I don't think the club is going to pay 100m for another midfielder. Pogba is a top class player already, and he has the potential to be world class very soon - however, he is also unique in the sense that he is the type of player that can be the face of the club marketing wise.
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I don't think the club is going to pay 100m for another midfielder. Pogba is a top class player already, and he has the potential to be world class very soon - however, he is also unique in the sense that he is the type of player that can be the face of the club marketing wise.
Don't know, mate, there is a lot of confusing information. All these journalists are fecktards.
I can't fecking wait for August 7th. I hate the transfer window.
I am not saying that the club is going to spend a 100m on another midfielder. I am saying that with a 100m available there are other midfielders we can find and not restrict ourselves to Matuidi, as the other poster eluded.
Manchester United can make any face a marketing juggernaut. We are the brand, not Pogba or anyone else.
Genuine question - what makes people think that Pogba is one of the more recognizable and marketable players in world football? Is there any truth to it or are people making it up to justify their muppet needs?
I mean that, up to now, he has claimed or leaked that we are in for several marquee players like Neymar, Bale, Vidal, Ramos, Ronaldo, Messi but not signed one of them. Hopefully this will be the one where he gets it right.Eh?
His skills, long shots ("Pogboom") and like it or not his hairstyle and the swaggerish way he carries himself are all a part of it. He also got a big presence in social media. Then you also have the spin of him returning to his old club as a super star.
4th place didnt happen then?
Recycled rubbish
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This is serious business, I check the Caf at work too during these times
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Adidas has chosen to run campaigns with Pogba as their icon. That's the football equivalent of a model being on the cover of vogue (or whichever one is the biggest fashion magazine)
Agree with this. I think Juve want to get Higuian tied up before it is announced.
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This is like when someone says they will be there in 5 minutes and then 5 minutes later they say they will be there in 5 minutes and then they never show up because they were sitting on their arse the whole time.
Is he just saying that as he was sacked by Sky a few years ago, or is Sky Italia a different company?
Fair enough.
Still think United can make any top player marketable. Rooney has consistently been one of the most marketable players on the planet despite being mediocre for 4 years.
I read it as him basically saying they're rubbish and/or unreliable.
Yeah, but I'd say that's down to being great from the beginning. When a reputation has been established, it takes a hell of a lot for it to fade. Ronaldinho only delivered 3 or 4 top class seasons but his brand is still strong.
Which is pretty much no different to how we view them to be fair.
What a mug he has too
His release clause was structured that way. There was a "deadline" until the end of July too, if my memory serves me well.
Napoli wanted to propose a lower release clause for foreign clubs in a new contract and no clause for Italian clubs but then, Juventus would never have been able to activate the clause. Basically, it was a now or never situation I think.
Okay, here's a question.
We are preparing a World Record Transfer Fee (WRTF) for Pogba.
For me, a WRTF signing should mean that the club become instant favourites to win the title. I feel that this is not the case with Pogba.
So, my question: if you were Jose and Woodward stated that we have unlimited funds and that we must break the WRTF this Summer. Which (attainable) player would you ask to be signed?
Remember, this has to be a realistic signing, so Neymar (who has just signed a new contract) cannot be included).
We are preparing a World Record Transfer Fee (WRTF) for Pogba.
For me, a WRTF signing should mean that the club become instant favourites to win the title. I feel that this is not the case with Pogba.
So, my question: if you were Jose and Woodward stated that we have unlimited funds and that we must break the WRTF this Summer. Which (attainable) player would you ask to be signed?
Remember, this has to be a realistic signing, so Neymar (who has just signed a new contract) cannot be included).
Rooney benefitted from United's marketing power but he was already on his way to being England's poster boy before we bought him. Again, Rooney's huge transfer fee at the time would have been partly justified by his potential marketability.
Like Pogba, Rooney had a few angles working for him in terms of media image. United can help maximize that but you stil need the basic elements - in Rooneys case it was his white Pele, street footballer thing, for Pogba it's some ostentatious swag thing.
It was written in the contract that a team can pay in two equal installments? Sounds weird, but the reports of 47m now and 47m next season would make sense then.
Pogba alone won't solve our problems. He is used to having top players around him. Even if you take Pogba out of Juventus. They still have a better centre midfield than us.
Carrick/Schweinsteiger - Old/no legs injury prone. Herrera/Schneiderlin are promising but are no where near top level yet.
I think for Pogba to do well. We would need Kroos/Matuidi also. You could argue that buying Kroos & Matuidi is better option.
Pogba is not a Luka Modric the type of player that will dictate play he is someone who needs to be as forward as possible to be effective.
If you look at the players Pogba had around (Pirlo, Vidal & Marchisio) him in the 4 years he has been a Juventus and look at what they have no now compared to our current Central midfield the gulf is huge.
Pjanić was my number no.1 target this summer. Disappointed we didn't move for him.
Not saying I would not sign Pogba I still would but I think he needs a proper partner to truly thrive. We have too many squad/peripheral players, that extend beyond just the midfield.
I don't see the likes of Young, Lingard, Jones, Rojo, Valencia & Memphis setting the world alight for us. We know what most of them are capable of few of them should have been shipped years ago.
Carrick/Schweinsteiger - Old/no legs injury prone. Herrera/Schneiderlin are promising but are no where near top level yet.
I think for Pogba to do well. We would need Kroos/Matuidi also. You could argue that buying Kroos & Matuidi is better option.
Pogba is not a Luka Modric the type of player that will dictate play he is someone who needs to be as forward as possible to be effective.
If you look at the players Pogba had around (Pirlo, Vidal & Marchisio) him in the 4 years he has been a Juventus and look at what they have no now compared to our current Central midfield the gulf is huge.
Pjanić was my number no.1 target this summer. Disappointed we didn't move for him.
Not saying I would not sign Pogba I still would but I think he needs a proper partner to truly thrive. We have too many squad/peripheral players, that extend beyond just the midfield.
I don't see the likes of Young, Lingard, Jones, Rojo, Valencia & Memphis setting the world alight for us. We know what most of them are capable of few of them should have been shipped years ago.
Spot on.
If the deal had broken down we'd already know. Ed's not titting around in China with something that big left outstanding. This all feels very choreographed. We'll take the majority of the hit on the agent's fee, which we'd have known was a possibility since day one.
Is it a blessing or a curse refreshing this thread every 5-10 minutes while driving 16 hours today?
Thank you guys for keeping (any) updates coming. Deal better go down -- else I may pull over and add another 8 hours to my drive while I sob myself to sleep behind the wheel.
Thank you guys for keeping (any) updates coming. Deal better go down -- else I may pull over and add another 8 hours to my drive while I sob myself to sleep behind the wheel.
Di Marzio said that Juventus doesn't need to sell Pogba to buy Higiuan. I beg to differ. Juventus are 188m in red after buying a new stadium. They are a club who live within their means and don't rely on a sugar daddy. Therefore their transfer budget is expected to be small this year.
Till the day of writing they had bought
Pjanic - £27.5m
Pjaca - £20m
Lemina - £8.08m
Benatia - £2.55m (loan)
They are also close to sell Higuian - £80m and they want Gabigol (10m-20m)
They sold
Morata - £25m
Magnusson - £2.15m
Buchel - £1.02m
and a couple of transfers less then 1m
Rumours say that they will sell Zaza for 20m + 4m in bonuses, Pereyra for 13m and they are asking 25m for Rugani and 9m for Neto.
Assuming Zaza covers Pjaca expenses, Morata covers for Pjanic expenses, Pereyra covers for Lemina and Benatia. Then they have a surplus of around 30-34m. That means they are still 46m under if they buy Higuian.
Now they can cover that expense by selling Bonucci too however their defense will be ridiculously weak (they cant afford losing both Bonucci and Rugani). Therefore the big boy leaving is Pogba which will allow around 40m to add Gabigol and pay the bills.
Till the day of writing they had bought
Pjanic - £27.5m
Pjaca - £20m
Lemina - £8.08m
Benatia - £2.55m (loan)
They are also close to sell Higuian - £80m and they want Gabigol (10m-20m)
They sold
Morata - £25m
Magnusson - £2.15m
Buchel - £1.02m
and a couple of transfers less then 1m
Rumours say that they will sell Zaza for 20m + 4m in bonuses, Pereyra for 13m and they are asking 25m for Rugani and 9m for Neto.
Assuming Zaza covers Pjaca expenses, Morata covers for Pjanic expenses, Pereyra covers for Lemina and Benatia. Then they have a surplus of around 30-34m. That means they are still 46m under if they buy Higuian.
Now they can cover that expense by selling Bonucci too however their defense will be ridiculously weak (they cant afford losing both Bonucci and Rugani). Therefore the big boy leaving is Pogba which will allow around 40m to add Gabigol and pay the bills.
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You are right, I guess.
Do you know how marketable was Van Persie before he joined United? I think his marketability exploded after he joined us. IIRC, Nielsen had him in the top 10 in one of their reports after he joined us.
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I think pjanic is Pogba's replacement
hes not even an elite midfielder, cant believe people have written 589 pages, for this, in amost every big transfer page for a big name player, I`ve only commented 2-3 times, and that just to tell people that the deal is not happening, and these twitter ITK are full of shit, and make a living out of lying
I think so too. I think they will buy Gabigol and spent the rest on paying the debt.
By the way, where are all the rumours that Juve are looking to sell players like Zaza and Pereyra? Are there concrete links with other clubs?