Payet Winter Signing

I do not want him. He is not needed (we are well stocked in his position). No resale value. Too expensive (not that we cannot afford him).

Would be the most illogical transfer ever.

Like Van Persie?
 
No, I'm not arguing, I'm stating a fact, he's been average this season whereas last season he took the league by storm. Whereas others are suggesting he has picked up where he left off last season, which he clearly hasn't.

The difference is his teammates have not. Think Antonio, Sakho etc...

It makes a difference when the chances being created are not being converted this time round.


The stats are conclusive that he has performed as he has last season but he can't get on the end of his own crosses.

It's one of things when the chances are put away he is rightly praised for his contributions but when the chances he creates are not being converted then he gets the light shone on him because he became the face of West Ham's success last season and if they are not performing he gets the flack.
 
The big question is why West Ham would sell in January when possibly needing to fight off relegation. Given the club's trajectory - coming off a big season and now with the new stadium, etc - relegation would be absolutely devastating. They're not going to sell their best player mid-year unless they go on a good run that puts them well clear of the drop by late January.
 
If a short term fix gets us out of the shit we are in then do it.

It would be nice to have a player that can take a corner, let alone his free kicks. Might be able to actually use that height we have.
 
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Like Van Persie?
What has Van Persie to do with that?

We were very short at that position. Van Persie was twice the player Payet ever will be.

Van Persie played a key role for us in being champions. SAF's retirement was the only reason we had only one wonder season of RvP. Payet would have literally changed nothing at the moment.

Have people learned nothing? Not every player is suitable for us. Van Persie was a perfect sensible choice. There is absolutely no point is signing Payet.
 
Do not want. As good as he can be at times, all he has had is a purple patch. Don't think he has the right frame of mind or attitude to play at a top club, after all that's what held him back as a young fella. A good talent but lacked motivation and caused ructions.
 
What has Van Persie to do with that?

We were very short at that position. Van Persie was twice the player Payet ever will be.

Van Persie played a key role for us in being champions. SAF's retirement was the only reason we had only one wonder season of RvP. Payet would have literally changed nothing at the moment.

Have people learned nothing? Not every player is suitable for us. Van Persie was a perfect sensible choice. There is absolutely no point is signing Payet.
As dubious as this source is, people are still discussing this based on the source, it's not our opinions or wishful thinking about signing Payet.

So when you say 'have people learned nothing? ' etc you are basically saying you know more than Mourinho about what we need and how he wants his side to operate in the future.
If this is true, hasn't Mourinho's 4 signings from last summer shown that he deserves our trust?
 
So we have players like Fellaini, Rooney, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Depay, Young, Lingard, Carrick (who will be 36!! next season) and people are scoffing at Payet??? WTF! :eek:
 
As dubious as this source is, people are still discussing this based on the source, it's not our opinions or wishful thinking about signing Payet.

So when you say 'have people learned nothing? ' etc you are basically saying you know more than Mourinho about what we need and how he wants his side to operate in the future.
If this is true, hasn't Mourinho's 4 signings from last summer shown that he deserves our trust?
I have an absolute trust in Mourinho. Nevertheless it is still possible to disagree with him on certain issues. But we don't even know if this is the case.

On the other hand, are we going to discuss every media gossip? We are going to be linked with hundreds of players within but also outside transfer windows. Yes, I do think people have learnt nothing if they think that every good player can improve us.
 
Where would he play?

We have Rashford, Mhki, Martial, Lingard, Mata and Rooney fighting for a starting birth in any position he would play.

We have far bigger priorities.
 
Do we need another player in his position? Maybe not, but if we sign him, it's because Jose wants him. That's good enough for me. Don't know why anyone cares about transfer fees, it's not like we're skint. I've no objections about signing someone in their prime either, easily get 4 top years out of a 30 year old.
 
We don't need any more No.10-ish players, we already have too many. We need a proper winger who is fast and tricky.
 
So we have players like Fellaini, Rooney, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Depay, Young, Lingard, Carrick (who will be 36!! next season) and people are scoffing at Payet??? WTF! :eek:
None of those players you've named play Payet's position.
 
None of those players you've named play Payet's position.

Exactly how many of our players play in their preferred position?? Having Payet in an attacking midfield would negate the need for most of those players mentioned. Plus he would add some quality in set pieces. I think he would thrive in a United side.
 
He's excellent. However, at a time when our defence looks weak, our central midfield is overly dependent on Carrick and our strikers have been less than efficient over the first half of the season, buying a player like Payet seems like a less than fundamental improvement.
 
He's excellent. However, at a time when our defence looks weak, our central midfield is overly dependent on Carrick and our strikers have been less than efficient over the first half of the season, buying a player like Payet seems like a less than fundamental improvement.

I feel we need a creative and man beating winger the most of all, we have not had a proper winger for a long time and that is the main problem as I see it.
 
Exactly how many of our players play in their preferred position?? Having Payet in an attacking midfield would negate the need for most of those players mentioned. Plus he would add some quality in set pieces. I think he would thrive in a United side.
As I said earlier, where would you guys play Payet with Mata, Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Martial, and Rooney in your team?
 
As I said earlier, where would you guys play Payet with Mata, Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Martial, and Rooney in your team?

----------Ibrahimovic---------
Payet-------------------Martial
-------------Pogba-------------
Herrera-------------Mkhitaryan

It's a squad game now and about having strength in depth. Mata, Rooney, Rashford etc. would still get decent game time and could cover when necessary.
 
----------Ibrahimovic---------
Payet-------------------Martial
-------------Pogba-------------
Herrera-------------Mkhitaryan

It's a squad game now and about having strength in depth. Mata, Rooney, Rashford etc. would still get decent game time and could cover when necessary.
You want to put our best attacker last season in his arguably weaker position where can't use his greatest strength of dribbling and cutting in?
Then drop arguably our best attacker this season in Mata? I can almost understand this but...
Then play the Bundesliga player of the year playing as a right winger in deep central midfield?
AND play without a holding midfielder?

All for Payet?
 
----------Ibrahimovic---------
Payet-------------------Martial
-------------Pogba-------------
Herrera-------------Mkhitaryan

It's a squad game now and about having strength in depth. Mata, Rooney, Rashford etc. would still get decent game time and could cover when necessary.
You'd get run through like a knife through butter with that midfield. Hasn't Mata also been one of your two or three best players this season? Dropping him would be harsh, no? And Mkhitaryan is more of an advanced midfielder.

That team is far too attack minded for Mourinho.
 
France doesn't fit in Pogba, Payet, Martial and Griezman. How would MUFC?

I am as certain as a no-nothing can be Griezman is on his way next summer. Let's wait 6 months instead of adding an expensive luxury/older player.
 
I had this weird feeling the other day when we played West Ham (the first game) and Ibrahimovic fouled Payet accidentally. He put the ball out immediately when he noticed Payet was down as they had clashed knees. I don't know why but the way he went back over to him and checked on/talked to him gave me this strong feeling that we are targeting Payet in January and Zlatan is aware of that, or that he is essentially already coming and Zlatan knows, either because he's friends with Payet or through Mourinho. I know it sounds completely ridiculous, I have never had that thought about any transfers for anyone or even care about Payet being a target or not (hadn't even considered it this season and even then he surely can't fit in with so many players in his position already), but it immediately convinced me that we are signing him in the January window because of how he reacted.

Not at all mate, sounds very plausible. Quite likely even, i'm convinced.
 
You want to put our best attacker last season in his arguably weaker position where can't use his greatest strength of dribbling and cutting in?
Then drop arguably our best attacker this season in Mata? I can almost understand this but...
Then play the Bundesliga player of the year playing as a right winger in deep central midfield?
AND play without a holding midfielder?

All for Payet?

Mata doesn't start every game at the moment. Why do you always need a 'holding midfielder'? The trouble is people try to over complicate something which is so straightforward. Having a solid defence would allow the attack to push further up the pitch. Players switch around all the time and that attacking lineup would allow the players some freedom.

The thread was speculating about Payet signing. This is just speculation as to where he could play.
 
Around 30 or over -check
Would demand a big wage -check
His club would only sell him for an inflated fee -check
Plays in a position we already have lots of options in -check

Yep seems like a post Fergie United signing.
 
I can't tell if the people saying we should sign him for his set pieces are being serious or not.
 
I can't tell if the people saying we should sign him for his set pieces are being serious or not.

You mean like saying Smalling's our best defender because he's tall and good in the air or Fellaini's a useful player because again he's tall and good at chesting the ball. Hmmm?
 
----------Ibrahimovic---------
Payet-------------------Martial
-------------Pogba-------------
Herrera-------------Mkhitaryan

It's a squad game now and about having strength in depth. Mata, Rooney, Rashford etc. would still get decent game time and could cover when necessary.

:lol: You've been playing too much Fifa if you actually think that's a realistic lineup.