Paulo Dybala

I strongly believe that our attack is just as bad as our defence these days. What we need to do is, get our attack sorted first then defence.

Liverpool are challenging for the title and are in champions league semis with top heavy attack and strong defense.

All top teams have front three that puts fear into opposition. We need to get Dybala, Felix and Sancho. In these three, we would have amazing young stars which we would be able to sign for 260m. Infact if we swap Dybala with Lukaku+20m, it will result in us signing Sancho (100m), Felix (80m) and Dybala (Lukaku +20) for 200m only. Thus we can go on and sign the likes of Brandt (25m), Rabiot (free), Bruno (30m), Muenier (25m) and Alderweirald (25m).

All these players could be signed for approx 300m. Excluding sales that is. I hope we adopt this kind of strategy. We would actually be favourites for the league with this side.

Ddg
Muenier Alderweirald Lindelof Shaw
Herrera/Bruno Rabiot Pogba/Brandt
Sancho Dybala Felix

If you were able to pull this off, then you would be the frontrunner for the Peace prize.

Juventus are actually a professionally governed club, so they will not go for Lukaku.
Sancho is next season. Felix will be difficult, given that the other clubs going for him are better, aims to win and can offer CL. Only thing we can offer is £££.
Dybala is ... Not the player we need. If we were looking to find the last two pieces in the squad that would elevate us to the highest level, then he would be such a player.
 
Read what he posted. He never said never sign anyone or just solely youth, just not go down the galacticos route. It’s failed us under LVG and Jose.

We do need players of that quality but also those who want to play here and build this club again. They can be rich nothing wrong with that but work for the club and respect the fans

Thanks. That's exactly my point.....
 
All for it if Lukaku is going in the other direction and gets him off our books.
Will be a massive upgrade on technical quality
I’d imagine if we are bringing in Dybala it’s to play in the false 9 role we’ve had people like Mata/Lingard play in recently. I’d imagine Lukaku, Rashford and Martial given Oles comments this last week will all just rotate for the 2 striker spots.
Imagine if Felix was bought he’d be for the same role.
 
He's defiantly stagnated at at Juventus no doubt about that. He can be useful to us but he's not clinical if that's what we are looking for. We shouldn't be paying more than £70m tops for him.
 
Well he cannot possibly know Dybala’s motives. He said he ‘wants players with something to prove’, and also made some joke about coming to collect a pension - so there is an inference that he wants young players who have yet to make their names. With Dybala himself being only 25 - I would imagine he means even younger than that.

If fans are so down, or feel that United are so ‘ugly’ that they don’t want to sign top players in their prime ‘because they might not really love is for who we are’ or something - then we either target young players and become a stepping stone, or just average older players who have been weighed and measured and not wanted at other top clubs.

I don't need to know his motives, just my opinion about the nature of these signings, all different in age, culture, countries of origin, leagues but with the same outcome. All of which amount to millions in transfer fees so why then would I want to replicate potentially the same again. No idea of his motives but I would question why would he want to leave a team that pretty much wins their respective league every year with arguably the best player in the world to come here. Especially, when you think the only player he has some connection with wants to leave here anyway?
Someone needs to explain to me why a player of his profile would want to come now....
 
I’d imagine if we are bringing in Dybala it’s to play in the false 9 role we’ve had people like Mata/Lingard play in recently. I’d imagine Lukaku, Rashford and Martial given Oles comments this last week will all just rotate for the 2 striker spots.
Imagine if Felix was bought he’d be for the same role.

He can play him anywhere along the front 3, as well as AM. I would still get in another more direct striker.

Swap Lukaku for Dybala
Get Sanchez out of the club and him replace with him Zaha/Sancho/Pepe
And get in a experienced goalscorer, someone Rashford can learn off and be backup to, like Vardy
 
He can play him anywhere along the front 3, as well as AM. I would still get in another more direct striker.

Swap Lukaku for Dybala
Get Sanchez out of the club and him replace with him Zaha/Sancho/Pepe
And get in a experienced goalscorer, someone Rashford can learn off and be backup to, like Vardy
I mean Lukaku is an experienced goal scorer and Vardy is just a speed merchant with poor technical ability so sounds like the perfect match for Rashford really.

If we are bringing in Dybala or someone of that ilk then I can’t see us buying wingers when like you’ve said Dybala can operate off the right and the other 3 can fill in the other positions.

Agree on getting Sanchez out but would seem like a waste to me to bring in a winger like zaha or Pepe. At least Sancho can play through the middle in a similar position to Dybala.

Anyway we’ll see what happens but for me the bigger concern is how rubbish midfield is at creating anything for anyone or spotting runs. That needs to be fixed.
 
I mean Lukaku is an experienced goal scorer and Vardy is just a speed merchant with poor technical ability so sounds like the perfect match for Rashford really.

If we are bringing in Dybala or someone of that ilk then I can’t see us buying wingers when like you’ve said Dybala can operate off the right and the other 3 can fill in the other positions.

Agree on getting Sanchez out but would seem like a waste to me to bring in a winger like zaha or Pepe. At least Sancho can play through the middle in a similar position to Dybala.

Anyway we’ll see what happens but for me the bigger concern is how rubbish midfield is at creating anything for anyone or spotting runs. That needs to be fixed.

Vardy is miles ahead of both Rashford and current Lukaku. Great striker.
 
Surely that’s what we want to become? We can’t turn down that level of player on the basis we don’t have enough others. Pogba is already suffering here on the basis that we don’t have enough (or any) others on his level.
I get what you are saying. But we can't afford another big money flop. Why I'm not in favor of this signing is because

1. He has been on the bench most of the season and Juventus don't actually want him. Not a great sign for a 25 year old.
2. He doesn't regard United that highly either. I remember him saying something during Pogba's transfer. So we are definitely not his preferred destination.
3. He is a confidence player and can be highly inconsistent. (We already have too many of those)
4. Our previous record with signing South American players has been a disaster.

EDIT: I love him as a player but I'm just not sure he'll be able to produce his best form. If it works out, then great but I highly doubt it.
 
Nope. Name any of these type of signings since SAF that have proven to be successful?

Pogba, regardless of what the knee jerkers think. Not his fault that in what has been his best ever club season he was initially marginalised by his manager and then had to face his colleagues be absolute shite. I'd want to leave if i was him. 3 years here and we've gone backwards.
 
I mean Lukaku is an experienced goal scorer and Vardy is just a speed merchant with poor technical ability so sounds like the perfect match for Rashford really.

If we are bringing in Dybala or someone of that ilk then I can’t see us buying wingers when like you’ve said Dybala can operate off the right and the other 3 can fill in the other positions.

Agree on getting Sanchez out but would seem like a waste to me to bring in a winger like zaha or Pepe. At least Sancho can play through the middle in a similar position to Dybala.

Anyway we’ll see what happens but for me the bigger concern is how rubbish midfield is at creating anything for anyone or spotting runs. That needs to be fixed.

No hes not, he works a defence, pulls them all over the place and has great positional awareness in finding space, he's also a clinical goalscorer against the best teams, not just cannon fodder like Lukaku is. If you think Vardy has poor technique, then what does it say about Lukaku

The sqaud still needs depth
Rashford
Martial
Dybala
Lingard
Vardy
Zaha

All playing for the front 3 positions with Lingard & Dybala also being able to play as a AM
 
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I don't need to know his motives, just my opinion about the nature of these signings, all different in age, culture, countries of origin, leagues but with the same outcome. All of which amount to millions in transfer fees so why then would I want to replicate potentially the same again. No idea of his motives but I would question why would he want to leave a team that pretty much wins their respective league every year with arguably the best player in the world to come here. Especially, when you think the only player he has some connection with wants to leave here anyway?
Someone needs to explain to me why a player of his profile would want to come now....

He’s a professional footballer. He wasn’t born in Turin, and probably didn’t grow up thinking Juventus or nothing. If he’s hit a road block where he is and needs to take his career elsewhere, then why not Manchester United? I’m not going to pretend or try to sell a theory to you that he’s always dreamt of Old Trafford. I’m just telling you that he’s a top player and a professional. Provided he has the right attitude to the game as a whole, I don’t see why he couldn’t succeed here.

Because we have had signings that haven’t worked it is no reason to start targeting lesser players. If Liverpool don’t win the league this year, I’m sure people will think they are a more appealing team than us. Is that just because they ‘play better football?’ They are a team that hasn’t won anything major for longer than us. I think a lot of our fears are in our heads. Top clubs will attract top players, and after that - both parties need to match each other’s ambitions going forward. Every top player can’t be at Real or Barca.
 
Mata issues again :nervous:

If he replaces Rashford, I would be happy with this signing else No.
 
I heard he plays a similar position to Messi in the national team, so a bit flair behind the main striker or as the main forward, he would be a massive upgrade to what we have.
 
He'd be a great signing if we already had a fully functioning side. He's too much of a luxury player and a risk of failure at the moment, we need technical players around him first before adding him in.
 
Alot mentioning swapping Lukaku for Dybala

Just a thought , Juventus where/are interested in Martial, would make sense a straight swap if possible.

Getting Martial out as one with a poor attitude would be 2 birds with 1 stone.

Cash in on Lukaku if possible then buy a good striker.

..........new striker
Rashford..Pogba..Dybala

Would be my thinking, i think Rashfords alot better wide left, could interchange easily with Dybala and Pogba

If you can add two very mobile with good quality on the ball behind them then your half way there.
 
He would work wonders if he plays as as our main striker. If he has Rashford or Lukaku playing in front of him, that wouldnt work. Not the best in the air though and his hold up play isnt all that. We would need technical wingers and midfielders to link him up with him. In the right setup he'd get 20+ goals easy. Very Aguero-esque kind of striker.
 
We have no right winger. We have no right back. We have shit to average center backs but overall are about 11th in the league on paper in defensive quality. Our midfield is woeful and the good players want to leave while those that arent good enough will stay.

Yet we are linked with an expesive #10 when our squad isnt even suited to a #10. Everything that is wrong with the club in a nutshell. fecking buy defenders and a brand new midfield and a right wing. Nothing will be fixed if we buy Dybala. Go after someone like him once we sort out the massive holes in the squad because then we can see if the decent parts of the squad can improve with a better foundation or if they truly need replacing as well.
 
He would work wonders if he plays as as our main striker. If he has Rashford or Lukaku playing in front of him, that wouldnt work. Not the best in the air though and his hold up play isnt all that. We would need technical wingers and midfielders to link him up with him. In the right setup he'd get 20+ goals easy. Very Aguero-esque kind of striker.
Hes not a striker. Hes not Aguero-esque. Maybe in Fifa. Not in real life.
 
We have no right winger. We have no right back. We have shit to average center backs but overall are about 11th in the league on paper in defensive quality. Our midfield is woeful and the good players want to leave while those that arent good enough will stay.

Yet we are linked with an expesive #10 when our squad isnt even suited to a #10. Everything that is wrong with the club in a nutshell. fecking buy defenders and a brand new midfield and a right wing. Nothing will be fixed if we buy Dybala. Go after someone like him once we sort out the massive holes in the squad because then we can see if the decent parts of the squad can improve with a better foundation or if they truly need replacing as well.
He's not a #10. Just looked on transfermarkt and he's actually only played there about 11 times in his career.
 
In my career mode I have him in 4321:

Martial Dybala Rashford
Pogba Rice Fred
Shaw Alderweireld Lindelof Meunier
De Gea
A good player but I still think he's overrated and would have Bruno Fernandes instead given the choice.
 
I heard he plays a similar position to Messi in the national team, so a bit flair behind the main striker or as the main forward, he would be a massive upgrade to what we have.
He plays like Rooney did when in his prime for us. Drops deep builds play then gets into the box for a finish.

He would instantly be our best forward.
 
He's not a #10. Just looked on transfermarkt and he's actually only played there about 11 times in his career.
Not as an attacking mid but like a support striker sort of role, same as griezmann. Not a right sided player (though hes played there in the past, but it's not the best use of him). Not a #9 or lone striker. Not a left sided player. That leaves the #10. He could probably do a false 9 type of role. United isnt set up to suit one though.
 
I dont have a problem getting him once the more urgent business is sorted. The problem is he'll be 100m for a player that doesnt suit our team, that doesnt solve any of our current problem positions. Fix all the gaps then improve the rest. That has to be the mentality. We have 5 starting 11 positions that are literally bottom half of the table level. Why work on the other positions that are decent at least? It's just dumb management and the whole reason we are in this mess now.

Anyone looking at our squad and thinks that Dybala is needed and not a right back, center back, center mid or right winger has no clue what they're doing. So yeah. If we can spend 400m and solve the other issues while getting him, whatever.
 
Even if we sign him, we'll play him out of position or stick him on the flank, will under perform and end up being another waste of money.
 
Another pointless signing. He’s not the force he was and he’s just a very difficult player to fit in tactically. Not a United type of player at all in our current situation.
 
Doubt we will get him even if we wanted him. Unless Di Marzio or the BBC report the deal is close, no point for me to engage in it.


Depends on how Ole wants to use him and the way we would set up, but he could fit in without an issue. The way we play at the moment, nobody is fitting in though.
 
A talent but if you don’t have a very specific plan for him will end up looking like a square peg in a round hole.

But like Bale he is up for sale and agent will be knocking on our door first, one of these would be easy to get so I’d imagine we’ll be all over it whether we how to play them or not.
 
Only way this works is if we're planning to play him centrally. If we're look at him as a RW, God help us.
 
Why is his stock so low with the cafe? I thought he was meant to be one of the top players in europe?
 
Genuine question - Who's the better player in your opinion, Dybala or Griezmann?

While they both share the same position and way of use to maximise their potential, centrally, meaning false 9 or second striker, Griezmann is clearly better. But Griezmann has that key position at club and country, which Dybala hasnt got. Dybala gets shafted around due to other players in NT and club, at the moment Messi and Ronaldo. Griezmann hasnt got that, he plays suited to him.
 
While they both share the same position and way of use to maximise their potential, centrally, meaning false 9 or second striker, Griezmann is clearly better. But Griezmann has that key position at club and country, which Dybala hasnt got. Dybala gets shafted around due to other players in NT and club, at the moment Messi and Ronaldo. Griezmann hasnt got that, he plays suited to him.

Dybala's got to be the unluckiest player in the world. Competing with Messi at the National level and with Ronaldo at club level, what can a guy do in those circumstances.:lol:
 
If we get him. We should play diamond formation. If we try to use Dybala
Genuine question - Who's the better player in your opinion, Dybala or Griezmann?
Griezmann, he is a leader in the attack. But Dybala has the potential to be as good as him, with the right set up, he could be an important player for us.