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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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harshad said:
A transfer of a player is nothing like any other deal. Between the clubs the only thing that needs to be agreed is the Transfer Fee, payment terms and any sell-on terms. The other terms that you mentioned would have to be agreed with the player himself and would not form part of any discussion with the selling club.

In Pogba's case, it seems we have an in-principle agreement with Pogba/his agent regarding the terms of his contract. The only thing remaining is agreeing a fee with Juventus for transferring his registration to us. It really is a matter of agreeing on a fee Juventus and any sell on clauses.
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I was talking about the overall pipeline of a deal from being generated to being completed.
We don't know what stage United are at with Juventus, we don't know if any of these other steps have already been agreed because nothing factual has come out, everybody is speculating and relying on other sources.
The original poster I quoted said this fee can be settled within a 30 second conversation. All i'm saying is that's an unrealistic expectation because each figure quoted will have implications for the selling club, buying club, player, agent, plus any other representatives working on the deal for each party.
 
It's surreal really. From having Rooney in midfield supported by Lindgard/Mata/Depay and brilliant but young duo of Martial and Rashford. We will lineup with Zlatan fu.cking Ibrahimovic, Paul fu.cking Pogba and Henrik fu.cking Mkhitaryan and Anthony Fu.cking Martial :drool: I also think Martial will prosper in this environment. Not every attack will be on his shoulders, teams will not be able to double/tripple team him as there will be other dangerous players on the field. And I think he will wreak havoc from the left.

After this post I have only one post left for today and I'm saving it in case Pogba signs for some wank joke. :)
 
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Red Bug said:
I'll actually enjoy using Utd on FIFA head-to-head seasons again if Poggy joins!

That's the most important thing about all of this.
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Forgot about that, we're gunna be class on FIFA 17 with or without Pogba.

Valencia/Smalling/Bailly/Shaw will be the fastest defence on the game probably. Always helpful on FIFA.

Pogba is the perfect FIFA CM and I always play well with Basti for some reason.

Zlatan is overpowered as feck and Mkhi and Martial will have got big stats boosts after their season.

Dave in net.
 
sokol11 said:
It's surreal really. From having Rooney in midfield supported by Lindgard/Mata/Depay and brilliant but young duo of Martial and Rashford. We will lineup with Zlatan fu.cking Ibrahimovic, Paul fu.cking Pogba and Henrik fu.cking Mkhitaryan and Anthony Fu.cking Martial :drool:
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We're building team in the league, which along with one of the world's best managers, will be quite a sight to behold next year.
 
JustAFan said:
You have to be wumming or have no real clue about what SAF accomplished.
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Of course I know what he's accomplished. He is still the best manager ever for me. But even the most adoring fan, has to admit SAF dropped the ball with Pogba.

Never did I say that this negates SAF's work. Just it is a blot on his work.
 
I can understand a lot of poster's opinions regarding the worth of Pogba. I disagree however with those claiming it's 'stupid to argue what he's worth as it's whatever a club is willing to pay etc'... I think a lot of the concerns are that he's not worth it in relation to the ability of other players available in his position for less money.

I don't personally think he's good enough relative to other players to justify the premium, but I think he's got the potential to be the greatest midfielder of his generation. More importantly I think this puts us back 'on top' as a club. He's a player who generates massive interest, and most clubs would love to have him, they simply can't afford the fee. We'll be the club that broke the transfer record, not Madrid for once.

Also a yer ago I wouldn't have wanted Jose anywhere near our club, but if we're honest we would likely have not got Zlatan, maybe not Henrik, and certainly not Pogba with any other available manager. Between Jose, and what we're willing to pay for Pogba it feels like we're sitting at the top table again in terms of attracting talent and fans to our club.
 
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RedPnutz said:
Of course I know what he's accomplished. He is still the best manager ever for me. But even the most adoring fan, has to admit SAF dropped the ball with Pogba.

Never did I say that this negates SAF's work. Just it is a blot on his work.
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SAF did drop the ball with Pogba, BUT without SAF we wouldn't even be in the position to spend 100mil on him or any player. The club wouldn't be what it is today without SAF.
 
Pass and Move said:
I can understand a lot of poster's opinions regarding the worth of Pogba. I disagree however with those claiming it's 'stupid to argue what he's worth as it's whatever a club is willing to pay etc'... I think a lot of the concerns are that he's not worth it in relation to the ability of other players available in his position for less money.

I don't personally think he's good enough relative to other players to justify the premium, but I think he's got the potential to be the greatest midfielder of his generation. More importantly I think this puts us back 'on top' as a club. He's a player who generates massive interest, and most clubs would love to have him, they simply can't afford the fee. We'll be the club that broke the transfer record, not Madrid for once.

Also a yer ago I wouldn't have wanted Jose anywhere near our club, but if we're honest we would likely have not got Zlatan, maybe not Henrik, and certainly not Pogba with any other available manager. Between Jose, and what we're willing to pay for Pogba it feels like we're sitting at the top table again in terms of attracting talent and fans to our club.
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I don't think he's worth 100 million from a playing perspective but people have to look outside of that. The potential money we will be earning from sponsorship deals will be mega on the back of this. He'll be the most expensive player ever and deals will be done solely because of that (not to mention Pogba being one of the best young players in the planet also brings in a lot of sponsorship (and shirt sales).

And on the pitch, he has plenty of time to improve and win us titles, that by the end of his stay here, I think he will have more than justified his price tag.
 
If it doesn't actually happen now it's going to be a let-down of titanic proportions...
No player is worth £100M but if he signs, stays for a good few years, helps put United back at the top of the pile, it will be money well spent.
 
vi1lain said:
I was talking about the overall pipeline of a deal from being generated to being completed.
We don't know what stage United are at with Juventus, we don't know if any of these other steps have already been agreed because nothing factual has come out, everybody is speculating and relying on other sources.
The original poster I quoted said this fee can be settled within a 30 second conversation. All i'm saying is that's an unrealistic expectation because each figure quoted will have implications for the selling club, buying club, player, agent, plus any other representatives working on the deal for each party.
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I agree. But there are two different deals to be agreed to by United. One is with Juventus for transfer of Pogba's registration and the second one is with Pogba. All I am saying is, in this case with the way things have moved during the summer, we wouldn't be negotiating with Juventus unless we have an in-principle agreement with Raiola for Pogba's contract. It just doesn't seem likely that we do not have any understanding with Raiola, before approaching Juventus.
 
Vialli_92 said:
United will make a lot of money from Pogba's marketing. After he becomes the world's most expensive player playing in the EPL he will attract lots of sponsors for United and himself and of course United will have about 50% of his image rights.

He's worth about £50 million as a footballer right now but with his potential and marketability it will be a good move for United in the long term.
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Like Zlatan he will bring a large fan base with him. He's young, flashy, has all the talent in the world and seems like a nice guy, lots of young kids will look up to him. I wouldn't be surprised if the club held a meeting with our sponsors and they all gave the green light for this deal.
 
RedPnutz said:
Of course I know what he's accomplished. He is still the best manager ever for me. But even the most adoring fan, has to admit SAF dropped the ball with Pogba.

Never did I say that this negates SAF's work. Just it is a blot on his work.
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Backing off the "big stain" and "huge shadow" comments now are you?

It's at most a minor negative, though who knows had we kept him, it might be us he is looking to leave right now.
 
Kaos said:
On a scale from 'Sanchester United' to 'Done Dealio' how certain is this to happen now?
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It's closer to done dealio. If we just look at the reliable journos and the almost briefing level of consistency in all the italian papers. It has to be extremely close.
 
djdhrubs said:
Unfortunately our Woody isn't as hot shot a CEO as you clearly are.
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What the hell

It was a bit tounge-in-cheek. I get that all the paperwork etc takes time, but the meeting itself between the clubs to negotiate the price shouldn't take more than a couple of days.

Hope I didn't ruin your day with my post.
 
Pentame said:
What the hell

It was a bit tounge-in-cheek. I get that all the paperwork etc takes time, but the meeting itself between the clubs to negotiate the price shouldn't take more than a couple of days.

Hope I didn't ruin your day with my post.
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To be fair you initially said that it shouldn't take more than an hour, which is pretty ridiculous.
 
I don't get people who are arguing about the time of the negotions and are ridiculing those that say it should happen fast with green smileys and FM references.

100 million or not, the deal can be wrapped up in a day or two. It truly at this point shouldn't take that long. Clubs always finish deals on deadline day.
 
Pentame said:
What the hell

It was a bit tounge-in-cheek. I get that all the paperwork etc takes time, but the meeting itself between the clubs to negotiate the price shouldn't take more than a couple of days.

Hope I didn't ruin your day with my post.
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It's a huge deal, of course it's going to take more than a couple of days. Every million is important here for both sides. Payment condition, installments - it will all have to be adjusted to both clubs needs.
 
Many of you keep talking up Pogba's immense marketability, which makes him way more valuable than he otherwise would have been. But what is this based on? What makes him so marketable? I'm not the best judge, but I don't think he's all that great looking...
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
I think if we pull this one off, we might have to give Woody some credit on the football side of the job for once.
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To be fair I think he got a fair bit of credit for both ADM and Falcao. Although I would agree this signing is far more of a coup and demonstration of his negotiating or 'deal-making' skills. Let's hope as well this one works out better than the previous two!
 
ZAGREB RED said:
If it doesn't actually happen now it's going to be a let-down of titanic proportions...
No player is worth £100M but if he signs, stays for a good few years, helps put United back at the top of the pile, it will be money well spent.
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I don't know if you realised, but he'll pay for his transfer fee simply in shirt sales.
Take the bait, lads...
 
whatwha said:
Many of you keep talking up Pogba's immense marketability, which makes him way more valuable than he otherwise would have been. But what is this based on? What makes him so marketable? I'm not the best judge, but I don't think he's all that great looking...
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Looks has nothing to do with it. Ronaldinho wasn't the best looking but his face was everywhere.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
It's GroundPog Day......
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No, that was yesterday.

The above was a joke about "Groundhog day", a day that repeats itself every day, hence it couldn't only be yesterday. The joke was made to lift spirits and lighten the atmosphere in a tense thread, and could thus be considered relevant to the thread topic.
 
whatwha said:
Many of you keep talking up Pogba's immense marketability, which makes him way more valuable than he otherwise would have been. But what is this based on? What makes him so marketable? I'm not the best judge, but I don't think he's all that great looking...
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Rooney is probably our most marketable person atm. Don't think it has anything to do with looks tbh.
 
Rado_N said:
To be fair you initially said that it shouldn't take more than an hour, which is pretty ridiculous.
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Yeah, that's why I said it was a bit tounge-in-cheek. My point was that these negotiations take longer than they should, as we all know how fast a deal can happen and I don't see a point in spending a week or two on something that can be done in a couple of days.
 
Pentame said:
Yeah, that's why I said it was a bit tounge-in-cheek. My point was that these negotiations take longer than they should, as we all know how fast a deal can happen and I don't see a point in spending a week or two on something that can be done in a couple of days.
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Time isn't an issue for them though. They don't care that fans on the internet are getting impatient. If this was happening on deadline day it would be done in hours.
 
I have no idea why we even talk bout marketability. If we signed a player from Colchester United and put him in the first team eventually he would become "marketable".
 
kps88 said:
Time isn't an issue for them though. They don't care that fans on the internet are getting impatient. If this was happening on deadline day it would be done in hours.
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There are several advantages in finalizing deals as early as possible. Mourinho even said that he wanted to gett the stuff done early
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I have no idea why we even talk bout marketability. If we signed a player from Colchester United and put him in the first team eventually he would become "marketable".
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Hardly the same thing. Pogba is essentially a galatico player. He is already a superstar. Him signing for us will launch him into the stratosphere. That means ££££s for both him and us through commercial ventures. This transfer will send shock waves around the football world. It is a massive statement of intent to our fans, rivals and sponsors.

It is so much bigger than what Pogba will contribute on the pitch.
 
JPRouve said:
We found out that the caf doesn't watch football and missed the part where Deschamps played Pogba in his positions but Pogba failed to impress.
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I know you're not stupid, so I am going to assume you either didn't read what I read correctly or are being intentionally disingenuous to try and make a point.

But anyway, in what world is Pogba, a positionally poor defensive player, playing in 'his position' as a #6?

Pogba played LCM for one game during the tournament, that clearly states Deschamps had no idea how to utilise him.
Drz said:
Agreed and the reason he wasn't in his best position was because a player actually worth 100Mil took up the role.
The issues that meant he wasn't ready back then to fill in the central midfield role are still very present and were on show at the Euros.
Only positive for me is that it will inevitably push Rooney out of the starting 11. Though I'd rather see Zlatan up front, with Mikkhi behind him and Rashford along with Martial on either side.
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What?
JPRouve said:
That's a meaningless point, he isn't great but it doesn't mean that he did wrong.
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It isn't meaningless at all - Deschamps mis-managed his troops and failed to get them to either play cohesively as a midfield unit or find a way to best utilise his most talented and creative midfielder, ergo, he did wrong.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Hardly the same thing. Pogba is essentially a galatico player. He is already a superstar. Him signing for us will launch him into the stratosphere. That means ££££s for both him and us through commercial ventures. This transfer will send shock waves around the football world. It is a massive statement of intent to our fans, rivals and sponsors.

It is so much bigger than what Pogba will contribute on the pitch.
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We have zero problems in the commercial department. Our problems are on the pitch.
 
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