He wasn't the clubs most expensive signing that season, Veron was.
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He wasn't the clubs most expensive signing that season, Veron was.
Why not? Pogba isn't as globally marketable today as you might think. He won't earn us £50m more the next year if he comes.
Bought in the same summer as Veron who was more expensive so he won't be included
Not sure I'd measure one's passion by whether they've been to the club's home. I agree that armchair fans (eg the gloryhunters) are irrelevant, but I myself lived in Manchester for a year when I was 2 and haven't returned since (and still to this day have not been to a home United game), yet I'm up at 2 am, 5 am etc for every single United game. The nature of big clubs is that they have, by definition, fans from abroad, or else they wouldn't be big clubs. Anyway, off topic.
If i was Woody i would make sure we sign Pogba on a 6 year contract with a £200m release clause.
You can almost guarantee Real will be sniffing around after a couple of years.
You can almost guarantee Real will be sniffing around after a couple of years.
Edit: ignore this, I'm a fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
Those guys honestly deserve it. They were acting all cocky and sarcastic throughout this entire transfer saga and pretending United fans were a bunch of delusional mongrel for thinking we could get Pogba back.The mood has really turned over there at Juventuz.
Its gone from denial to anger... poor guys
Now things have gone tits up, they ironically became the ones deluded than it all turned into anger and Pogba + Raiola bashing
Pogba represents an ideal fit for Adidas now. He is a master of his craft but more importantly for the brand’s marketers he is the embodiment of individualism which is a huge appeal to young audiences. Adidas has admitted it needs to work harder to reflect how people view and discuss the beautiful game now, bringing personality and dynamism to its marketing that’s been noticeably lacking from parts of its communications in recent years.
Business development director at Pitch, Paul McCormick, described Pogba as “a marketer’s dream who showcases all that is great about the beautiful game – skill, pace, personality and power”.
“By declaring that he has signed for Adidas because they have the same shared ambition as him and will allow him to explore new creative frontiers, the message to his audience is that Adidas is the brand for free-thinking, creative footballers and people.”
Pogba’s appeal with younger audiences will allow Adidas to make the most of what McCormick describes as a “crossover athlete” and will likely lead to many collaborations which explore his interests in sport, music and style.
Alex Coulson, executive director at Sport Industry Group, said the partnership would likely produce a number of "headline grabbing campaigns". He said the brand’s success is rooted in its desire to “find new ways to talk with consumers and in a language they understand”.
Fans saw that with 'There will be haters' a campaign that was built on an in depth knowledge of its target audience's world and was a brave decision to take. "The fact that Adidas was awarded the 2015 Brand of the Year and has five shortlisted entries at this year's BT Sport Industry Awards is no small feat, it's testament to the brand's fresh, creative and daring approach.”
But with Pogba, Adidas had to work hard to secure its star signing. Prime Time Sport’s chief executive, Esteve Calzada, attributed the drawn out negotiations between Adidas and Pogba as “mainly money driven”.
He said: “Mino Raiola, his agent, has been pushing for as much money as possible because it was the right time.”
According to Calzada a combination of factors other than creativity helped formulate the deal.
“He’s youth, playing for a big team, playing in a big league, the Euros approaching and his media appeal mean brands want to associate with him.”
While money is clearly a driving force behind this deal it did not pave the way to the two parties meeting. Brands are becoming increasingly conscious about which sports personalities they align themselves with and the swiftness with which they will drop a major ambassador in light of any negative publicity, such has been the case with Nike and Maria Sharapova, illustrates these increasingly complex relationships.
In Pogba, Adidas has found a fitting partner who echoes the brand's ethos of bold individualism and with that it will continue to be relevant to young audiences keen to feel a sense of individualism in the brands they associate with.
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/03/25/why-paul-pogba-far-more-just-big-name-adidas
I remember someone saying he's addidas third most important player now after Messi and someone I can't remember
It's a yank forum isn't it?
When can we expect a response if Juve accept the bid?
Not sure mate. Still, they are fans of Juve.
Anderson is on the list but the list only shows the most expensive signing that season , not every signing
From that, it looks like early 2000's is when we were really investing in the club - our three biggest signings (compared to revenue) were all made between 2001 and 2004. Maybe now we need to play catch up for the lack of investment in the 10 years following that
You're conflating two issues and drawing an unsound conclusion here.
Someone like Woodward will be exactly on the ball with how much money Pogba can generate via marketability. I'm assuming you're thinking only of adidas here, also, rather than sponsors and other brands who will want to be associated with the player and United now?
We really are flying through the pages. Is this a record now? Seeing shit rumours now saying Pogba has instructed someone to look for a house.
If he became a consistent starter for us he would be.
According to Gazzetta, the deal is underway and could be concluded very quickly. The news of the day is that Pogba no longer wants to be a Juventino. Through his agent, Mino Raiola, Paul has communicated to Juve officials that he intends to go back to his old team. Paul wants to go, and at this point one of the key elements of the Juventus resistance has cracked.
“Paul will not be sold, unless he asks us to leave” has been the Juve mantra. Well, that moment has come. Pogba hasn’t resisted the temptation of Jose Mourinho and lots of money. Which is why Juventus doesn't have an alternative to accepting the English offer and investing the proceeds into new players.
Pogba’s propsed new contract is 12 million Euros net for 5 + 1 years plus bonuses. Currently at Juve he gets 4.5 (6 including bonuses) and is the highest paid player. The difference is huge. Other signal – prior to departing for the Euros, he had cancelled his rental (?) near the Olimpic stadium. It was a sign that something was going through his head. Manchester will offer 125 million Euros, off which 100 million will go to Juve and 25million to Paul. This is because Pogba and Juve have a gentleman’s agreement in place, according to which, in case of a sale, Pogba will receive 20% of the proceeds.
“Paul will not be sold, unless he asks us to leave” has been the Juve mantra. Well, that moment has come. Pogba hasn’t resisted the temptation of Jose Mourinho and lots of money. Which is why Juventus doesn't have an alternative to accepting the English offer and investing the proceeds into new players.
Pogba’s propsed new contract is 12 million Euros net for 5 + 1 years plus bonuses. Currently at Juve he gets 4.5 (6 including bonuses) and is the highest paid player. The difference is huge. Other signal – prior to departing for the Euros, he had cancelled his rental (?) near the Olimpic stadium. It was a sign that something was going through his head. Manchester will offer 125 million Euros, off which 100 million will go to Juve and 25million to Paul. This is because Pogba and Juve have a gentleman’s agreement in place, according to which, in case of a sale, Pogba will receive 20% of the proceeds.
Not the most successful period for the club.
We spent £60m on transfers in 2001...almost 50% of total revenue for that year. Would be like spending £250m this summer
This logic is very flawed. I mean this board alone probably contains many people who have never been in Manchester let alone Old Trafford yet they are Man United fans. Just like us, Juventus are a global and massive club which attract support and fans from everywhere around the world including those who can't make it to United or Juventus respective cities.
Unless you believe only those in this forums who have been to Manchester are true fans of the club(which will probably alienate the majority of posters here) then your reasoning is incredibly faulty
Ferdinand, Rooney and Ronaldo were bought in that period and contributed a lot to the success after 2006.
Makes sense, I'd been long wondering how much they paid him when they stole him at 18, it couldn't have been a huge sum, so he must have a % agreed on a future fee. Makes you wonder if he and Raiola had been thinking about this for a while.
What I find most impressive is we've almost doubled our turnover between 2010-2016. And people think Woodward is doing a bad job?
I think the 20% is to Pogba and his agent. Not that both get 20% each.
Raiola sure brokered an excellent first deal for Pogba, eh? Surprising that he's their highest paid player considering they have some of Italy's most important players currently. Although I can assume the likes of Buffon have probably taken a lower wage due to age recently...
Obviously he will have an impact on the reputation of the club, but what I'm saying is; in terms of sheer numbers of income through his marketability short term, that doesn't justify paying £100m for him. The original post was aimed at someone saying something in the lines of us paying so much money for him because he will earn it back for us through marketing.
Very well said. This is a tangent, is off topic and will probably get me shouted at by the mods - but is is an issue that really pushes my buttons.
Location has nothing to do with how much of a "fan" you are.
In recent years I have become obsessed with the NFL, I watch every Miami game, I stay up til 4am on a work night to watch the last snaps of meaningless preseason games, I watch all 7 rounds of the draft, tweet about them all day, I can name you the 7th choice WR on the depth chart who will never play a snap in the NFL.
I just finished Uni, hope to get married soon and then have a kid. Oddly enough i do not have the money to fly to Miami 8 times per year (luckily I just saw them live in London 2 years in a row!) and I do not have a season ticket, but you will struggle to find many people who live in Miami and go to every game who are more passionate about the team than me.
Unfair post in my opinion. 120 million would get you three very high quality players. For example, we could buy Mahrez, Kroos and Bonucci for that sort of money and whilst they aren't Ferraris, they are most certainly Porsche's and would offer more improvement to our squad than 1 "Ferrari".
Wow Pogba will be pocketing himself a lot of money this year. If one adds up everything with sponsors and such, he could net himself up to 50 million this year alone
Hmmm like Carrick? No it takes more than that.
So is there a future sell on fee for us
Pretty annoying they only bought if for less than 1m, when Danny Inges went for 8m after his tribunal case... not to mentioned Juv first refused to pay anything for him.
Pretty annoying they only bought if for less than 1m, when Danny Inges went for 8m after his tribunal case... not to mentioned Juv first refused to pay anything for him.
I highly doubt it.
Leicester supposedly want £40m+ for Mahrez, Bonucci will cost even more than that and Kroos might be the most expensive of all.
In what world would you buy those players with that money? In today's market that is absolutely impossible. Kroos alone will take 90-95% of that money for his transfer if not more and you're already operating with not enough money left to do any serious business.
Running down the wing hear United sing...VIVA RONALDO!!
No you aren't. Why this constant downplaying of transfer fees? You wouldn't even get Bonucci and Kroos for £120m let alone adding Mahrez in there. And there's no chance Madrid sell Kroos to us anyway.
No way you can buy even 2 of those for 120 million. Kroos in the current market should be around 70m at the very least.
Real can come smell my shit.
I don't think you could get those for £120m I'm afraid.