The last informations from Wolfsburg are that KdB ist staying... You never know...
Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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The last informations from Wolfsburg are that KdB ist staying... You never know...
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But probably in line with the needs of the club.
While they only be arguing over £3m or £4m per transfer. That could add up to quite a lot over a number of years.
The "needs of the club" are, in the situation where Van Gaal is still rebuilding the squad, to recruit players of the quality required. It's not a case of quibbling over a couple of million for a player who's not desperately needed. For this short period we need to get players in and that's the number one priority - in my view the only priority.
I find it hard to believe that the deal is held up because we are haggling over the price. My guess is that either the player hasn't fully made up his mind yet or he is our second choice behind Bale or someone.
or maybe we are not interested and never have been.
From his comments after the match it seems to me that he is still unclear about whether he's staying or going.
The fact he namedropped us would suggest that we are or were at some stage
That's definitely a possibility. The earlier reports were all about Chelsea's interest in him.
Though, then our manager name dropped him in one of his interviews, so there may be something to it.
I don't know. I agree with anyone who is of the opinion that the transfer window should shut before the start of the season.
This could end up like the Thiago Alcantara saga
...Or because the €30m is a gentlemans agreement and Barcelona may be choosing to delay until as late as they can? Or because we have a verbal agreement with the player as is believed, we are trying to make the €30 inclusive of performance clauses...
Don't think us muppets care as much if we get Pedro or not. So no.
Say for example we dont end up getting Pedro and it falls through. We still need new options uptop so who would people suggest we would be in for in that case?
Dead in the water?
No one. And we will be left with the same dire football we had to endure during our first game.
I think the same thats why I asked the question. Worrying really. Shoehorning multiple attacking players out of position just doesnt work. Mata shouldnt be a winger (especially if he doesnt have Herrera in the team supporting him that side), Memphis shouldnt be a No.10 and really Rooney shouldnt be a No.9.the Spurs game was woeful like much of last seasons games (aside from when he finally went 4-3-3 for a good run of games including having Herrera in the team). We started to play some very good stuff. Our demolition of Liverpool at Anfield was the best football Ive seen us play for a fair few years.
Transfer goes a bit quiet and the cracks start to show on the caf. Soon there will be a meltdown...
I think this is the most likely. Whatever "agreement" is in place might not detail exactly how the €30m must be paid. Barca presumably want a lump sum, while United will want a more conventionally structured fee. So there will be all sorts of legal jiggery pokery going on behind the scenes to find out exactly what is needed to trigger the release clause he agreed with the club.
We should also take his recent comments with a huge pinch of salt. He'll be well aware that nothing is certain in football and he could end up stuck at Barca. If he plays his cards now and admits that he's the driving force behind this potential move then he'll get all sorts of abuse from the Barca fans if he does end up staying put.
Yep, he isn't going to come off the fence until it's final. It's also the reason why De Gea has said nothing all summer.
What a bunch of drama queens here. People don't know what's going on behind the scenes but are happy to jump to conclusions like "Woody dithering again" or "haggling over a few million". It's a negotiation, these things take some time. Even if the price is more or less agreed there's still the manner of payment and god knows how many other legal shit. Have some patience ffs.
Exactly, the question for me is whether it's worth haggling over how much of the €30m is clauses and how much isn't. If it costs us the player, it will ultimately not be worth it. With us trying to sell players for me recently, as VG has stated, it'd be nice to get this one done, especially when I don't think there is anybody out there that doesn't think he is worth the €30m.
What if we miss out on winning the league by 3 points and we lose to Villa and he could have helped us win the game? The seasons already underway.
One important thing, if Barcelona really want the payment without installment, there is a fair chance that we can't find an agreement, iirc we lost a lot of cash in the last 18 months.
That would explain the rumor that we are willing to pay more than 30m€ but not without installments.
If Barca want the money in one lump sum it sounds more like they don't want to lose the player and are therefore making this "gentlemans agreement" as difficult as possible. United may not want to play that game.
If Pedro and United are serious about it, an agreement will be found but Barcelona will need some convincing.
You say that as if that's completely in the club's hands and no one else's. It takes more than 1 party to negotiate.
Probably just as much due to the club having to look like they have huge qualms about selling, him being a home grown player and fan favourite. Even if the whole board and directors (or however they operate) are in agreement, they're still going to make a fuss about it, trying to make it look as if they did everything in their power to make him stay, but alas, he was so keen on going that we just couldn't stop him...right.
You have to say, Barca is a brilliant club and all, but they sure do like some drama from time to time.
maybe a deal will happen in the end. But there really is no hurry for Barca. They can't spend the money on someone else this window. It can happen on August 31st for all they care. But I still imagine their preference would be to wait until January when Turan would be available to replace Pedro.
This Barca transfer ban may well cost United getting Pedro this summer.
Was pretty sure this was nailed on a couple of weeks ago but now I'm starting to think it wont happen.
If its true that he's agreed to join us and we're just haggling over the fee then I wouldnt blame him for going back on his word! It's been dragging on for way too long now! Theres something else to this story!
If its true that he's agreed to join us and we're just haggling over the fee then I wouldnt blame him for going back on his word! It's been dragging on for way too long now! Theres something else to this story!
So your assumption is that villa is the only team we will lose to and pedro will win us the rest of the 36 matches? We will lose/draw a good number of games and even if we end up losing the title for less than 3 points, it won't be because of a villa loss (if at all that happens)
I get the feeling he will get the assurances he wants and will stay....
he will rotate with Neymar/Messi/Rafinha
(*hoping i'm wrong on this/not getting hopes up)
he will rotate with Neymar/Messi/Rafinha
(*hoping i'm wrong on this/not getting hopes up)
I hope this is done soon!
And Suarez will ?
Does this buy-out clause / gentleman's agreement expire at some point? Maybe we're just waiting for that to happen so we can pay a few million more than required.
I think LvG has his reservations and this will end up seeing him stay at Barca, or go to City.
bite Enrique if he suggests it
The bulk of media reports I have read imply that that United haven't even made a bid yet, which is a bit confusing. I'm discounting the links to City and Chelsea that have been in the Catalan press, those are clearly designed to flush United out. Still, what are we waiting for? £22 million is not a lot for a player of Pedro's pedigree. Is the club just trying to delay it until deadline day to generate excitement?
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