Paul Scholes | 2011/12 Performances

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Christing f*ck!

Have i ever mentioned he's my favorite footballer ever?

Scholes is a pure Manchester United player, and the best passer I've ever seen.
 
Goes to number 3 on the total appearances list, in the same week that Giggs breaks Maldini's record. Hope Scholes can get to 700 - he'd have to play on into next season to get there.
 
The ever excellent Michael Cox with another great piece in The Guardian about Scholes, Xavi and Pirlo

The Guardian said:
Paul Scholes, Xavi and Andrea Pirlo revive the deep-lying playmaker
The past weekend offered yet another chance to see three fabulous midfield technicians in their element

It was a fine weekend for legendary deep-lying playmakers. In Spain, Xavi Hernández of Barcelona curled in a wonderful free-kick at Sevilla to complement his stereotypical passing reliability. In Italy, Juventus' Andrea Pirlo was controlling the game in a comfortable win at Fiorentina, striding forward to score with a sublime chip. The next day, in England, Paul Scholes turned in another fine performance in Manchester United's destruction of Wolves.


The situation for Pirlo and Scholes was identical: both played their part in 5-0 victories away at a struggling side who had a man dismissed in the first half. The circumstances were perfect for both – neither Fiorentina nor Wolves are accustomed to pressing, and could not do so successfully when trailing in the game and facing a numerical deficit. It meant that Juventus and United had plenty of time deep in midfield, and both Pirlo and Scholes shone.


Granted, it was not a difficult game for either. Scholes barely broke into a sprint, while Pirlo did so only when he decided he fancied getting on the scoresheet. But it was a chance to see two fabulous technicians in their element – jogging around the centre circle, offering themselves for a short pass, then spreading the play out to the flanks, where their sides stretched the play and forced the 10 men to work harder. Pirlo completed 97% of his 143 passes, Scholes 98% of his 98. Xavi, the only man competing against 11 opponents and withdrawn before full-time, was down at 90% of 88.


Pirlo and Scholes had similar experiences this weekend, and similar experiences over the course of their careers. In the early part of their careers, both were considered a No10; an attacking midfielder or deep-lying forward. It is not unusual for players to move deeper as they lose their pace towards the end of their career, but that was not necessarily the case for either. Scholes never counted pace as a key attribute, and his attacking threat came from late runs into the box – more about timing than speed. Pirlo as a No10 was a calmer player, waiting for the ball to come to him before casually laying it off to a team-mate.


If pace was a factor, it was because the game became quicker, rather than these two becoming slower. Pirlo's retreat happened around the age of 22, when he enjoyed a successful spell on loan at Brescia under Carlo Mazzone. Roberto Baggio was the No10, so Pirlo had to play much deeper. When he was signed by Milan, Rui Costa and Clarence Seedorf had arrived the same summer, so Pirlo remained in that deep role. Scholes's move backwards was a more gradual process and happened 10 years later in his career, but had the same effect of revitalising his game.


Xavi is different – in basic terms he is a separate type of player, preferring constant neat short passes rather than the searching long diagonals that Pirlo and Scholes favour. Furthermore, his positional development was the opposite – he went from being the pivote in the Barcelona system to playing closer to goal. "They asked me to get up and down and provide assists," Xavi recalls in Graham Hunter's book Barça: The Making of the Greatest Team in the World. "But it's difficult from that [deep] position. Ten or 15 metres further up the pitch, where I play now, makes it much easier for me."


In different ways, those three have helped bring back the deep-lying role that briefly died. It is worth remembering that Pep Guardiola, whom Pirlo describes as "the model" for his position, whom Xavi pinpoints as "his idol", and who described Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation, was barely wanted when he left Barcelona at the age of 31 in 2001. As it happens, he turned up at Brescia, then searching for their Pirlo replacement – they were practically the only club in Europe that wanted a player in that mould in 2001.


While Xavi is at the heart of his club and national side, Scholes and Pirlo both found themselves out of contract last summer. Milan decided not to renew Pirlo's deal – and the player wanted a new challenge – while Scholes retired from the game to take up a loose coaching role at United. Both were free agents. Yet they have proven to be, in their respective leagues, the free signing of the season – Scholes rejoining United, Pirlo picked up by Juventus. "A player of his level and ability?" said an incredulous Gigi Buffon with a laugh. "He was the signing of the century."


They have proven even more effective than anticipated, and both are fulfilling roles that defy assumptions about their defensive weakness. Pirlo has been used even deeper than he is used to – generally not alongside a midfield terrier, as at Milan with Rino Gatusso, but instead on his own in front of the defence. Arturo Vidal and Claudio Marchisio play higher up and drive at the opposition, sometimes leaving Pirlo stranded in front of the defence – but he gets by with good positioning. Scholes does not even have the benefit of that energy higher up in midfield – United's passer-runner combination has been shelved in favour of a distribution-based duo of Scholes and Michael Carrick that allows United to control the tempo of the game.


That is the fascinating thing about these players – they need a calm, patient feel to the game, or they can be completely overrun. The difference between the almost-great players of this mould (Carrick, Riccardo Montolivo, Nestor Ortigoza) and Xavi, Pirlo and Scholes is that the former are forced to accept it is not their type of game, while the latter can actively create that type of game. That is extremely difficult against sides wanting to be powerful, energetic and chaotic – it is easier to hijack a meditation session and turn it into a rave than vice-versa.


That fits the image of these players off the pitch – not quite meditation fans, but quiet and extremely shy. "I restrict myself to the dressing room and to the pitch, those are my boundaries – I'm not interested in anything else, I don't like doing interviews, I don't like going on TV programmes, I don't have a Facebook page and I don't talk on Twitter." It is Pirlo talking, in an interview for La Stampa, but it could so easily be Scholes. Xavi, on the other hand, is content to spend his spare time picking mushrooms.


Despite the universal plaudits that came Scholes's way when he announced his retirement last year, he has won much fewer individual awards than his Italian and Spanish equivalents. Pirlo was man of the match in the 2006 World Cup final and won the Bronze Ball in the tournament, while Xavi has come third in the Ballon d'Or three times, and was Euro 2008's Player of the Tournament.


Scholes's lack of individual recognition hints at a lesser influence on the grandest stage, and it is not a huge surprise that he cannot boast of such awards. It is a shock, however, to discover that he has not received a single vote in the Ballon d'Or in his entire career. On five occasions he made the 50-man shortlist – 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2007 – yet not a single journalist decided to vote for him. Granted, he may not deserve to have been in the top five in any particular year, but when you learn that players of the calibre of Jan Koller, Papa Bouba Diop and Freddie Kanouté have received votes, you do start to wonder.


There is still time. Xavi and Pirlo are now as influential as ever, and the same may be true for Scholes. Sir Alex Ferguson has dismissed the chances of him playing at Euro 2012, but there is still unfinished business for Scholes at that level. "I'm not saying I would have made a difference," he said after turning down Fabio Capello's invitation to play at World Cup 2010. "I am saying I might have made the wrong decision." Some will doubt Scholes's ability to come out of retirement and have a crucial impact, but he has already done it once in 2012.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/19/paul-scholes-xavi-andrea-pirlo-playmaker
 
Wonderful article, usually is when Michael Cox is involved.
 
That was a great read.

England's midfield should be Scholes - Carrick. Everyone knows that.
 
Great article written by someone who truly understands football
edit: "Pirlo completed 97% of his 143 passes, Scholes 98% of his 98. Xavi, the only man competing against 11 opponents and withdrawn before full-time, was down at 90% of 88."
:lol: that's insane by the three players
 
603 - Paul Scholes has made 603 passes in 604 minutes of Premier League action for Manchester United this season. Regular.
 
He's one of the main reasons we struggled in Europe this year imo. We crash out before he comes back. He returns, we knock out Ajax with him playing in both games. Then he doesn't play in either Bilbao game and we get dominated. Not saying if he played we'd have gone through but there is just nobody better if you want ball retention and control. Hope he carries on next season.
 
gooDevil said:
He's been as crucial as anyone in our chasing down and passing of City. Another fantastic performance.
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I think the statistics would point to him actually being the catalyst for us keeping pace and then overtaking them.
 
i only counted one misplaced pass tonight. i don't know how accurate this is, but what a fecking player! to think some people have the nerves to mention the likes of Gerrard and Lampard in the same breath...
 
Very very important. Compliments carrick very well. The best in the world at switching play out wide.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I think the statistics would point to him actually being the catalyst for us keeping pace and then overtaking them.
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Premiere League Games Scholes Started:

W [3-0] v Bolton
W [2-0] v Stoke
W [2-1] v Liverpool
W [2-1] @ Norwich
W [3-1] @ Tottenham
W [2-0] v WBA
W [5-0] @ Wolves
W [1-0] v Fulham
W [2-0] @ Blackburn


What can you say?

Charlie Sheen is the Paul Scholes of druggies.

 
Skholesy said:
He should retire again so we can bring him back again. I think he's come back this second half of the season looking sharper than he did all of last season.
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Yep. A 6 month odd break and he's fresh as a daisy. I really feel like we should just give him 5 months off and get him back for next January once the seasons done.
 
We wouldn't be top without him. I couldn't believe there were Utd fans unhappy/unsure about his return. An absolute joy to watch the man play football.
 
Even when he's not playing incredible passes, he's so important. It's crucial to have someone you can play the ball to time and time again - he's nearly always available in space which helps us keep the ball and maintain the flow of our attacks.
 
Getting more and more into passing it greater distances too... Just a smidgeon too little power on a couple of long diagonals, otherwise near-impeccable.

Love watching him play.
 
Another good performance from Scholesy. btw, that elbow he got should have been red card.
 
It's April. We're away. We need 3 points against a team that we've tradionally strugged to get points from.

Up steps Scholes and Giggs to get the job done.

It's sad in a way that we need to rely on golden legends and not the young players we've paid and groomed for the job but it shows what experience and class is all about.
 
Devilton said:
It's April. We're away. We need 3 points against a team that we've tradionally strugged to get points from.

Up steps Scholes and Giggs to get the job done.

It's sad in a way that we need to rely on golden legends and not the young players we've paid and groomed for the job but it shows what experience and class is all about.
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Not really, once again they're both good enough to still be playing at the top regardless of age. If we didn't have them then I would expect us to have two other experienced players in the squad, capable of turning matches. That's what separates the top teams, having players who can do that.
 
Devilton said:
It's April. We're away. We need 3 points against a team that we've tradionally strugged to get points from.

Up steps Scholes and Giggs to get the job done.

It's sad in a way that we need to rely on golden legends and not the young players we've paid and groomed for the job but it shows what experience and class is all about.
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What exactly were Young and Valencia doing then?
 
Disgusting elbow on him by Hanley I think it was :mad:

Should be treason to attack Scholes like that :devil:
 
Devilton said:
It's April. We're away. We need 3 points against a team that we've tradionally strugged to get points from.

Up steps Scholes and Giggs to get the job done.

It's sad in a way that we need to rely on golden legends and not the young players we've paid and groomed for the job but it shows what experience and class is all about.
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We also relied on De Gea, Valencia and Rooney
 
Scholes tackle today was perfect!

Howard Webb got it wrong imo.
 
Wittmann45 said:
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I thought Webb was going to prove Scholes right by showing him a yellow for that
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Wasn't a foul but he probably deserved a card for the dissent. I think Webb was getting the card out until Rooney and someone else stood infront and tried to diffuse the situation. Scholes knew how much that freekick could have meant though.
 
Devilton said:
It's April. We're away. We need 3 points against a team that we've tradionally strugged to get points from.

Up steps Scholes and Giggs to get the job done.

It's sad in a way that we need to rely on golden legends and not the young players we've paid and groomed for the job but it shows what experience and class is all about.[/]

How come it's sad?!! We should be blessed!!! With them in the team, the young ones learn more and better. As long as the older players deliver, it's always brilliant.
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Devilton said:
It's April. We're away. We need 3 points against a team that we've tradionally strugged to get points from.

Up steps Scholes and Giggs to get the job done.

It's sad in a way that we need to rely on golden legends and not the young players we've paid and groomed for the job but it shows what experience and class is all about.
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How come it's sad?!! We are blessed!!! With them in the team, the young ones learn more and better. As long as the older players deliver, it's always brilliant.
 
Ferguson doesn't like January signings but this young ginger haired kid is a revelation.
 
Yeah elbowed him and then Scholesy gets the ball cleanly on the other end and that supposed ref that is in our pocket gives a foul against him.
 
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