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Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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I do think he'll improve us of course. My point about the marketing is the fee involved has to involve some kind of payback, United see him as very very marketable. I'm just not convinced he's going to improve us to the extent that most on here are. It's really really bizarre the reactions on here.
Pogba really isn't all that. He's a young player with a lot to prove. Posters on here are comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo just because of the fee! It's kind of mad. The abuse I'm getting for questioning his likely impact is astounding. People seem convinced he's going to stroll into the team and transform it, he won't, he'll improve us yes but guys get real. Reign in your expectations.
Nothing will happen wirth this today, the Italians are all in Church and the English are all bloated out on the couch sleeping off last night's booze and their Sunday lunch.
Can't speak for our Italian brothers but the English assessment is pretty much spot on.
Where has he been compared to Messi and Ronaldo?
Nowhere. And to say that Pogba "isn't all that", well that's just plain wrong.
Feel the same way. We are paying double to what he is actually worth.
I find it a bit odd how people don't see that we're paying exactly what we should be expecting to pay for Paul Pogba in 2016.
Earlier on in the thread. People saying there will be a big three not just a big two. The fee creates that kind of chatter.
These same people probably think £30m buys you world class, first XI talent (with no injury or something else to artificially bring the fee down) still.
The fee doesn't surprise me. The level of expectation around Pogba blows my mind though. I just don't see him delivering against people's expectations. I do see him delivering as a 'brand asset'.
Well hopefully you'll end up being pleasantly surprised.
Yes. Hopefully I will. I've said that from the outset.
We're buying one of the best young midfielders in the world from a huge club with a rich tradition that doesn't want to sell him since he's their star man. 100M is not exaggerated at all for such a player in 2016. That's the state of the modern transfer market. Keep up.
It's the same with every transfer we ever make though, people overrate signings to the extreme, only to be disappointed. It's not unique to Pogba.
I think Pogba will match people expectations, eventually, but he won't be winning games on his own from his debut, and I see no problem with that.
I agree with the part in bold but the rest I think you went OTT. The expectation will be huge on him because of the fee. He'll take time to adapt to a new team, system and a league. I just hope fans (don't give a feck about opposition fans who will criticize him unfairly from the go) will be patient with him when he probably won't hit top level quickly.
Earlier in the thread he's being compared to the 'big two'. Not directly but as a world star who is moving for a record fee. My point is expectations are already out of control. He's not going to transform us, he'll improve us. And in that sense he isn't all that.
The price quoted seems about right. He's a proper superstar footballer, and by superstar I'm talking more than what you get on the pitch. Terrific player that will only improve of course, by you also get image and marketing, someone whose face you can slap on a piece of merchandise along with our crest and people will buy it in droves.
At his age, and the mileage we'll get out of him, we could be saying £100m was a bargain in years to come. He'll be the face of the club, the face of Adidas, we get bigger and better commercial deals just by virtue of this guy being at our club. You may not like it but that's the reality of our club, and modern football as a whole really.
At his age, and the mileage we'll get out of him, we could be saying £100m was a bargain in years to come. He'll be the face of the club, the face of Adidas, we get bigger and better commercial deals just by virtue of this guy being at our club. You may not like it but that's the reality of our club, and modern football as a whole really.
How can people say we are paying double what he is worth? A player is only worth, what a paying club is willing to spend.
Rory 7 instead of talking about other people's reactions to your post (don't think any we're OTT or "abusive" as you tried to say) perhaps you might consider that you've expressed the same viewpoint ("I don't want Pogba") constantly throughout this thread but used bizarre, weak and shifting logic to back it up. Perhaps you're actually wrong and maybe 1, Pogba will improve us a great deal, 2, He will be immensely marketable for the club and 3, he will cost the same to us relatively as the likes of Veron and Rio. Finally Jose clearly sees him as the right man.
Can you not see now why "seems he's being signed for marketing reasons rather than football" deserves to be called out as nonsense?
Last suggestion Rory dear chap, try to reply to this without saying something like "omg look at the reaction to my innocent little post, chill out guys"
Can you not see now why "seems he's being signed for marketing reasons rather than football" deserves to be called out as nonsense?
Last suggestion Rory dear chap, try to reply to this without saying something like "omg look at the reaction to my innocent little post, chill out guys"
165 posts of pretty much repeating the same things he has. Rory, you're just talking shit mate.
No one has compared him directly to Messi and Ronaldo in terms of current skill or worth. PPOR
this is what marriage feels like after you blow that first wad...eh.
What a really really bizarre reaction. I'm astounded by this post. It blows my mind.Rory 7 instead of talking about other people's reactions to your post (don't think any we're OTT or "abusive" as you tried to say) perhaps you might consider that you've expressed the same viewpoint ("I don't want Pogba") constantly throughout this thread but used bizarre, weak and shifting logic to back it up. Perhaps you're actually wrong and maybe 1, Pogba will improve us a great deal, 2, He will be immensely marketable for the club and 3, he will cost the same to us relatively as the likes of Veron and Rio. Finally Jose clearly sees him as the right man.
Can you not see now why "seems he's being signed for marketing reasons rather than football" deserves to be called out as nonsense?
Last suggestion Rory dear chap, try to reply to this without saying something like "omg look at the reaction to my innocent little post, chill out guys"
Rory 7 instead of talking about other people's reactions to your post (don't think any we're OTT or "abusive" as you tried to say) perhaps you might consider that you've expressed the same viewpoint ("I don't want Pogba") constantly throughout this thread but used bizarre, weak and shifting logic to back it up. Perhaps you're actually wrong and maybe 1, Pogba will improve us a great deal, 2, He will be immensely marketable for the club and 3, he will cost the same to us relatively as the likes of Veron and Rio. Finally Jose clearly sees him as the right man.
Can you not see now why "seems he's being signed for marketing reasons rather than football" deserves to be called out as nonsense?
Last suggestion Rory dear chap, try to reply to this without saying something like "omg look at the reaction to my innocent little post, chill out guys"
I've already said that (the highlighted part) but I don't agree he will improve us immensely. And as soon as I suggest this i get a barrage of replies claiming I'm talking nonsense or calling me a melt. I'm just amazed how confident you all are in this guys ability to transform us.
Most of your posts blow my mind. Blind faith is a dangerous thing.
You will find you're utterly unable to find any post indicating my blind faith in Pogba. That's all in your mind. You're confusing positivity with blind faith.
I think there is 855 pages of people talking shit. So me adding to the shit hardly matters does it?
he won't transform us. but we are getting a world class player in a position we've desperately lacked for over 5 years.
You will find you over react ANY time a poster questions his likely impact. Like for example any time I've tried to reign in expectations.
that's the spirit!
A potentially world class player.
Went to an adidas store today. This lad's face was plastered all over in the football section, even more than Messi.
he was voted on the World XI team. so, technically, he's world class. but I get your point.
Again, pure nonsense. I have done no such thing, not even a single time, let alone any time.
He's been the most talked about player for about two months now. adidas aren't stupid.
We have to. Thanks to Moyes and then Van Gaal, our stock is much lower than it was under Sir Alex. We simply can't offer £50m and lesser wages because Real Madrid or Bayern will swan in and pay £60m and bag him.
We have to pay over the odds to lure a player who has CL football guaranteed and an extremely likely chance of winning the league again where he is.
Some people really don't seem to understand this.
Indeed. It's far easier to build from a position of strength than where we are now.
We need to get back to that position and signings like this one (assuming it completes), and other we've made this summer, will help.