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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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steferrari said:
Sorry guys but as a Juve fan I still find all this hilarious!
And I'm a bit shocked that some of you are already discussing about his shirt number!

Last year he was a Barca player, a month ago Di Marzio talked for days about him to Real... now it's your turn!

Same exact story every year and then he always stays. :D

As I often said here on RedCafe, I believe that the same will happen this summer, for the simple fact that Paul is happy at Juve (today he tweeted about the "cool" new away jersey, a few days ago he thanked Juve on Instagram after they wished him good luck for the France game... to be honest I doubt that a player with the intention to leave would do this, I guess he would just stay silent and wait...)

We'll see if I will be right or wrong. :)
If he really leaves I will say sorry. :D

Good night everyone. :)
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I guess we will know soon. I need a confirmation tomorrow :drool:
 
steferrari said:
Sorry guys but as a Juve fan I still find all this hilarious!
And I'm a bit shocked that some of you are already discussing about his shirt number!

Last year he was a Barca player, a month ago Di Marzio talked for days about him to Real... now it's your turn!

Same exact story every year and then he always stays. :D

As I often said here on RedCafe, I believe that the same will happen this summer, for the simple fact that Paul is happy at Juve (today he tweeted about the "cool" new away jersey, a few days ago he thanked Juve on Instagram after they wished him good luck for the France game... to be honest I doubt that a player with the intention to leave would do this, I guess he would just stay silent and wait...)

We'll see if I will be right or wrong. :)
If he really leaves I will say sorry. :D

Good night everyone. :)
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I'm sure he is happy tbh, but Serie A is a dead league.

It's natural that players will gravitate to England/Spain.

This isn't the 90s.
 
Pogba would be a great replacement for Rooney as the face of the club.

Please muppet god let it be so.
 
Honestly don't think it'll happen in the end, but feck if it does then what a window this will be :eek: Still get the feeling that he might choose to stay at Juve in the end and that'll be what keeps us from signing him, not a money issue. We'll see soon though. I'd imagine one way or another it will be sorted this month. Even if it doesn't happen though, for it to get to this stage shows what impact having Mourinho has. Ibra a positive as well, but with LvG you just know we would have no chance in hell, especially with no CL. Champions league with Mourinho seems to be making no difference at all.

Also a side not... For the 120m, would people rather get just Pogba, or both Kante and Draxler for example? Because we would almost definitely be able to bring those 2 in for the money we are apparently giving for Pogba. Both options would be great of course, and shows our financial strength that after 3 excellent signings we can still throw this amount at players.
 
Theonas said:
Some of our fans have been so desperate for success they cling on to the notion that transfers constitute some form of success or that they are an end in themselves. They justify the ridiculousness by claiming that this is the "norm". But oh well, this has been the way the club has been working for few years now and let's just hope we can at least justify it with some success.
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I can understand the standard United tax on players. However the sum being bandied for Pogba is nuts to say the least. It's not like we are getting a Ronaldo entering his prime. This is a young midfielder who I don't even rate as the best young one out there. I would rather we target Veratti who would be equally as good but definitely cost far less than what is being said of here. Heck, I would prefer Kante + Andre Gomes + another young talent for that kind of money as I am sure we can get 2-3 quality players with that sum.
 
Kraftwerker said:
Barcelona and Madrid won't be able to afford the £200m it would take to sign him.

We're leaving them in our wake financially. And now their murky government scam has been unearthed, it's not going to get any easier for them.
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This is all true, but you can't underestimate player power (and in this case, he has Raiola too). If they want to include a clause that's not bigger than, say, £120m, it's over.
 
ti vu said:
Renato Sanchez is 40 mil plus 40 mil addon. That's 2/3 of 120 mil.
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Bringing up one example does not constitute the norm. In fact, Pogba is actually one of the players I don't mind that much overpaying for. My point however was more general about how the club has been conducting itself in the transfer market. It has been one long show of vulgar desperation. As I said before, let's at least hope it works out because I am tired of treating transfers as successes on their own.
 
NK86 said:
I can understand the standard United tax on players. However the sum being bandied for Pogba is nuts to say the least. It's not like we are getting a Ronaldo entering his prime. This is a young midfielder who I don't even rate as the best young one out there. I would rather we target Veratti who would be equally as good but definitely cost far less than what is being said of here. Heck, I would prefer Kante + Andre Gomes + another young talent for that kind of money as I am sure we can get 2-3 quality players with that sum.
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I think we are paying this sum and also the massive wages because Pogba as a commercial asset is really about to explode. He will replace Rooney as the face of the club. Financially in that sense I don't think its a major issue.

Thats IF we get him of course, I can understand the logic

In the post Messi/CR7 era he will be the next superstar in commercial terms
 
bosnian_red said:
Honestly don't think it'll happen in the end, but feck if it does then what a window this will be :eek: Still get the feeling that he might choose to stay at Juve in the end and that'll be what keeps us from signing him, not a money issue. We'll see soon though. I'd imagine one way or another it will be sorted this month. Even if it doesn't happen though, for it to get to this stage shows what impact having Mourinho has. Ibra a positive as well, but with LvG you just know we would have no chance in hell, especially with no CL. Champions league with Mourinho seems to be making no difference at all.

Also a side not... For the 120m, would people rather get just Pogba, or both Kante and Draxler for example? Because we would almost definitely be able to bring those 2 in for the money we are apparently giving for Pogba. Both options would be great of course, and shows our financial strength that after 3 excellent signings we can still throw this amount at players.
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I would choose the second option every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Also if we are keen on being stupid enough to pay that sum for a player not even in his prime, I would rather a proper attacker who will win us championships by himself.
 
NK86 said:
I have no clue what they paid for Sanchez but Martinez and Goetze were not over price considering one was from Bilbao who wouldn't accept anything less than the release clause and the other the pivotal from their fiercest domestic rival. Imagine us getting Aguero from City for 40 mil. Do you think that is overpaying?
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Would City sell to us for £40m? No. Do you think City would sell us Kompany for £22m? Would Spurs sell us Lloris for £16m? Bayerns transfers have come because they can financially bully the other clubs in Germany. And German players want to play for them which helps. Neuer, Hummels, Lewandowski and Gotze had no interest in coming to England or any other country. If we go for a top English player you can bet three or four other players would go after them.

So not sure why the comparison. And how was Martinez not over priced? They paid the release clause. They weren't forced to and could have looked at other options.
 
If this happens, Jose has already set us up for greatness long after he's gone.
 
NK86 said:
I can understand the standard United tax on players. However the sum being bandied for Pogba is nuts to say the least. It's not like we are getting a Ronaldo entering his prime. This is a young midfielder who I don't even rate as the best young one out there. I would rather we target Veratti who would be equally as good but definitely cost far less than what is being said of here. Heck, I would prefer Kante + Andre Gomes + another young talent for that kind of money as I am sure we can get 2-3 quality players with that sum.
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He wouldn't. You'd need to offer an obscene amount of money to buy Veratti. We have money but PSG are swimming in cash and they don't sell players unless they want to. Juve on the other hand aren't as stable financially.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Woody did a deal with Raiola where he would get x for Zlatan, y for Mikhi, z for Pogba, and an extra amount on top if he gets all three.
Raiola would get the same fee wherever he puts his players, but it feels like he is extra motivated to get all three in a Utd shirt next season.
Crafty Woody, very crafty!!
 
The money is crazy. He's not that good. But I 100% want this to happen. Are we honestly believing this is a possibility?
 
For me, about "Real's interest" in Pogba, is now not viable. If they were going to do a deal with Juve, tehy would have used Moratta as a selling tool.

I believe, Real wanted Pogba. Juve said £100m, knowing United will offer that. Real replied, "we'll give you £50m-£60m cash, Moratta's buyback is £25m, so we won't activate that clause. So, you have £60m + £25m Moratta clause, so there's £85m". Juve declined, Real got in a huff and activated the buyback clause.

So since Moratta resigned, the Pog to Real links have gone very quiet. Truly believe, we are the only team with a realistic chance to get him here.
 
Bojan11 said:
Would City sell to us for £40m? No. Do you think City would sell us Kompany for £22m? Would Spurs sell us Lloris for £16m? Bayerns transfers have come because they can financially bully the other clubs in Germany. And German players want to play for them which helps. Neuer, Hummels, Lewandowski and Gotze had no interest in coming to England or any other country. If we go for a top English player you can bet three or four other players would go after them.

So not sure why the comparison. And how was Martinez not over priced? They paid the release clause. They weren't forced to and could have looked at other options.
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We paid the release clause for Herrera as well but being overpriced and being absolutely ripped off are two different things.
 
Kraftwerker said:
Barcelona and Madrid won't be able to afford the £200m it would take to sign him.

We're leaving them in our wake financially. And now their murky government scam has been unearthed, it's not going to get any easier for them.
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Disagree on Madrid. They could easily round up the cash with the sale of Kroos, and Morata.
 
steferrari said:
Sorry guys but as a Juve fan I still find all this hilarious!
And I'm a bit shocked that some of you are already discussing about his shirt number!

Last year he was a Barca player, a month ago Di Marzio talked for days about him to Real... now it's your turn!

Same exact story every year and then he always stays. :D

As I often said here on RedCafe, I believe that the same will happen this summer, for the simple fact that Paul is happy at Juve (today he tweeted about the "cool" new away jersey, a few days ago he thanked Juve on Instagram after they wished him good luck for the France game... to be honest I doubt that a player with the intention to leave would do this, I guess he would just stay silent and wait...)

We'll see if I will be right or wrong. :)
If he really leaves I will say sorry. :D

Good night everyone. :)
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And what about Vidal? He even had a Juve tatoo on his legs, right? I know lot of Juve fans saying "he wont go, he loves our club" and then look where he ended. I remember Chile was playing i think final of some tournement and he had something, Juventus on his football boots.

I do agree with you about the hilarious shirt numbers because it would be, a big transfer. So i hope this happens but you said it too, we'll see.
 
Thing i love about mourinho is, everythings happening so quickly. He's been plotting this plan in his unemployment days and now he's about to rock the world. What a time to exist!
 
red thru&thru said:
For me, about "Real's interest" in Pogba, is now not viable. If they were going to do a deal with Juve, tehy would have used Moratta as a selling tool.

I believe, Real wanted Pogba. Juve said £100m, knowing United will offer that. Real replied, "we'll give you £50m-£60m cash, Moratta's buyback is £25m, so we won't activate that clause. So, you have £60m + £25m Moratta clause, so there's £85m". Juve declined, Real got in a huff and activated the buyback clause.

So since Moratta resigned, the Pog to Real links have gone very quiet. Truly believe, we are the only team with a realistic chance to get him here.
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Well if they manage to sell Morata for 57m also sell James too.... wouldn't count chickens just yet.
 
NK86 said:
I can understand the standard United tax on players. However the sum being bandied for Pogba is nuts to say the least. It's not like we are getting a Ronaldo entering his prime. This is a young midfielder who I don't even rate as the best young one out there. I would rather we target Veratti who would be equally as good but definitely cost far less than what is being said of here. Heck, I would prefer Kante + Andre Gomes + another young talent for that kind of money as I am sure we can get 2-3 quality players with that sum.
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I agree with your general point, maybe not so much with the examples. What Barcelona and Real do is splash the cash on true game changers who usually are playing up front (Suarez, Ronaldo, Neymar, Bale). That is because they understand that these players are what constitute value for money. They win you games single handedly. The same cannot be said about 99% of the midfielders or defenders ever which is why Barcelona can get away with buying Vermaelen and Mathieu and since win a treble. Somehow in this country we manager to never sign those true game changers and still pay ridiculous amounts of money.
 
Womp said:
He wouldn't. You'd need to offer an obscene amount of money to buy Veratti. We have money but PSG are swimming in cash and they don't sell players unless they want to. Juve on the other hand aren't as stable financially.
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I reckon we can get Veratti for 60 mil especially considering we did business with them only last summer and let them have Di Maria for a reasonable sum.
 
I would pay max 50mill for him, hes not a game changer or match winner, but at he same time I don believe any of the rumours, all lies , like the multiple other players we were linked with , all saying contract was done, and nothing even happened

I mean what the hell does agreement in principle mean, and who knows this, and reported it
 
Theonas said:
Bringing up one example does not constitute the norm. In fact, Pogba is actually one of the players I don't mind that much overpaying for. My point however was more general about how the club has been conducting itself in the transfer market. It has been one long show of vulgar desperation. As I said before, let's at least hope it works out because I am tired of treating transfers as successes on their own.
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The point was previously made Bayern never did this kind of business, wasn't it? From here on, except for German market, clubs would rather wait for English appraisals than letting their players go for cheap to Bayern. The new PL TV kickstarts a different chapter in transfer value since the like of Crystal Palace can offer 30+ mil for a single player and compete in fee with bigger clubs.
 
NK86 said:
I reckon we can get Veratti for 60 mil especially considering we did business with them only last summer and let them have Di Maria for a reasonable sum.
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Don't see it. If Veratti was available for 60m every club would be snapping their hands off. He is their best player imo. Also we didn't have much choice with ADM, he was eager to go.
 
NK86 said:
I reckon we can get Veratti for 60 mil especially considering we did business with them only last summer and let them have Di Maria for a reasonable sum.
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Not a chance, when we were linked with him earlier in the summer. Their owner basically called him untransferable and tbh I believe him. He played serious hardball when Barca tried to come in for Thiago Silva. Basically they are not broke and are not a selling club.
 
Theonas said:
I agree with your general point, maybe not so much with the examples. What Barcelona and Real do is splash the cash on true game changers who usually are playing up front (Suarez, Ronaldo, Neymar, Bale). That is because they understand that these players are what constitute value for money. They win you games single handedly. The same cannot be said about 99% of the midfielders or defenders ever which is why Barcelona can get away with buying Vermaelen and Mathieu and since win a treble. Somehow in this country we manager to never sign those true game changers and still pay ridiculous amounts of money.
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I agree and that is why I said I could understand the fees if it was a young Ronaldo entering his prime. The examples I mentioned was about getting multiple players for the same fee. Players who would improve us in multiple facets and still probably cost less than Pogba.
 
MounchesterUtd said:
This is all true, but you can't underestimate player power (and in this case, he has Raiola too). If they want to include a clause that's not bigger than, say, £120m, it's over.
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There will be no clause, and if there is it will be almost double that.

If United sign him for £100m and he performs well, they'd be well within their rights to laugh at any bids that aren't in the £200m region.

There's a power shift happening in football. Without government assistance, the Spanish clubs will have to bankrupt themselves to compete financially.

What's more likely in the next 3/4 years is that United will start going after Real's players.
 
NK86 said:
We paid the release clause for Herrera as well but being overpriced and being absolutely ripped off are two different things.
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Yes and I said above Herrera was overpriced didn't I?

Do you think if the German TV money was similar to English TV money that Bayern would get these players on the cheap? They work in a one way market.

Hummels wanted to stay in Germany. Only one option. Neuer wanted to stay in Germany. Only one option. Lewandowski wanted to stay in Germany. Only one option.

Do you think that would be the case in England? If there's s good English player on the market then three or four English clubs will be interested which will drive the price up.
 
Womp said:
Don't see it. If Veratti was available for 60m every club would be snapping their hands off. He is their best player imo. Also we didn't have much choice with ADM, he was eager to go.
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It depends on the wages we can offer to turn his head. Anyway that is a hypothetical situation and I am sure PSG won't sell him. However the point still remains that Pogba at that price seems crazy.
 
Cassidy said:
Well if they manage to sell Morata for 57m also sell James too.... wouldn't count chickens just yet.
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Agree. But that still leaves Juve with needing to get a striker. If Juve wanted thed the "£100m+" (Pogba and Moratta sales) they'd have got it easily by selling Pog to Real and Moratta to Chelsea for about £50m. I think they may not sell to Real just out of principle!
 
Those really are incredible figures but I suppose marketability contributes to a player's value just as much as footballing ability these days.

I can definitely get on board with this though, especially if it increases the likelihood of Rooney getting sold next summer.
 
NK86 said:
Surely it will be less than what we are tabling for Pogba, not even considering his wages.
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Why would they sell, even for 100m they don't need money. Its the same with Muller and Bayern last season, not going to happen
 
Rightnr said:
Some United fan in Wales must have sacrificed his whole flock to get us to this point. That decision is probably why Wales lost today - it was either Pogba or the national team from the muppet god.
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Fecking cnut. Thought this thread would be safe from any spoilers while watching the replay of the game! :mad:
 
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