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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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RedStarUnited said:
Why do people say this?

Raiola delivered Juve a player who was going to be worth a record fee in the future for free. The least Juve could do was give him a clause that lets him have a share of that price. And on Pogba's side of things, he took him from a team that barely played him to a league winning team that gave him more than enough playing time.
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You make it sound as if he carried Pogba on his shoulders from Manchester to Turin when he's just facilitated a transfer for Europe's biggest young star between Europe's biggest clubs.

He should be rewarded but the figures being thrown around are ludicrous. I guess it's emblematic of our economic system where you can earn so much for doing so little.
 
calm down guys we are still in track.. remember in madrid pogba have to compete with the likes of modric, kross, casemiro..

but if he move to United he only have to compete with fellaini, BSF, herrera and carrick :lol::lol:
1 spot locked..

also madrid fans is c*nt that will boo even his best player like ronaldo
 
Can people stop saying it's done? If it's done, why is there no announcement, well, I'll tell you why, it's because it's NOT done. Thiago & Sanches were supposed to be done, right? And Andre Gomes was "close" to Real Madrid too, what happened? People have legit reasons to not be confident about United closing a deal for a top target. And I never get invested in United and transfer sagas, I'll be happy if we sign Pogba, have always wanted him here, but, Real Madrid are very much in it, and if they put together a financial package to match what we're offering then things could get very interesting of course. Nothing is done until there's an official announcement.
 
So according to the Telegraph, our second bid is of 92m pounds. Juventus want at least 100m pounds and want us to pay Raiola's cut of 14-18m pounds. Negotiations are difficult.

So that's a difference of around 20m and that's why it's difficult.
 
Shimo said:
Yes 100m is a lot but, so is 20m and saying United being worried about is utterly stupid - well, the opposite is really the case, it would be really really stupid for United to just throw that much money at the first time of asking. Say United is buying the kid Reece Oxford and they think 15m should be the going price but, West Ham come and say nah give us 25m - it's just 10m, should we just say yes without trying to negotiate? Probably be utterly stupid of us to do that.

Also, all this fear from the fans because of a few stories saying Madrid have come back, that seems like a feed from Juve to try get some panic - goal achieved but, thankfully it's not the people that matter. Club seems to have countered quite well with Mou saying - well we've got other options if the deal doesn't go through. So the clubs / agent are at the negotiating table - will probably take a few more days/rounds and then things will be settled.
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You're probably right I was fighting the inner muppet for so long but it got to me. Hopefully things will get sorted out soon.
 
KM said:
So according to the Telegraph, our second bid is of 92m pounds. Juventus want at least 100m pounds and want us to way Raiola's cut of 14-18m pounds. Negotiations are difficult.

So that's a difference of around 20m and that's why it's difficult.
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112m pounds? really? This is verging on insanity now. feck this. No one is going to pay that. Pogba is going to have to hold out and refuse to play, like Bale did, if he wants out of those greedy bastard's claws.

They got him for free, ffs, and are not content with making a profit of 80m pounds, or 100m euros.

I'm perfectly fine with not getting Pogba and using that money to buy 2 players.
 
Higgy74 said:
Wtf is wrong with people??? CALM DOWN!!!! It's done, it's obviously done, do you seriously think he would hop onto a plane, fly to Miami and say, Paul, Madrid are interested in you
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Yes I think he would do that tbh. Present his client with the proposal from Madrid and the terms they are offering and talking to his client face to face to help him work out where he wants to go next. Providing of course there is another club ready and able to spend the money on Pogba.
 
There's no way that Madrid will pay that price. Mourinho's press conference indicates that we won't be held ransom to Juventus demands. I'm guessing it's either us or Juventus for him.
 
Shimo said:
Yes 100m is a lot but, so is 20m and saying United being worried about is utterly stupid - well, the opposite is really the case, it would be really really stupid for United to just throw that much money at the first time of asking. Say United is buying the kid Reece Oxford and they think 15m should be the going price but, West Ham come and say nah give us 25m - it's just 10m, should we just say yes without trying to negotiate? Probably be utterly stupid of us to do that.

Also, all this fear from the fans because of a few stories saying Madrid have come back, that seems like a feed from Juve to try get some panic - goal achieved but, thankfully it's not the people that matter. Club seems to have countered quite well with Mou saying - well we've got other options if the deal doesn't go through. So the clubs / agent are at the negotiating table - will probably take a few more days/rounds and then things will be settled.
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I agree with this.
 
Hamadovich86 said:
Have to admit that i'm legit concerned about this happening. Its weird that Riaola is travelling to see Pogba I mean what is it that he couldnt tell him on the phone. Di Marzio did report some time again that Madrid came asking again for him so its not impossible that they decided to make a move. If United are hung up on agent fees then ffs just pay, the club is spending 100-120m and they're worried about 20m? Thats utterly stupid if true.
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I don't think the deal is done yet by any stretch, but if Real really do come back in for him you can bet your house we'll hear about it from Perez in every newspaper on the planet. He knows no other way.
 
KM said:
So according to the Telegraph, our second bid is of 92m pounds. Juventus want at least 100m pounds and want us to pay Raiola's cut of 14-18m pounds. Negotiations are difficult.

So that's a difference of around 20m and that's why it's difficult.
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I was under the impression that Raiola's cut is the only thing holding up the deal and that a fee with Juventus was agreed.

Can you link the telegraph article?
 
Hamadovich86 said:
Have to admit that i'm legit concerned about this happening. Its weird that Riaola is travelling to see Pogba I mean what is it that he couldnt tell him on the phone. Di Marzio did report some time again that Madrid came asking again for him so its not impossible that they decided to make a move. If United are hung up on agent fees then ffs just pay, the club is spending 100-120m and they're worried about 20m? Thats utterly stupid if true.
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Why would he have to fly to Miami to tell him about Madrid interest or offer if he can call pogba?;)
 
I'm very sure that Juventus will accept the offer. They won't get an offer like that again. He will be ours.
 
KM said:
I'm very sure that Juventus will accept the offer. They won't get an offer like that again. He will be ours.
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I would be shocked too if they declined the final bid from us.

It's a huge sum of money.
 
KM said:
I'm very sure that Juventus will accept the offer. They won't get an offer like that again. He will be ours.
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It's a business poker face from Mourinho and Woodward. They know we are offering world record fee and don't want to offer much more and Juventus and Raiola will need to stop acting like spoiled cnuts and take it.
 
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Can't we offer Rooney as part of the deal. He likes old ladies. On a more serious note, I am worried about Madrid, but it's now a waiting game. I have a feeling we'll have good idea by Monday. Surely there will be news after his agents visit. I want this to happen because there are no other suitable options and this lad would be ideal. He's a serious goal threat from midfield and a powerful and skillful addition. I am not as calm as I was yesterday but hopeful.
 
23 pages of panic since i last visited this thread all because Barcelona signed Gomes and Jose didn't announce that we want Pogba and Pogba only- because when negotiating the biggest transfer of all time you declare to the club you are buying from that it's your only option? Calm down people. Nothing has changed .

I'd be happy with our business plus another midfielder who is not Pogba in all honesty- i am as vested in us getting him as much as you guys- it would be an astounding spoilt summer as a fan. If not though what we have bought already alongside someone who fits the profile as Mourinho has stated is fine by me.

Real Madrid paved the way 2 weeks ago for us , ok Di Marzio stated they made contact since, but i somehow doubt Juve would take less than what we are offering and at this point and its has been widely reported that

a) Madrid cannot afford that much and..
b) Zidane is happy with what he has plus Gomes was a replacement for James who is now staying.

I know we have a need for constant information especially when acquiring players- but sit back and revel in the fact that we have Jose as manager, Zlatan and Mkhitaryan with one more signing to come whoever that may be.
 
I suspect the player will dictate more where he wants to go rather than Juventus.
Zidane might be happy with what he has got, but there is absolutely no way he would not be interested in Pogba, and he would improve any team in the world (real included
 
Werder Herzog said:
23 pages of panic since i last visited this thread all because Barcelona signed Gomes and Jose didn't announce that we want Pogba and Pogba only- because when negotiating the biggest transfer of all time you declare to the club you are buying from that it's your only option? Calm down people. Nothing has changed .

I'd be happy with our business plus another midfielder who is not Pogba in all honesty- i am as vested in us getting him as much as you guys- it would be an astounding spoilt summer as a fan. If not though what we have bought already alongside someone who fits the profile as Mourinho has stated is fine by me.

Real Madrid paved the way 2 weeks ago for us , ok Di Marzio stated they made contact since, but i somehow doubt Juve would take less than what we are offering and at this point and its has been widely reported that

a) Madrid cannot afford that much and..
b) Zidane is happy with what he has plus Gomes was a replacement for James who is now staying.

I know we have a need for constant information especially when acquiring players- but sit back and revel in the fact that we have Jose as manager, Zlatan and Mkhitaryan with one more signing to come whoever that may be.
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great post!

1. In regard to Gomes, MARCA say Madrid actually backed off because James went public with wanting to stay. People can say it's covering for a miss but the James article only came out a few days ago. Then on top of this, Marca have not linked Madrid to pogba after gomes joined barca. Thus i don't understand why anyone is linking gomes to barca as meaning real will now get pogba :wenger:

2. If for some far out reason we don't get pogba, Jose has reassured us with his options. Perfect way to handle things. Unlike LVG that seemingly hyped possible transfers, backed out of deal, and then signed no one.

3. Revel in Mkhi playing BVB off the park in a few hours! Woodward will try to get pogba, let's all enjoy a good game of football :)
 
Phil Jones 79 said:
I suspect the player will dictate more where he wants to go rather than Juventus.
Zidane might be happy with what he has got, but there is absolutely no way he would not be interested in Pogba, and he would improve any team in the world (real included
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If that was the case and he really didn't want to come here then it would be Madrid all the press are talking about now as him signing for, we would be nowhere near a deal. There is a reason we are at such a supposed advanced stage of negotiating (we can only go off what the press tell us).

If Madrid came in for say 80 million , do you thing Juve who are notorious penny pinchers would say 'yeah you know what sod that other 20 million , you can have him'.
 
Juventus can't resist 100M, with all due respect that's an offer you can refuse.

Pogba wants to come here (I'm assuming here, otherwise this won't be going to this stage)

Raiola won't be bothered whether it's Madrid or United, if I were him I'd prefer Pogba to move to United so that he can move again to Madrid in a few years

Madrid won't pay up

So? What's the fuse? The only possible of this breaking off is if Pogba doesn't want to come. If he wants to come and we have the cash it's on, the rest is just details and haggling. At the end of the day Juve won't want to lose 100M over saving 5-10M, we won't mind another 5-10M (we already paid 100M anyway), Raiola won't mind a few M less.

IMHO it's about saving face who's giving in first, while everyone involved is already horny for it to happened, Juve/Pog/Raiola wants the money, we want pogba. Just playing hard to get
 
legball said:
Can people stop saying it's done? If it's done, why is there no announcement, well, I'll tell you why, it's because it's NOT done. Thiago & Sanches were supposed to be done, right? And Andre Gomes was "close" to Real Madrid too, what happened? People have legit reasons to not be confident about United closing a deal for a top target. And I never get invested in United and transfer sagas, I'll be happy if we sign Pogba, have always wanted him here, but, Real Madrid are very much in it, and if they put together a financial package to match what we're offering then things could get very interesting of course. Nothing is done until there's an official announcement.
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Ok, of course you don't! A bit of a long winded comment by someone, who doesn't invest in United and transfer sagas?! :boring:
 
To be honest this has dragged on for a while now , I'd like it to be concluded quickly either one way or the other, most of the press are speculating as to what is happening. At least Jose is planning alternative targets if this falls through
 
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kouroux said:
It is amazing how people are so sure of what is exactly happening based on very little information.
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This. All these rumours basically seem to lead back to the things Di Marzio has said and have turned into more and bigger stories. Snowball effect. Nothing concrete has been reported by the BBC for example.

Btw, if the stories are true, and Juventus are really refusing £92m+ in that way, they truly are despicable cnuts, and I hope we never do them any favours again.
 
WPMUFC said:
great post!

1. In regard to Gomes, MARCA say Madrid actually backed off because James went public with wanting to stay. People can say it's covering for a miss but the James article only came out a few days ago. Then on top of this, Marca have not linked Madrid to pogba after gomes joined barca. Thus i don't understand why anyone is linking gomes to barca as meaning real will now get pogba :wenger:

2. If for some far out reason we don't get pogba, Jose has reassured us with his options. Perfect way to handle things. Unlike LVG that seemingly hyped possible transfers, backed out of deal, and then signed no one.

3. Revel in Mkhi playing BVB off the park in a few hours! Woodward will try to get pogba, let's all enjoy a good game of football :)
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This is not true. He never mentioned any targets and Woodward is the one who negotiates deals and if he fails or Glazers dont approve the deal then you cant blame the Manager
 
Chip said:
This. All these rumours basically seem to lead back to the things Di Marzio has said and have turned into more and bigger stories. Snowball effect. Nothing concrete has been reported by the BBC for example.

Btw, if the stories are true, and Juventus are really refusing £92m+ in that way, they truly are despicable cnuts, and I hope we never do them any favours again.
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They have no obligation to sell to us to be fair! It's business. This is a cutthroat industry, no room for favours or sympathy. You pay up or you miss out.

Anyway I'm still confident. Look at every rival forum, they have no doubt we'll sign him. We've created some self-defeating sob story about Madrid swooping in last minute. The reality is, he's ours.
 
Chip said:
This. All these rumours basically seem to lead back to the things Di Marzio has said and have turned into more and bigger stories. Snowball effect. Nothing concrete has been reported by the BBC for example.

Btw, if the stories are true, and Juventus are really refusing £92m+ in that way, they truly are despicable cnuts, and I hope we never do them any favours again.
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True, majority are going of from what the papers and the likes of that Di Marzio.

Me? I'm basing my optimism off the back of the chef, the barber, the friend (Antoine) and the little brother of the friend! :devil:
 
jungledrums said:
They have no obligation to sell to us to be fair! It's business. This is a cutthroat industry, no room for favours or sympathy. You pay up or you miss out.

Anyway I'm still confident. Look at every rival forum, they have no doubt we'll sign him. We've created some self-defeating sob story about Madrid swooping in last minute. The reality is, he's ours.
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It's just trying not to be cocky until the old lady signs (Pun intended)

We've been left with our willies limping these last few years, trauma i tell you!
 
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