Just think though Jose can tell all prospective signings what a scumbag club Madrid is, he knows there inner workings, so after Jose has had a word in Pauls ear, any notion of joining Real would be put to bed ( hopefully ).
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No one is guaranteed any starts. But do you think that Jose will start the season with Rooney on bench, when he cleared that Rooney is the captain and Rooney himself told the world that Jose has asked him to play No 10 and he is training only in that position.
One article from Marca or AS turns this place into an online version of Cornation Street. This is a done deal weeks ago. If this wasn't going ahead we would have moved onto other targets. You'd see us linked to other players, making bids etc. Do any of you see that? No. Why? Because we basically have Pogba wrapped up. We will possibly sign another defender and maybe a 'surprise' signing, but other than that it's all Pogba. World record bids are not done fast. A club like Juve will always try and save face for the fans. They are spending the Pogba money all over the place and a lot of muppets in here are still getting their knickers in a twist 
Real won't pay the money, we will. No player is going to turn down that kind of prestige, especially someone like Pogba. I'll come back to this thread once it's more or less official. The muppet is strong here the last 80-100 pages. Chill.
Real won't pay the money, we will. No player is going to turn down that kind of prestige, especially someone like Pogba. I'll come back to this thread once it's more or less official. The muppet is strong here the last 80-100 pages. Chill.
What has become almost a certainty is that if we don't sign Pogba it will be near impossible for us to sign a good midfielder this summer as most have moved on already: Pjanic, Sanches, Gomes, Kante, basically all the ones we have been linked with and we'd consider as a good addition have moved on to other clubs already so if we don't get Pogba we will basically be left empty handed in a key area we needed to strenghten. Not to mention we will look like giant knobheads with egg on our face all over again after all the Pogba boasting.
If we don't sign him at this point it will be a disaster for us
If we don't sign him at this point it will be a disaster for us
I'm using one of my five posts to congratulate whichever Mod has updated the threads title
I'd imagine this will be Jose starting XI for the start of the season:
------------------DDG----------------------
Valencia----Bailly----Smalling-----Shaw
-------Schneiderlin-----Pogba-----------
Mkhitaryan----Rooney-------Martial----
--------------Ibrahimovic---------------
A disaster? Are you kidding? A disaster would be getting relegated, or our entire squad disappearing through a black hole (actually I wouldn't mind half of them disappearing tbf), or the club going backrupt, or rehiring David Moyes, or hiring Louis van Gaal, or hiring Brendan Rodgers.
Not managing to sign a player who would cost us at least €120m wouldn't be a disaster, for feck sake.
Rooney, Schneiderlin and Valencia the weak links there.
I'm hopeful Mourinho will get a lot more out of Schneiderlin.....
Need an experienced CB as well
Agreed.
Pogba left because he couldn't get in the team. He has a point to prove, has family in the area, friends who he played with from a young age, he's going to triple his wages alongside all of the other benefits of playing for one of the globes biggest clubs under arguably the best manager of his era with a project that's designed to make this club one of the most competitive in Europe again! Not only all of that but United backtracking proved him right all along and he will undoubtedly be the highest profile player in the team and possibly the face of United for years to come.
At Madrid he's just another galactico who isn't guaranteed a starting place who it has been widely reported don't rate him as highly as we do anyway.
I know what decision I would make, United fan or not.
Are some of you totally clueless about business and deals in particular?
How much proof do you need to calm down. Let me tell you.
- silence since agent left Turin from all involved parties after weeks of media talks and speculations
- agent and client spend holyday together in Miami
- our CEO heading to China and then back to UK with a big smile on his face
- Juventus tries to sign a 28 year old ex Real Madrid player for nearly €100m
- Spanish papers writing totally crazy rumors about secret talks (and some of you believe this)
- Mourinho is calm as an ice cube and in no hurry to sign other targets (explain that)
- all reliable journos, serious Italian/French/English newspaper says is a done deal
- a minority of Redcafe is having a nervous meltdown and some poster starts to resign
Thanks for getting an old man upset and irritated, my heart needed that.
How much proof do you need to calm down. Let me tell you.
- silence since agent left Turin from all involved parties after weeks of media talks and speculations
- agent and client spend holyday together in Miami
- our CEO heading to China and then back to UK with a big smile on his face
- Juventus tries to sign a 28 year old ex Real Madrid player for nearly €100m
- Spanish papers writing totally crazy rumors about secret talks (and some of you believe this)
- Mourinho is calm as an ice cube and in no hurry to sign other targets (explain that)
- all reliable journos, serious Italian/French/English newspaper says is a done deal
- a minority of Redcafe is having a nervous meltdown and some poster starts to resign
Thanks for getting an old man upset and irritated, my heart needed that.
An enticing project? An enticing paycheck really. Coming to United because Madrid is not an option is not really what I want to hear.
Why are people posting in a thread to say that they're bored of the thread?
If he sees toni as our best right back over darmian then he must be in the market for another one. He was good as a makeshift, but he just isn't as good as we require defensively, and we all know Jose likes defence.
If it does not happen , so we tried to sign a WC player for a WR fee and did did not come off, just how would that be a disaster?
The boasting has all been on here , Jose and the club have not boated anything, both of said they would like the player at the right price.
It wouldn't have been a disaster not to get Pogba at the start of the summer but after verything that has transpired not getting him would be very humiliating for the club.
On top of that as I said in my post, there really aren't any viable alternatives left on the market, we have let them all go to other clubs whilst betting all our money on Pogba if we don't get him now we will be starting the season with a shite midfield whilst our most important competitors will have strenghtend theirs, City with Gundogan, Chelsea with Kante, Arsenal with Xhaka. I don't see who is left on the market United can sign if we don't get Pogba.
Well that seals it then doesn't it.
Next time Ed laughs it clearly means we've signed Neymar.
And all over the media
Would it be enough though? Obviously LVG was poor at getting much out of Schneiderlin, but that's no excuse for not being able to pass from A to B across the pitch. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for our starting 11.
25,000 posts of nothing! :-)
Seriously, get a grip. Not getting him because Juve have been unreasonable on the fee or Raiola's fee is too enormous or Pogba has changed his mind is in no way a disaster or humiliating for us.
Your logic is mental. "oh it wouldn't have been a disaster if we never never for him, but because we did, now it's a disaster"
There is no random story I'm responding to what TrustInJanuzai said - that's why I quoted him as such - "If he had the option to go to Madrid I think he might choose them but that option doesn't exist".
I honestly wouldn't let anything you read in this thread get you irritated or upset.
The reality is that real is a big club with a large pull, however so are we so you have to get out of this inferior thinking.
You guys really had 25,000 posts for a transfer thread? feck me.
This settles it for me, there is no other explanation one man can have a big smile on his face in some random picture.
But the banks do. Spanish banks are not at their best. They have no reason to loan to Real for a transfer fee, there is plenty of more profitable business to do.
This is the current state of Spanish banks.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/loan-growth-suffers-at-spanish-banks-1447366075
Now coupled with some other news on the European front for Spanish football clubs under EC investigation:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-2401_en.htm
And now if that guarantee provided by the banks for the transfer fees was tax payer money...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/real-madrid-face-european-investigation-7394092
In short, yes Real needs political pressure to get those loans/guarantees, and right now, it's not the moment to ask for one. So they need to provide the cash themselves.
I wait for a confirmation from @carvajal of course.
No keep chasing the impossible and not being able to land these big deals that is humiliating. Vidal, Ramos, Hazard, the list just keeps growing for us if we don't see this one through.
United shouldn't chew off more than they can bite. Nothing humiliating about being realistic and saying if we can't get Pogba now we shouldn't waste our time on it. But if you drag everyone and everything back in such a saga again, you have to be certain you can see it through to the end.
They don't need spanish banks though, they have access to all the banks.
Slow news day today considering this deal was 'done' yesterday. Looks like people are running out of things to make up.
He was pretty strong and efficient for Southampton before we signed him.... i think he would work well as a defensive shield behind a more box to box player and a 10 - few stats on his previous season in the link here
http://www.thinkfootball.co.uk/five...ited-wont-give-up-on-pursuit-of-schneiderlin/
Would swap him for a Kroos in a heartbeat though
I agree! Maybe I have to much time in the sun.
Regarding topic I hope Mourinho prefers a 433 formation with Pogg in the front of our midfield. I don't like this 4231 formation with Roo in the middle, makes me uncomfortable.
Cant believe this is still on going, i would wait to they confirm the Higuain deal and then say heres our final offer and you have 48 hours, dont believe they will be funding that deal without the Pogba sale, if they dont want the deal then lets move on and get someone else in.
There's nothing impossible about Pogba, it's just crazy money for a footballer, and very complex.
It's unreal the moaning from people like you.
"Oh we never target top players"
"Oh feck sake how humiliating going for a top player and not getting him!"
Who? Hsbc? Deutsche Bank? Bank of America? Goldman Sachs? Truth is, I don't think so... Business 101 is that you deal locally to get a better deal. Those banks above would rip them off because they only see the business relationship, nothing more. We'll see if Real can pull another big transfer on its own but it's unlikely for me, given all the above.
I would just add him to a long list of players who look good for a mid table club but can't hack it at the top level. I can't see anything about his game that shows me he could be decisive at the top level and we have far too many "solid" or ""reliable" players. He's a box to box player but at our level you need a really skilful player with the ability to break through defences in that position IMO. I don't think he's a number 6 either.
Ah cheers. Awesome city. Lovely people. When there make sure you check out the Royal Palace and try some oreja whilst you're at it
But it's the Spanish banks that give them the favourable terms. No other football clubs do this because no other clubs can leverage the preferential treatment that Real get from the Spanish banks. Even with our revenue we can't get the terms that they get.