Seems Flo-logical that RM might refocus on Pogba after losing out on Gomes
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I'm sure he will, but I expect Pogba will be too. IT's not really a shocking theory as much as it is the the most likely thing to happen.
I hope that as an Barca fan you are camped out in our part of the muppet camp, and not with those galactico cnuts.
Everything is going according to what I told (Im no ITK but I have followed Juventus and Mino for enough time to know how they work). Juventus will try and pinch every penny from this deal including any money they owe to Mino and Mino won't allow this deal to happen unless he gets his cut. United are working smart (although its a bit risky). Mino made the deal with Juventus and he will have to sort it out with them. United can't be expected to pay Mino's cut. Its risky because Mino is unpredictable and may try to involve Real or send United to Frek off.
Lets hope that United truly have 2 other options to move to. Hopefully it doesn't include Matuidi whose not really good in playing football.
Lets hope that United truly have 2 other options to move to. Hopefully it doesn't include Matuidi whose not really good in playing football.
You really think they "wanted" Gomes over Pogba in the first place? not a chance sorry. They just don't want to spend that sort of money on a player they don't really need.
I just have this feeling Woody wants to give Mou the 100% he has asked for.....no excuses. United might just bite the bullet and pay up, or cut some other deal with Mino....not sure.
Feck their silly club. They should be paying the agent fees. They are already getting a world record fee. I bet you if Madrid came calling they wouldn't have been making such a fuss.
Juve enticed him into moving Pogba from United by giving him 20% of any future transfer fee, now they want us to pay that cut
You have to marvel at the sheer audacity of it. If this is case then they can go swivel on general principle. Clowns.
Transfers are so complicated these days, remember watching a programme in the 90's where one chairman would pick up the phone and make an offer for a player, if they accepted they then gave players permission to talk with the club, done and dusted in days, really cant stand agents in the game, there is potentially 20m going straight out the game of football, imagine what they could do in the grassroots of football, things like this need capped, its embarrassing for the sport and needs looked at.
#FreeRaiola
#FreePogba
#FreePogba
I genuinely think that Raiola is on and will be on his best behaviour with us, he knows that Utd is where the serious money are. And since I believe we will go down a galactico-light route the next years he will want a piece of the pie for many years to come.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/el-confid...hone-call-aimed-stopping-man-united-transfer/
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I like Jose 's quotes. We are already paying record breaking transfer fee and huge wages, now they are asking us to pay the agent fee as well.
Where will all this end? We meet every wish of every selling club and become a joke like that?
There needs to be a stage where we communicate enough is enough and we have more than one player to fill the position.
Where will all this end? We meet every wish of every selling club and become a joke like that?
There needs to be a stage where we communicate enough is enough and we have more than one player to fill the position.
How on earth would any newspaper know, literally hours after it happens, that a man phoned another man? Unless they're tapping his calls.
Bullshit
Bullshit
imo, last minute "leak" to the papers because they know how close the deal is. So they can turn around and say "MUFC reckless spending didn't even give us a chance", even though they had no chance because of our offer and chasing gomes.
This is actually quite incredible from them. Gets Raiola on his side by enticing him 20% of transfer fees and then ends up asking United about that cut.
No they wouldn't. They think we're stupid/desperate because we gave Pogba away in the first place.
Exactly.
Jose's comments basically confirm that we have reached an agreement with Pogba and he wants to come here (Otherwise he would just refuse to comment). The only thing dragging this transfer is Juve being greedy and wanting us to pay more.
This is what worries me. Not that we won't get Pogba but that we'll end up with Matuidi.
What deadline? Jose has been talking about Aug 31 in last 2 pressers.
The more I think about all this I think United are right. If it's true that Juve have asked us to pay the 20 percent fee of the transfer to Raiola that they agreed when he signed for them, then they should get lost. Mourihno is saying all the right things, we shouldn't give in to ridiculous demands. I want pogba as much as anyone but United should not bow to every demand either.This saga is going to drag another week at least which is crap. I still think the Pog will come in the end.
I just think that there are many greedy men holding things up. It's a huge deal to complete but there is more going on than normal behind the scenes I think. Mino Raiola is a snake, no wonder Fergie didn't like him. The amount of money he's probably got of us already this summer is probably scandalous, never mind this apparent 20m fee. Great window for the club regardless, we will get what we need. If Pogba really wants to come he will push for it at the end. I don't think he will let this deal rest on the greed of his agent or Juve. This is what I've read on the situation. Nobody can really know the truth is or what's going on behind the scenes.
I just think that there are many greedy men holding things up. It's a huge deal to complete but there is more going on than normal behind the scenes I think. Mino Raiola is a snake, no wonder Fergie didn't like him. The amount of money he's probably got of us already this summer is probably scandalous, never mind this apparent 20m fee. Great window for the club regardless, we will get what we need. If Pogba really wants to come he will push for it at the end. I don't think he will let this deal rest on the greed of his agent or Juve. This is what I've read on the situation. Nobody can really know the truth is or what's going on behind the scenes.
Clubs might hate agents but player really need them. IIRC Zlatan said in his book how Ajax didn't pay the money they owed him on technicalities and after that only he appointed his agent.
New Raiola quotes from his CdS interview on the Caf's twitter timeline.
That's a brilliant idea, tapping Mendes' and Raiola's phones. Imagine the ITK status
"At the moment I can tell you that Pogba is a Juventus player," Allegri said at the pre-match press conference ahead of Saturday night's International Champions Cup meeting with A-League club Melbourne Victory.
"We do not know what is going to happen."
"We do not know what is going to happen."
True? Be gone! The transfer threads are no place for facts
I would like to get excited by that but that's the manager's default response when another team wants their best player, no?The words of resignation
Last week he said this:
"This is not a selling club that just lets its players go. Pogba belongs to Juve and at the end of the day he too will want to win another Scudetto and hopefully the Champions League.
"We have grown in terms of appeal and awareness of our own capabilities. So far our market this summer has been eight out of 10, bringing in players of international pedigree like Medhi Benatia, Dani Alves and Miralem Pjanic."
Many people seem very sure Madrid can't come in now that it's 'so far along', we've no real idea how far along it is, whether it's stalled etc. and as long as he hasn't signed, another side can come in for him. Mourinho talking about other targets says to me that there's an issue and we're trying not to seem desperate for the signing to strengthen our position, so it is not done at all.
My worry is that it seems very much like our main backup is Matuidi. There's a world of difference between starting the season with Pogba and with Matuidi.....can't really think who else we'd go for with Gomes at Barca now. Missing out on yet another big name after yet another of these sagas, as soon as one of the usual suspect clubs comes in, would look pretty bad for us too.
My worry is that it seems very much like our main backup is Matuidi. There's a world of difference between starting the season with Pogba and with Matuidi.....can't really think who else we'd go for with Gomes at Barca now. Missing out on yet another big name after yet another of these sagas, as soon as one of the usual suspect clubs comes in, would look pretty bad for us too.
Get excited. He could have said he expects him to stay, or he hopes he'll stay, or we don't want to lose him etc etc. If he says he doesn't know what's gonna happen, it means he's gone.
Thanks mate - he has definitely changed his tune then, I stand corrected!
Sorry to be dense, what does he say?
I'm so nervous about this. Don't know how longer I can take this.
Sure, that's not at all how RM operate
still no sure why the dont hire a normal lawyer who would been a lot cheaper he goes threw the contract at a standard price rather than one claiming to be a football agent and charging what ever he wants
I'd be proud of my club to walk away from the deal if we're required to pay our side of agent fees along with Juventus's agent fees.
Tell them to get f##### and move on to the next target, because if we bow to these demands it will hinder every single transfer we try to make in future. Good quotes from Mourinho.
Tell them to get f##### and move on to the next target, because if we bow to these demands it will hinder every single transfer we try to make in future. Good quotes from Mourinho.