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Someone posted that this deal wont happen because Pogba said thanks when Juve wished him luck?
Pogba has manners... the deal is off!
Pogba has manners... the deal is off!
Agree. But that still leaves Juve with needing to get a striker. If Juve wanted thed the "£100m+" (Pogba and Moratta sales) they'd have got it easily by selling Pog to Real and Moratta to Chelsea for about £50m. I think they may not sell to Real just out of principle!
Again, being overpriced is not the problem as I said that I understand the standard United tax. Pogba for 120 mil is laughable as it is beyond overpriced.Yes and I said above Herrera was overpriced didn't I?
Do you think if the German TV money was similar to English TV money that Bayern would get these players on the cheap? They work in a one way market.
Hummels wanted to stay in Germany. Only one option. Neuer wanted to stay in Germany. Only one option. Lewandowski wanted to stay in Germany. Only one option.
Do you think that would be the case in England? If there's s good English player on the market then three or four English clubs will be interested which will drive the price up.
Who else is on his client roster worth raiding?Tancredi saying agent will get €25m.
fecking hell. I wonder how much he has made this summer.
Who else is on his client roster worth raiding?
Is this a wind up? They'd literally piss themselves laughing. Honestly they probably wouldn't sell Verratti for double that.I reckon we can get Veratti for 60 mil especially considering we did business with them only last summer and let them have Di Maria for a reasonable sum.
Sorry guys but as a Juve fan I still find all this hilarious!
And I'm a bit shocked that some of you are already discussing about his shirt number!
Last year he was a Barca player, a month ago Di Marzio talked for days about him to Real... now it's your turn!
Same exact story every year and then he always stays.
As I often said here on RedCafe, I believe that the same will happen this summer, for the simple fact that Paul is happy at Juve (today he tweeted about the "cool" new away jersey, a few days ago he thanked Juve on Instagram after they wished him good luck for the France game... to be honest I doubt that a player with the intention to leave would do this, I guess he would just stay silent and wait...)
We'll see if I will be right or wrong.
If he really leaves I will say sorry.
Good night everyone.
Did Di Marzio ever say Real had agreed terms with Pogba?
I said in another post that it is a moot point as I agree they won't sell but that doesn't make Pogba worth the money. For that kind of fee, I would get a Neymar type player who can win us championships on his own.Why would they sell, even for 100m they don't need money. Its the same with Muller and Bayern last season, not going to happen
Did Di Marzio ever say Real had agreed terms with Pogba?
Shaw, Pogba and Martial creating havoc on the left side, just imagine!
I said in another post that it is a moot point as I agree they won't sell but that doesn't make Pogba worth the money. For that kind of fee, I would get a Neymar type player who can win us championships on his own.
You are right. It's because they are PSG and they don't need the cash. However Juve will be laughing to the bank if we shell out that kind of cash. You know you are in crazy waters when Madrid balk at a fee.Is this a wind up? They'd literally piss themselves laughing. Honestly they probably wouldn't sell Verratti for double that.
I wasn't particularly responding to that point. You have a point about the new TV deal and what it means for the transfer value of players. I was however just venting my frustration at the desperation with which we have been conducting our business. It's been an endless stream of "you get a 30m and you get a 40m and you get a 60m". Some of our fans then like to claim that this is how everybody does it which is simply wrong. As I pointed out before, if only these measures bring success, they would be justified. As it stands though, for us and the rest of English football, they don't or at least, not enough which makes us look like an ugly rich bloke at a club waving the cash.The point previously made Bayern never did this kind of business, wasn't it? From here on, except for German market, clubs would rather wait for English appraisals than letting their players go for cheap to Bayern. The new PL TV kickstarts a different chapter in transfer value since e like of Crystal Palace can offer 30+ mil for a single player and compete in fee with bigger clubs.
exactly what i was thinking i dont remember di marzio ever claiming that Pogba agreed to join any club. Right now im just waiting for other sources to run this story.nope, the juve fella there is pure shitting it
Well this is a nice Eid present!
Neymar type of player would be worth double of that. You know, this year is different than 3 years ago (we were willing to outpay Madrid back then but Bale chose Madrid and Spurs wanted him go abroad plus we had Moyes). This season PL minors can spend 30+ mil on a single player.I said in another post that it is a moot point as I agree they won't sell but that doesn't make Pogba worth the money. For that kind of fee, I would get a Neymar type player who can win us championships on his own.
Did Di Marzio ever say Real had agreed terms with Pogba?
Who else is on his client roster worth raiding?
It had gone mad long back, we are just trying to take it to the next level.£100m+ for Pogba? Football has gone mad. Yet all the muppets are rejoicing, like they have no care in the world. It's one of the big reasons English football is behind the best of Europe - reckless spending.
I will not be happy (but hey, it's not my money, right?) but I desperately hope I'm proven wrong and Pogba, at that price, proves his worth to us. (Through performance and resale, if relevant).
Let this grumpy old man go to bed.
Renato Sanchez is 40 mil plus 40 mil addon. That's 2/3 of 120 mil.
Yes fair enough. It is part of why English clubs are nowhere near the cream of Europe. The belief that you need a 30m + player in every single position when the best teams in Europe make sure to have 2 or 3 game changers plus a strong tactical setup. Ah well, English football ...I agree and that is why I said I could understand the fees if it was a young Ronaldo entering his prime. The examples I mentioned was about getting multiple players for the same fee. Players who would improve us in multiple facets and still probably cost less than Pogba.
Neymar's release clause was supposedly 150 mil till he just signed a new contract.Neymar type of player would be worth double of that. You know this year is different than 3 years ago. This season PL minors can spend 30+ mil on a single player.
I thought you were a Liverpool fan. Am I mistaking you for someone?!Its ok we got Zlatan for free and already have Martial
Neymar's release clause was supposedly 150 mil till he just signed a new contract.
I thought you were a Liverpool fan. Am I mistaking you for someone?!
Thing is he doesn't want to leave = not agree principle with us. You can't persuade the player then feck with the money aka Bale mkII.Neymar's release clause was supposedly 150 mil till he just signed a new contract.
Dam you got skills. I laughed proper hard reading your postListen here, he is going to leave eventually. Everyone knows sooner or later the lion catches the zebra and the zebra gets proper fecked so enjoy that thought over your morning mochachino
For sure it is a crazy fee but it depends how you value his worth.You are right. It's because they are PSG and they don't need the cash. However Juve will be laughing to the bank if we shell out that kind of cash. You know you are in crazy waters when Madrid balk at a fee.
Yes there is tax and a bit complicated but that is why we have a battery of lawyers and why the Herrera and Martinez deals were able to be done without paying too much extra, if any. However the point is maybe I am not really as excited about Pogba for 120 mil as others are and I will leave it at that. Need to get some sleep now before another day in office tomorrow.You do realise foreign clubs have to pay tax on that release clause. It isn't simple as €150m and he is going to be ours. The Herrera and Martinez transfers weren't simple.
Yes fair enough. It is part of why English clubs are nowhere near the cream of Europe. The belief that you need a 30m + player in every single position when the best teams in Europe make sure to have 2 or 3 game changers plus a strong tactical setup. Ah well, English football ...
The splendor of Pogba, Martial, and Rashford working together
Ha apologiesMe a pool fan.... spits at floor, Sir how very dare you!!!!! You are definitely mistaken
That doesn't change the fact that players of his ilk are available for the kind of money being mentioned for Pogba. I will leave it at that for now. Goodnight guys.Thing is he doesn't want to leave = not agree principle with us. You can't persuade the player then feck with the money aka Bale mkII
It had gone mad long back, we are just trying to take it to the next level.
Yes there is tax and a bit complicated but that is why we have a battery of lawyers and why the Herrera and Martinez deals were able to be done without paying too much extra, if any. However the point is maybe I am not really as excited about Pogba for 120 mil as others are and I will leave it at that. Need to get some sleep now before another day in office tomorrow.