Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

The other problem is, once this saga kicks off (which is now has) that's pretty much our recruitment on hold until its sorted - same happened last summer, as our focus will now be on this

I think the likes of Lingard, Andreas and Dalot hold the cards to more signings more than Pogba. We still need another CM regardless of whether Pogba stays
 
All this bravado from Raiola and the Pogba camp but deep down away from reporters and cameras I bet he's gutted there's been hardly any interest in him this summer.

Bayern haven't bitten. Juve haven't. Madrid haven't. Barca haven't. Inter haven't. And it seems the PSG stories aren't as concrete as people were led to believe either. And even then their fans put out a banner saying they didn't want him.

He made a terrible decision to team up with that fat greeseball agent all those years ago. Badly advised and it's been a distraction he simply didn't need.

Free transfer or a new contract are really the only options left because nobody wants him. Nobody thinks it's worth the hassle clearly.
 
He's staying. I've said it from the start and said it in all his threads. He loves it at united and is probably more excited this season due to who we have signed. He loves his house in Hale and his girlfriend zulay is happy in the North West. Her recent instagram story suggests she is working with a Cheshire based interior design firm.

The only way he leave this summer is if the club want him to and someone offers a decent fee. I think ole knows if he is utilised properly he can be unplayable. The club want him to stay.

Next season could be our best for almost a decade. Let's support Paul and let's support the team. Enough of the attacks on his attitude and professionalism which gets nothing but praise by his colleagues.
 
Many examples of it and mostly players are professional enough to perform. See Lewandowski at Dortmund

Yeah you'd like to think players would still perform to their best.

But would they risk injury in the last season, knowing if something happened they would be out of contract and no club next summer.

And although Pogba can be a great player, would United not be better suited to giving the game time to the players who have a future with us?
 
He wants us thinking he might sign a new deal well into next season because a) it generates bigger offers from Real/Juve/PSG that he can sign in January and b) it keeps him in Ole's good books and means he won't be phased out of the team.

Fecking hell man, Pogba is not some sort of evil conniving super hero villain that will do this to manipulate the club into going somewhere else. Jesus Christ almighty this is one of the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here. (and I've written some dumb a*s sh*t on here)

Childlike mentality, fecking hell mate, it's just football, there's no need for these sort of mental gymnastics.

Do you really think him and Raoila sit there and go:

"Yeaaaah let's make them THINK we want to sign a new deal, when in fact we DON'T, that'll surely get us what we want!"

Bloody hell this forum is mad at times.
 
Yeah, I read that one earlier, but there is no mention of him signing a new deal in that tweet.

On a side note, Pogba and his wife have great taste. Cheshire is a great place to live :drool:
Not to say I buy into the tweet itself, but the implied suggestion is that they are settled, therefore, renewing is something settled people would opt for, rather than up rooting and going wherever.

I wish I knew, but I've often heard of Cheshire and Man Utd players. Seems a regular spot for our players over the years.
 

Thanks.

So it turns out he may have been pulling a Rooney all along. I remember despising Rooney when he pulled that stunt. Having his agent spread rumours of a possible move to City or Chelsea. It was painful viewing. Then, seemingly out of the blue, he signed a new contract and I didn't know what to think. Shortly ater that, the truth came out that he simply wanted to the club to show some ambition in the transfer market. It worked, too. He became somewhat of a hero after that.

I hope Pogba is doing the same thing. Because, seriously, feck the Glazers.
 
Fecking hell man, Pogba is not some sort of evil conniving super hero villain that will do this to manipulate the club into going somewhere else. Jesus Christ almighty this is one of the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here. (and I've written some dumb a*s sh*t on here)

Childlike mentality, fecking hell mate, it's just football, there's no need for these sort of mental gymnastics.

Do you really think him and Raoila sit there and go:

"Yeaaaah let's make them THINK we want to sign a new deal, when in fact we DON'T, that'll surely get us what we want!"

Bloody hell this forum is mad at times.
:lol:
They really getting to you aren't they.
I feel your frustration:wenger:
 
All linked? Sounds so conspiracy like. How? :lol:

You literally suggested his handling of the media and agents behavior is the problem to why he can't be a professional on the pitch. When 2 other posters have shown evidence of how he is and can be a professional.
And now you add that he wanted to leave for a few years, cause you know how silly your primary argument.

Then the is the matter of the evidence of this "lack of professionalism" you claim he has? What exactly is this? And remember, how is it linked to his performances on the pitch...
You seriously saying his media handling and agent behavior, and him wanting to leave, are the "lack of professionalism" that's cause him not to perform? Not tactics, not positioning, not lack of form, being injured for half the season? None of those? But the media stuff and agent stuff and him wanting to leave?
So Sancho wanting to leave, lewa wanting to leave, those players can do it, but not Pogba? Because of how he handles the media and his agents behavior? :lol:
I'm seriously struggling to follow. Maybe I am naive cause I just don't see it.

Sounds more like a conspiracy theory that you've concocted about Pogba's supposed lack of professionalism than what is actually true.

I guess best thing to do is, let's check back on this post after the season and see just how professional Pogba's performances were. Since you suggest he had his eye to leave for years, then even if he renews, he's still a player that wants out, but couldn't get PSG or wherever to buy him, so then his performances will also be affected, since he clearly doesn't want to be here, and doesn't handle the media well, and his agents behavior is terrible (the one thing I definitely can agree one, his agent being a cnut)

Time will tell I suppose.

Its all linked in the sense of, if a person has decided to jump ship, their heart/head isnt going to be as committed so naturally they wont perform as well. Its the same in any walk of life, someone working a notice period is proven to be less effective than someone who isnt. This of course isnt a perfect science and some people can continue to be effective, but my assumption is that Pogba's performances would drop lower than they currently are.

In regards the question of lack of professionalism, his media handling and saying he wanted a new challenge whilst putting in average performances, along with how vocal his agent and brother are, are examples of poor professionalism in my eyes, and that to me would impact his performance, it says to me he isnt focussed on the job at hand. I'm not saying there aren't other factors at play as you suggest (position, tactics etc), but off-pitch activity has a huge impact on a players performance.

As you say, lets see what the next few months hold and hopefully you're able to throw these posts back at me following some scintillating, dominating performances, and say "i told you so", i'd happily hold my hands up and say i was wrong!
 
Thanks.

So it turns out he may have been pulling a Rooney all along. I remember despising Rooney when he pulled that stunt. Having his agent spread rumours of a possible move to City or Chelsea. It was painful viewing. Then, seemingly out of the blue, he signed a new contract and I didn't know what to think. Shortly ater that, the truth came out that he simply wanted to the club to show some ambition in the transfer market. It worked, too. He became somewhat of a hero after that.

I hope Pogba is doing the same thing. Because, seriously, feck the Glazers.

It does feel like a shift in the narrative today. Talking about loving the club, seeing a long term future here, being settled with the family.. definitely a leak of sorts.

It feels we are in the middle of negotiations and we know that's Raiola's speciality. I wouldn't rule out him staying. I just want clarity one way or another.
 
Thanks.

So it turns out he may have been pulling a Rooney all along. I remember despising Rooney when he pulled that stunt. Having his agent spread rumours of a possible move to City or Chelsea. It was painful viewing. Then, seemingly out of the blue, he signed a new contract and I didn't know what to think. Shortly ater that, the truth came out that he simply wanted to the club to show some ambition in the transfer market. It worked, too. He became somewhat of a hero after that.

I hope Pogba is doing the same thing. Because, seriously, feck the Glazers.
Did he?? All I ever see here is people vilifying him for that renewal.

It’s the number one thing people list as to why they ‘don’t class him as a United legend.’
Which is a truly shocking opinion to hold as he is a legend here in every sense of the word.
 
I think the likes of Lingard, Andreas and Dalot hold the cards to more signings more than Pogba. We still need another CM regardless of whether Pogba stays
Its not so much that, more that the focus of the club administrators will be consumed with trying to sort this out and they can famously only focus on one thing at a time. Once this kicked off last summer we were done until the deadline day
 
Yeah I get your point, but hard to argue it's not in his best interest to leave on a free and collect a multi-million pound payment from his new club.

from a player standpoint, it makes sense for him as he'll get a big signing bonus and also get his pay raise IF someone is willing to pay he bigger wages than he's getting now

from the clubs perspective you have to look at moving him on if he won't resign or send a message that if guys want to run down their contracts and aren't willing to move on, they'll get moved to the reserves.
 
He is contracted to United until next June and fulfilled his obligations. If he wants a new challenge good luck and goodbye. I am being fair, bro.
Your Varane comparison was in reply to Pogba flirting with Real in 2019 summer after his best season with us. Varane is not similar IMO. That was what I meant.
 
from a player standpoint, it makes sense for him as he'll get a big signing bonus and also get his pay raise IF someone is willing to pay he bigger wages than he's getting now

from the clubs perspective you have to look at moving him on if he won't resign or send a message that if guys want to run down their contracts and aren't willing to move on, they'll get moved to the reserves.
If I read that ridiculous line one more time I'll combust. Or scream.
 
I predict that he’ll stay past the deadline. We will get off to a good start to the season and he’ll sign a new deal in September/October
 
Him and Bruno were knocked out of the Euros one day apart weren't they? Why was he given extra time anyway? I believe that is a valid criticism of the club to allow that as Bruno has been back a few days now at training.

And going off last season's exploits it's Bruno who needed the extended break not a player who turns up when he feels like it. It's Bruno who carried us to almost winning something. It certainly wasn't Pogba.
What a weird thing to get in a twist about.
 
from a player standpoint, it makes sense for him as he'll get a big signing bonus and also get his pay raise IF someone is willing to pay he bigger wages than he's getting now

from the clubs perspective you have to look at moving him on if he won't resign or send a message that if guys want to run down their contracts and aren't willing to move on, they'll get moved to the reserves.
They hardly ever get moved to the reserves. It is a contract that both parties agree upon. No need to let your valuable asset rot for a year, just because he is exercising a perfectly valid and legal option. Do it and your reputation is damaged badly and you get tons of negative publicity that could cost you top players and trophies.
 
On a side note, both him and DDG leaving next season would save us 700k per week in wages. With only the striker position to fill, we can use the next one year to identify the right player to replace Pogba.
 
In regards the question of lack of professionalism, his media handling and saying he wanted a new challenge whilst putting in average performances, along with how vocal his agent and brother are, are examples of poor professionalism in my eyes, and that to me would impact his performance, it says to me he isnt focussed on the job at hand. I'm not saying there aren't other factors at play as you suggest (position, tactics etc), but off-pitch activity has a huge impact on a players performance.
So because other people close to him run their mouths he's not a professional? We hear time and time again of players causing actual disruption in the squad, but that has never been the case with Pogba. Also, why are you still hanging onto a quote he made a few years ago?
 
On a side note, both him and DDG leaving next season would save us 700k per week in wages. With only the striker position to fill, we can use the next one year to identify the right player to replace Pogba.

DDG has a contract until 2023.
 
So because other people close to him run their mouths he's not a professional? We hear time and time again of players causing actual disruption in the squad, but that has never been the case with Pogba. Also, why are you still hanging onto a quote he made a few years ago?

In my eye's yes, exactly that. If the quotes from "his people" were a one-off then I wouldnt raise it, but they're not unfortunately. To me a professional would shut it down and deal with things privately, or as a minimum resolve quickly.
 
On a side note, both him and DDG leaving next season would save us 700k per week in wages. With only the striker position to fill, we can use the next one year to identify the right player to replace Pogba.
Uhm, 700k, where you get that figure from exactly?
My understand, and it's not even in depth but a simple Google check, is that Pogba is on 290k and De Gea on 350k

Not really good at math but I'm certain that comes under 700k, but round of to the highest I suppose. Bit like how 45mil euros become 45mil pounds with journalistic freedom. :lol:

Still 640k is a massive wage though. Will be interesting too see how this season pans out for both Pogba and De Gea. Hopefully things turn around for both of them and they have a blinder of a season this season.
 
I agree about Raiola, but everyone seems to mention him only in relation to Pogba, whereas he's also agent to other high profile players like Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Marco Verratti, Donnarumma, Matthijs de Ligt, and Erling Haaland.

But he really seems to go out of his way for Pogba doesn't he... ?
 
Real payed 30 mil in cash for Alaba to him, agent and family (??). There is a reason why players wait that contract expires
 
Replace "Pogba" with "bitcoin" and this is a proper crypto currency thread.
First we all know he's going.
Then somebody tweets and everybody thinks he's staying.
Then the cycle repeats.

Just to add something to this madness, I'm confident he's leaving.
 
Leaves a bitter taste in my mouth personally the thought of handing him the biggest contract ever at this club when he hasnt set the world alight. AT least DeGea was consistently world class to earn his whopping salary even if he isnt earnign it now....which is relevant to Pogba

Saying that, even so, I would rather sign him on a new contract than allow him to use us for a final season and leave on a free.

But thinking about it, even on a free contract.....29years old and probably another mismash of a season.....who would take him on a free and pay him that kind of salary elsewhere anyway next summer on the continent as for me its still probably only PSG and maybe Juve anyway?

going back to DeGea and why its relevant. Pogba doesnt even deserve on merit a renewal of his contract on the current terms, let alone a huge increase. For me, really it should be an easy decision if there are clubs interested, even at £40m to sell him....of course even then, the cards are in is hands as he can sit tight and see out the final 12 months regardless
 
Rooney, Rio, Keane, Pogba ... One player is clearly the odd one out, especially in mental characteristics.
Compare the performances of Rooney in 2008/2009, Rio in 2004 and Keane in 1998/1999/2000 with Pogba's time here.

Pogba is a distraction - if Pogba gets 400K (or whatever) despite being above average, then what is stopping Bruno from asking the same? What's stopping others (McGuire/Shaw/Bissaka) from negotiating upwards? Surely their agents are observing this.

Bloody hell... still we have this :lol:
 
The frustrating thing is that this charade has gone on every summer for 4 years now.
He has actually been one of our better players on the pitch over the last few years despite not really having his heart in it. Inconsistent and seemingly unmotivated but he can still be class and its a shame we havent seen the best of him.
Although no big clubs seem interested in buying him im sure he will get juicy offers on a free.
Overall though the 5 years of getting his slob agent and family to disrespect the club and demand a move whilst bumping into Zidane in Dubai etc just mean I just dont like the guy.
I will be happy the day he goes
 
400k a week for a player who you have no idea if he will be arsed to show up from one Saturday to the next. Really hope we tell his team to stuff it
 
I hadn’t heard that he was causing issues in the French camp for lackluster work rate defensively. To be fair, I watched all the France matches and it seemed like he was fully engaged, more so than he is with us.

I do think that teams see what we see as fans: a ridiculously talented player and athlete who is error prone in possession, has a poor defensive work rate, makes head scratching errors, tends to have a few injuries, and hasn’t shown consistency. Is a 28 year old with that type of history worth 50m?
Maybe, but imo, not worthy of anything more than £250,000 per week. He's just not consistent enough for anything more.