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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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He made a qualified guess (he even admitted that) which ended up with him breaking Sir Alex' retirement. He followed that up with being Moyes' lapdog but was left completely out of the loop after LvG was appointed.

I don't even think it was a qualified guess. I think Moyes leaked it to him giving him the scoop of his life, knowing full well he was going to need some friends in the media. He then continued to brief him for the duration of his tenure.

I can't find it now but there was an Ogden interview on Republic of Mancunia, Red Issue or Stretford-End.com (or the like) where he admitted that Moyes used to meet him and another journalist at a Manchester restaurant and feed them stories in favour of support in the press. He'd leak who we were looking at with the intention of building hope or good will with fans.
 
Of course. However, I wonder what SAF will be thinking. This was probably one of his biggest "feck-ups", if you could call it that, and Pogba may become the most expensive footballer of all time. Surely that's gonna hurt your ego a little, seeing him playing every week. He'll get over it though, heh. Can't see Pogba ending up anywhere else but Madrid anyway, so this won't be a "problem".
Im sure he would be able to rationalise it the same way many posters do.

The main point is the one Pexbo (I think) made: the people who were responsible for letting him go are no longer in positions of authority, so there is no reason why embarrassment should get in the way of this.
 
Of course. However, I wonder what SAF will be thinking. This was probably one of his biggest "feck-ups", if you could call it that, and Pogba may become the most expensive footballer of all time. Surely that's gonna hurt your ego a little, seeing him playing every week. He'll get over it though, heh. Can't see Pogba ending up anywhere else but Madrid anyway, so this won't be a "problem".

I don't think SAF is arsed at all, Pogba left in the summer and he won the league that following season. He'll still feel he was right not to bow down to Pogba and play him at that time.
 
The Raiola Fergie stuff meaning Pogba would not join is absolutely horse shit. Who is Ibra's agent?

He'll go to Spain though, soon as Madrid or Barca get in his ear its game over
 
I might be thinking of someone else but I think this came up before and it turned out he was actually a few months short or something.

This is what I was thinking sadly. Regardless to have a player of his quality should be a no-brainer, to have him home-grown would be a bonus.
 
We could wind up with an insane lineup next year - including arguably the best keeper and best midfielder in the world, one of the best strikers, best young player, the German world cup Captain, the English NT captain, and one of the best young English players.
 
The fear with Pogba is that he performs how you would want a 60-80m player to perform and its only a matter of time before he wants to go Real/Barca.

Yes Fergie treated him poorly BUT he just doesnt strike me as a 4 seasons player (in my view the most you can expect these days). I have no evidence to back up my opinion but i see him as more of a Lewa.

Aside from loyalty "guesswork" is he a very good player?, yes. Great player?, im not so sure tbh. Are we saying he's a 10/or an 8 or even a 6? As any of those im just not sure?
 
By all accounts we were chucking stupid offers about last summer to get Muller and Neymar. Why aren't we putting in a serious bid for Pogba who may actually be attainable.

The rumours of Pogba to United keep popping up in the last couple of weeks, so perhaps we are now willing to throw money at him and Juve. I'd be surprised if we are not at least testing the waters.
 
This is what I was thinking sadly. Regardless to have a player of his quality should be a no-brainer, to have him home-grown would be a bonus.

He signed in October 2009 and left in July 2012 which, I think, means he fell about 2 1/2 months short.
 
The fear with Pogba is that he performs how you would want a 60-80m player to perform and its only a matter of time before he wants to go Real/Barca.

Yes Fergie treated him poorly BUT he just doesnt strike me as a 4 seasons player (in my view the most you can expect these days). I have no evidence to back up my opinion but i see him as more of a Lewa.

Aside from loyalty "guesswork" is he a very good player?, yes. Great player?, im not so sure tbh. Are we saying he's a 10/or an 8 or even a 6? As any of those im just not sure?

If not for the debacle leading up to his departure, he would be going into his 6th year here. If he returns, there's a good chance he will stay for the best years of his career.
 
I don't think SAF is arsed at all, Pogba left in the summer and he won the league that following season. He'll still feel he was right not to bow down to Pogba and play him at that time.

True, but our midfield-issues has been haunting us for years. Having Pogba in our midfield these last three seasons would have changed a lot of things. But what is done is done, etc...
 
IF we sign him, we can't allow a situation where he would want to leave again for Spain. Could you imagine the optics if we allowed him to leave under one regime for free, buy him back for a Bristish record fee to then be forced to sell in another four years so he can go to Barca or Madrid? That's why if he bring him in, we need to be sure he's genuine in staying for the long term.
 
We could wind up with an insane lineup next year - including arguably the best keeper and best midfielder in the world, one of the best strikers, best young player, the German world cup Captain, the English NT captain, and one of the best young English players.
Let's dream here for a bit


---------------------------------De Gea---------------------------------
Darmian/Valencia-----------Smalling-----Bailly-----------Shaw/Blind

---------------------Gomes/Schweini------Schneiderlin/Rooney-------------------------
---------------------------Pogba/Herrera-----------------------------------

Mahrez/Lingard--------------------------Ibra/Rashford----------------------Martial/Depay

I have the feeling we will sign 2 defenders rather than 2 midfielders though. Probably Manolas.
 
He's world class. Any player named in FIFA World XI must be considered world class. If you want to compare with Steve G, he featured in FIFA World XI when he was 5 years older than Pogba.
That's cute. at 24 Gerrard was voted Uefa club footballer of the year ahead of all time greats like Pirlo, Kaka, Seedorf (basically whole Milan team), Ballack, Lampard etc
 
No way it's happening. We'll probably sign Andre Gomes and thats it for the midfield.
 
True, but our midfield-issues has been haunting us for years. Having Pogba in our midfield these last three seasons would have changed a lot of things. But what is done is done, etc...

Not sure what that has to do with my post?

You mentioned how SAF would feel and my response is that he no doubt thinks he did the right thing in not playing Pogba back then and he has the trophy collection to back that up, including a Premier League trophy the year after Pogba left.

The idea that SAF would be embarrassed by us buying back Pogba is fantasy stuff.
 
IF we sign him, we can't allow a situation where he would want to leave again for Spain. Could you imagine the optics if we allowed him to leave under one regime for free, buy him back for a Bristish record fee to then be forced to sell in another four years so he can go to Barca or Madrid? That's why if he bring him in, we need to be sure he's genuine in staying for the long term.

I disagree with this. I think we need to get real with the state of football now. That's not to say we think of ourselves as a stepping stone to Real, just that top players these days are difficult to tie down long term. Especially when they aren't local or been there since they were kids.

I think if Pogba came here thinking long term, we'd have a lesser player than one who is motivated to prove himself as the best in the world and earn another huge move when he's 26-28.

We should be looking at buying him for £70m and selling him for £150m.
 
We just have to hope someone shines like a star at these euro championships whilst Pogba gets banned in the first game. Although that could appeal to Zidane!
 
More then happy if he comes here and leaves after 4 seasons.

That's 4 fecking seasons of Pogba! And his fee after those 4 years will surpass £100M.
 
Not sure what that has to do with my post?

You mentioned how SAF would feel and my response is that he no doubt thinks he did the right thing in not playing Pogba back then and he has the trophy collection to back that up, including a Premier League trophy the year after Pogba left.

The idea that SAF would be embarrassed by us buying back Pogba is fantasy stuff.

What you don't get? He won the league yes, but our midfield was still shit and has been for years. Not giving Pogba enough chances was a big failure from his side, and us buying him back for a world record amount surely emphasize that. Nobody likes to be reminded of their failures, and this will be a big reminder for the one time he got it wrong. I don't see that as a fantasy at all.
 
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Jose will truly be the Special One if he can make this happen. Shore up the defense and midfield, and let our young forwards blossom with Zlatan mentoring them.
 
Pogba is 23. If successful, he'll probably be offered a five year deal, of which he'll do at least three. That will.make him 26-27 and hopefully he won't been seen as the newest brightesr shiniest must have bauble, so I could see him.staying for a long time if he genuinely joins.
 
Adding Ibra and Pogba would make us instant favorites to win the league.

Do you think there could be any negative effects from signing both? Obviously both could help to galvanise the squad, lift the team in a manner much the same as Cantona. However, both will expect to be in the line-up week in week out. Ibra as good as he is could decline in some manner be it fitness wise or simply treating this stint as a final payday while Pogba may prove to be less than the lifesaver many expect. We could conceivably be left with two Rooney's shoehorned for half the season.
 
Pogba is 23. If successful, he'll probably be offered a five year deal, of which he'll do at least three. That will.make him 26-27 and hopefully he won't been seen as the newest brightesr shiniest must have bauble, so I could see him.staying for a long time if he genuinely joins.
Then you turn around and realize that his agent is Raiola...
 
Do you think there could be any negative effects from signing both? Obviously both could help to galvanise the squad, lift the team in a manner much the same as Cantona. However, both will expect to be in the line-up week in week out. Ibra as good as he is could decline in some manner be it fitness wise or simply treating this stint as a final payday while Pogba may prove to be less than the lifesaver many expect. We could conceivably be left with two Rooney's shoehorned for half the season.

I'm sure Mourinho can sort that out since he knows a thing or two about management.
 
Pogba is 23. If successful, he'll probably be offered a five year deal, of which he'll do at least three. That will.make him 26-27 and hopefully he won't been seen as the newest brightesr shiniest must have bauble, so I could see him.staying for a long time if he genuinely joins.
Then you turn around and realize that his agent is Raiola...
 
Adding Ibra and Pogba would make us instant favorites to win the league.


I still think we will need a solid RW in order to win the league, but Pogba and Ibra will definitely help bring the fear factor back to United.
 
Is Raiola the new Mendes? :lol:

I would welcome him back to be honest. As some has pointed, I've been waiting for a solid midfield general signing. I have had high hopes with the signings of Bastian, Schneiderlin and Herrera but LVG proved me wrong. I just hope in the coming season, they would prove me wrong. I hope for this to go thru. Come on Jose and Woody! You can do it!

Midfield trio of Herrera-Schneiderlin-Pogba woule be awesome! :drool:
 
I'm sure Mourinho can sort that out since he knows a thing or two about management.

The dismissive tone isn't welcome. Knowing how to manage doesn't equate to solving every issue that arises. Guardiola knows a thing or two about management and fell out with players, one of whom being Ibra. SAF as I'm sure you know fell out with players, made mistakes etcetera all while knowing a thing or two about management.
 
The dismissive tone isn't welcome. Knowing how to manage doesn't equate to solving every issue that arises. Guardiola knows a thing or two about management and fell out with players, one of whom being Ibra. SAF as I'm sure you know fell out with players, made mistakes etcetera all while knowing a thing or two about management.

Wasn't being dismissive. Just pointing out the obvious. Mourinho has already managed Zlatan and both wouldn't reunite unless they had a great relationship and wanted to collaborate again. In Pogba's case he is world class and would surely play all the time.
 
Do you think there could be any negative effects from signing both? Obviously both could help to galvanise the squad, lift the team in a manner much the same as Cantona. However, both will expect to be in the line-up week in week out. Ibra as good as he is could decline in some manner be it fitness wise or simply treating this stint as a final payday while Pogba may prove to be less than the lifesaver many expect. We could conceivably be left with two Rooney's shoehorned for half the season.
I see that as a genuine risk with Ibra but youd just have to trust Mourinho to be strong enough to leave him out, regardless of his expectations, and deal with the fallout from an angry Zlatan. But I dont see it as a significant risk for Pogba.
 
The rumours of Pogba to United keep popping up in the last couple of weeks, so perhaps we are now willing to throw money at him and Juve. I'd be surprised if we are not at least testing the waters.

I really hope so. Putting in massive bids for Muller and Neymar proves we have the money and inclination to spend it but those moves were never going to happen. This could.