivery from Messi and others, he doesn't fashion out chances for himself. He doesn't do much else. He'd be nothing more then a squad player if he came IMO.
Edit: His best ever season since whoscored compiled data in terms of dribbles was 0.9 per game, and 1.2 key passes. So a lot of people on here have the wrong perception of what type of player he is.
So you have seen the guy(probably) like handful of times and he has better game than Pedro all of a sudden?He's not shit but he's a pretty average player who would really be nothing more then a squad player. Memphis has a lot more to his game, so does Januzaj (even though he needs to improve a lot, also not saying he's better, just more rounded). Pedro is like a poacher from the wing... You can rely on him to finish when through on goal and he's quick, but he won't have much of an impact on the game.
He's a good player, technical, two footed, tactically very flexible and has an eye for goal, I watch every Barca game I can, I've gone to the Camp Nou and seen Barca play a couple times, and seen Pedro hit the net, so i'm a fan more or less.
I wouldn't cry if we purchased him, he's a really good goalscoring wide threat and would be a useful addition all in all, but if people are expecting him to be a maveric dribbler/creative player by himself then they may be disappointed.
There's nothing more uplifting than seeing maverick, dribbling & creative wingers at OT - like you mentioned of Pedro. Nice one on the Nou Camp scouting mission mate - he's a shoe-in for POTY, after that appraisal imo..
*fist pumps* ;-)
So you have seen the guy(probably) like handful of times and he has better game than Pedro all of a sudden?
Nah I noticed don't worry! Just wanted to add that bit as I'm not all against the signing.Jaysus man - i'm only muckin about. Did you not catch that about name on the back of the shirt costing less because there's less letters?
Tough crowd
Pretty much what Benny said...So you have seen the guy(probably) like handful of times and he has better game than Pedro all of a sudden?
Memphis is more rounded, he's more creative and is more of a dribbler along with being a goalscorer. Pedro is pretty much a poacher from out wide.Can I has autograph?
He's not currently better than Pedro, I think what he means is, when watching Memphis Depay this season (Seen several games live on Sky), Depay has shown in the role affored that he can contribute goals out of the blue, or by sparking his team with a dribble, free kick etc outside of his teams performance etc, so one would assume if he keeps developing by the time he's Pedro's age he has a chance to be very special.
Pedro isn't that type of *special game changer*
Can I has autograph?
He's not shit but he's a pretty average player who would really be nothing more then a squad player. Memphis has a lot more to his game, so does Januzaj (even though he needs to improve a lot, also not saying he's better, just more rounded). Pedro is like a poacher from the wing... You can rely on him to finish when through on goal and he's quick, but he won't have much of an impact on the game.
Nah I noticed don't worry! Just wanted to add that bit as I'm not all against the signing.
Pretty much what Benny said...
Memphis is more rounded, he's more creative and is more of a dribbler along with being a goalscorer. Pedro is pretty much a poacher from out wide.