Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea

where will Pedro go?


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The most interesting part of that article is this for me..

When a club deals with Barcelona, it deals with two sides of the club: The sporting and the elected administrative. Given that, United must avoid a repeat of the situation with Cesc Fabregas two years ago

In 2013, Fabregas didn't want to leave but was happy to if the club wanted to sell him. The elected administrative side of Barcelona wanted to sell the midfielder but the sporting side did not.

During that summer, two United targets were well advised to say nothing publicly, yet both affirmed that they were interested in moving to Old Trafford by making direct calls to confirm it. Not through their agent, but direct.

Under contract at their current clubs, they were reluctant to ask for a transfer and, because they didn't ask, the clubs didn't push to sell them. If they had asked, the clubs could have said "He wanted to leave, we had to sell him", which would have covered their backs with fans. As it was, neither played joined United.
 
I think it's really more of a case of Barcelona wanting to keep him a little longer while Neymar is still injured rather than us haggling over a few quid. We paid good fees for all our signing this season and it's not like £22m for Pedro is outrageous money. If Barca can get two more Supercopa games out of him then they will probably happily let him go afterwards. If Turan and Vidal were able to play now he'd already be United player.
 
If I was in his position I'd wait and see if United qualify for the CL Group Stages before committing to anything.
 
If I was in his position I'd wait and see if United qualify for the CL Group Stages before committing to anything.
Good point. He is 28 and probably wants Champions League football from the minute he joins he club. On ther hand him joining earlier could contribute to us qualifying.
 
Good point. He is 28 and probably wants Champions League football from the minute he joins he club. On ther hand him joining earlier could contribute to us qualifying.
If he doesn't think we can beat Club Brugge he shouldn't even consider joining us.
 
Anyone else get the feeling this transfer isn't going to happen? If it does I think Pedro is waiting until we get Champions League football and he wants to win another trophy with Barcelona in the mean time, Spanish Super Cup.
 
We wouldn't let Di Maria go without replacing him, Pedro seems the most likely one to come in. Not worried that this falls trough at all to be fair, give it some time.
 
Thing's went quiet on Schneiderlin at one point with Southampton saying there were no new bids then suddenly he was ours. Something similar probably going to happen here.
 
No, nobody has said that. Exactly equal to all other losses.

But it's an unarguable fact that in this scenario, had we won the Villa game we would have won the league. And if we believe that Pedro's presence would have won us the Villa game, then the original argument is perfectly valid.



I'm not sure why you keep going back to this idea, it's utterly irrelevant as it would never happen.



Again, no. You can blame them all equally. If any sinlge one of them hadn't happened, we'd have won the league.

I'm honestly not sure what part of this you don't get.

You don't blame equally. You blame them based on whichever we were more likely to win but we lost. Even though we gain 3 points for every win, a win against Chelsea is more important than a win against Bournemouth because of the quality of players both have. The opposite is true for loss. A loss against Bournemouth is worse than a loss to Chelsea and you blame the worse loss if the Difference is minimal. We are more likely to win a match with a stronger squad than otherwise. There are matches which you are supposed to win in the normal course (teams in lower half mainly), and matches you may win like with the top 6 who are stronger winning that is less probable than the earlier.

Now going by the premise, you are likelier to win a game with a stronger squad than otherwise meaning any loss which happens with pedro in the team is supposed to be a bigger loss than the one without him when we are supposedly 'weaker'. Pedro will make us stronger up front.

Generally a match against Aston villa is a match we have to win but the premise here is that the guy to whom I replied to said earlier that we may lose to villa so I'm continuing that. The only way that a villa loss can become our difference between winning and losing a title is if it was the only loss.

This is common sense
 
I think it's really more of a case of Barcelona wanting to keep him a little longer while Neymar is still injured rather than us haggling over a few quid. We paid good fees for all our signing this season and it's not like £22m for Pedro is outrageous money. If Barca can get two more Supercopa games out of him then they will probably happily let him go afterwards. If Turan and Vidal were able to play now he'd already be United player.
Vidal plays for Bayern.
 
I don't get the low balling reports. We paid more for Shaw. We've just had a cash injection from Di Maria. We've cleared some top wages.

I think it's Barca that are stalling. They don't want him to leave.
 
IF, and that's a massive IF, that is legit quote - then he is ours.

I've followed these guys for a while, and they've never claimed to be ITK. I remember them posting a tweet, last week, with some information from another embargoed PC, which ended up being true. I do trust them.
 
Tweet isn't showing. What did it say?

Guess it's been deleted now then. Basically it quotes LVG saying we are looking at a creative and fast player and Pedro fits and it's a process. The actual quote is in LVG's broken English, so it isn't as straightforward.
 
"It is a process. I want a player who is creative and fast, Pedro is this. Purple monkey dishwasher"
 
You don't blame equally. You blame them based on whichever we were more likely to win but we lost. Even though we gain 3 points for every win, a win against Chelsea is more important than a win against Bournemouth because of the quality of players both have. The opposite is true for loss. A loss against Bournemouth is worse than a loss to Chelsea and you blame the worse loss if the Difference is minimal. We are more likely to win a match with a stronger squad than otherwise. There are matches which you are supposed to win in the normal course (teams in lower half mainly), and matches you may win like with the top 6 who are stronger winning that is less probable than the earlier.

Now going by the premise, you are likelier to win a game with a stronger squad than otherwise meaning any loss which happens with pedro in the team is supposed to be a bigger loss than the one without him when we are supposedly 'weaker'. Pedro will make us stronger up front.

Generally a match against Aston villa is a match we have to win but the premise here is that the guy to whom I replied to said earlier that we may lose to villa so I'm continuing that. The only way that a villa loss can become our difference between winning and losing a title is if it was the only loss.

This is common sense

If by "common sense" you mean "the confused meanderings of an addled mind", then yes, it is.

I mean seriously, try rereading this post. It's many things, but common sense it ain't. The best you could hope for is visionary genius that is beyond the rest of us, but I'm pretty sure it ain't that either. :lol:
 
We are being such dicks on this and also the Otamendi deal. Sign them. Start the season strongly and do well. Can they not see that's what we need to compete properly? Dicks
 
I thought Mata was pretty good against Spurs, His close control at times was wonderful. There was a run he did in particular where he beat a few Spurs players with strength and skill. And another excellent take out of the air. Shame if he were to be dropped for Pedro
 
I reckon at some point last season pedro went banging on enriques door moaning that he wasn't getting decent game time and especially in the big games .

As a sweetener the Barcelona hierarchy told him that he was an important member of the squad and if he felt the same at the end of the season the club would let him go if an offer of 30m euros full up front cash was made .

It seems like Barcelona don't want him to leave and are regretting saying this . I can't see Utd not meeting that price so it must be either Barcelona or the player that's holding things up .

Forget city as they will go all out for kdb and he will replace navas . My own opinion is this will drag out for the next few weeks till either Neymar is back or united are confirmed in the champions league if they over come Brugge .
 
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