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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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Rory 7 said:
I do think he'll improve us of course. My point about the marketing is the fee involved has to involve some kind of payback, United see him as very very marketable. I'm just not convinced he's going to improve us to the extent that most on here are. It's really really bizarre the reactions on here.

Pogba really isn't all that. He's a young player with a lot to prove. Posters on here are comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo just because of the fee! It's kind of mad. The abuse I'm getting for questioning his likely impact is astounding. People seem convinced he's going to stroll into the team and transform it, he won't, he'll improve us yes but guys get real. Reign in your expectations.
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ghagua said:
Feel the same way. We are paying double to what he is actually worth.
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Finally, glad to hear the other side of it as well.

If Pogba doesn't do the tricks, is unable to be more influential in the big games, then there will be a massive outcry since the fee is a world record. Each and every step of his will be analyzed.

Plus imagine the situation where Jose benches him, how there will be a massive backlash in the media, between the fans of United itself, the dressing room etc.

This deal in my opinion brings in more risks than good investment. God forbid if Pogba suffers an injury, then all the excuses will start flowing out about how we would have challenged for trophies if he was still available.

i will be honest, i think he is a very good player but with the amount of money being spent, next season cannot be trophy less and there has to be a title ideally.
 
EricaNo7 said:
I don't understand the hate - he's been a wonderful player for us
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Probably due ot the talk of leaving years ago. Rooney is a strange one for me as he has been one of our best players yeqar in year out and will probably break lots of records but he never became the player he should have when we signed him. I hear him saying he is a better player now, he may be a more intelligent and experienced one but nowhere near the talent he was let alone should have become. Not just the burst of pace, his touch, shooting, so many things have gone backwards substantially.

For me Rooney should have been up there with Messi and Ronaldo.....he is no where near that level, that is what saddens me with him, even though he has still been a very very good player for us.
 
VanGaalEra said:
Yeah but your shit is annoying shit.
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Because my shit doesn't conform to the group think going on here, the herd mentality of all the guys talking about getting their cocks out and jizzing themselves over Paul Pogba? Yeah. You're right. My views on this transfer are very annoying for folks like that.
 
Ainu said:
Again, pure nonsense. I have done no such thing, not even a single time, let alone any time.
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What do you call these types of reactions then?

Ainu said:
We're buying one of the best young midfielders in the world from a huge club with a rich tradition that doesn't want to sell him since he's their star man. 100M is not exaggerated at all for such a player in 2016. That's the state of the modern transfer market. Keep up.
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Ainu said:
What a really really bizarre reaction. I'm astounded by this post. It blows my mind.
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I call it taking the piss and over-reacting to me simply putting forward an alternative view to the Pogba transfer. Its an alternative view. Not once have I belittled posters that are championing this transfer, not once. But your reaction to my alternative view is to over-react and pull the piss. Maybe the points I am raising are striking a few nerves. Maybe they aren't. Either way I don't give a toss anymore. This is a done deal. I hope he delivers for us in the way most posters on this thread are saying he will. Clearly I don't think he will.
 
Leave Rory alone!

Honestly though Rory he's a huge signing for us. Whether or not he (currently) has the world class quality needed to 'transform' us is different but the fact of the matter is he's exactly the type of midfielder we really do need.
 
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Rory 7 said:
What do you call these types of reactions then?





I call it taking the piss and over-reacting to me simply putting forward an alternative view to the Pogba transfer. Its an alternative view. Not once have I belittled posters that are championing this transfer, not once. But your reaction to my alternative view is to over-react and pull the piss. Maybe the points I am raising are striking a few nerves. Maybe they aren't. Either way I don't give a toss anymore. This is a done deal. I hope he delivers for us in the way most posters on this thread are saying he will. Clearly I don't think he will.
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Overpriced perhaps, that's another debate.

But he will work out, if he doesn't we're fecked.

We're buying the best, there's no shame in that.
 
Rory 7 said:
What do you call these types of reactions then?





I call it taking the piss and over-reacting to me simply putting forward an alternative view to the Pogba transfer. Its an alternative view. Not once have I belittled posters that are championing this transfer, not once. But your reaction to my alternative view is to over-react and pull the piss. Maybe the points I am raising are striking a few nerves. Maybe they aren't. Either way I don't give a toss anymore. This is a done deal. I hope he delivers for us in the way most posters on this thread are saying he will. Clearly I don't think he will.
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That first one wasn't directed only at you but several posters who argued against the transfer fee. It doesn't say anything about my confidence about how he'll perform here. The second one is admittedly me taking the piss out of your reactions, which I consider over the top. I literally used the same phrases you used, word for word, in earlier posts. You call that post over the top so you indirectly agree yours were too. ;) In any case those posts hardly constitute me over-reacting to "ANY" poster who questions Pogba's impact.

I have no problems with your opinion, rather with the manner in which you are delivering it. I myself do not blindly believe Pogba will be a success here and I have concerns about what role he'll get in our midfield. I will be disappointed but not shocked if he underperforms here, but I think he has the talent to succeed. Most of all I'm glad that the club are willing to show the ambition and attract one of the most sought after young midfielders in the world.
 
Oh good. We're still discussing at which point of the "world class" stage Pogba is at, and it seems to be between "not quite" and "just about". Pepper in a few "overrated"s and we're back to where we were a month ago. When do the Euros start?
 
LennonNL said:
Leave Rory alone!

Honestly though Rory he's a huge signing for us. Whether or not he (currently) has the world class quality needed to 'transform' us is different but the fact of the matter is he's exactly the type of midfielder we really do need.
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Of course he's a huge signing for us @LennonNL, that is not in dispute. My issue is with the style of player he is and I don't agree with the view that he's exactly what we need. As I say, this is just my view. Can't understand why I'm being slated for that view. This all kicked off this morning when I prompted a discussion on his marketability. I think the 'brand' Pogba is a huge part of the attraction for United, I really do. I think even for United to hold the world record transfer fee is important for 'brand' United. I guess I'm just not convinced he's the right player for us in footballing terms. Am more than happy to be proved wrong.
 
Ainu said:
That first one wasn't directed only at you but several posters who argued against the transfer fee. It doesn't say anything about my confidence about how he'll perform here. The second one is admittedly me taking the piss out of your reactions, which I consider over the top. I literally used the same phrases you used, word for word, in earlier posts. You call that post over the top so you indirectly agree yours were too. ;) In any case those posts hardly constitute me over-reacting to "ANY" poster who questions Pogba's impact.

I have no problems with your opinion, rather with the manner in which you are delivering it. I myself do not blindly believe Pogba will be a success here and I have concerns about what role he'll get in our midfield. I will be disappointed but not shocked if he underperforms here, but I think he has the talent to succeed. Most of all I'm glad that the club are willing to show the ambition and attract one of the most sought after young midfielders in the world.
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We agree on that then. I fail to see how the 'manner' in which I've delivered my opinion should cause such a reaction. Seems to me its only prompts this kind of reaction amongst those who are blindly believing the hype; a marketeers dream. A masterstroke by Woody.
 
Rory 7 said:
Earlier in the thread he's being compared to the 'big two'. Not directly but as a world star who is moving for a record fee. My point is expectations are already out of control. He's not going to transform us, he'll improve us. And in that sense he isn't all that.
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Well, that he is.
 
If this is done by Wednesday when I'm at OT I may well have to get his shirt from the megastore
 
While I found the fee amusing when it was first hurled around, I have now come around to the reality that players of the highest caliber, or those expected to reach there soon, do now cost these phenomenal fees. Pogba's natural talent does indicate that he could over the next couple of years hit that sort of level. At the same time, I've not been overly impressed by certain aspects of his game when I have watched him, even if the sample size is small. The main complaint would be that he fades out of games rather than taking charge of them. But then again, that's what we've got one of the games most successful managers for - to take this top talent who is already a quality player, to the next level.

One thing I would say about Pogba is that he never strikes me as a central midfielder. He seems rather uncomfortable and ungraceful doing the things central midfielders do in areas that they do them. He's an attacking midfielder for me. And that's how he should be used. His strengths appear to be his creativity, shooting, touch, skillfulness and strength, all of which suggest a player, whether called a midfielder or an attacker, who is given the license to roam/create/bomb forward/shoot from range/try crazy shit, rather than one of the midfield two. I'd play two more responsible CMs who are comfortable in deeper areas behind/alongside him.
 
SirAF said:
Yeah it will be, but that goes with the territory. Everything points to Pogba being a guy who will thrive on the attention.
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He certainly seems like the type who loves attention yes, that's for sure. I'm just not convinced by him though. I honestly don't know what his best position is and I don't think he does either.
 
Rory 7 said:
He certainly seems like the type who loves attention yes, that's for sure. I'm just not convinced by him though. I honestly don't know what his best position is and I don't think he does either.
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Wait you're not convinced by Pogba?
 
Rory 7 said:
Agreed. We are buying potential. Amazing really for a world record fee and for a player who we knew all about his potential four years ago. A funny old game.
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No, we're buying a top player who's very close to becoming one of the best.
 
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