Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

I say take the risk of Pogba walking away. We’ve brought in two world class players and are now a legitimate contender for the PL and CL.

Say we sell Pogba. You can say goodbye to any conversation about the PL and CL this year. And what would we get? At most 40-45m.

40-45m would be a decent price for Pogba (aged 28) in the current pandemic effected financial climate. He is not the most consistent star is he?
 
Can't even be mentioned in the same breath as Ronaldo, especially in terms of his standing with supporters. Ronaldo gave everything for United, won us so much and was a model professional. We always knew he wanted Madrid at some point, yet he gave us another year when asked and played amazing. No hard feelings towards him from any United supporters.

Pogba on the other hand. Came for huge money, massive fanfare, media circus, arguing with managers during hard times for the club and supporters. He's been inconsistent to say the least and still wants more money, acting like he's got the club over a barrel. Every year talk of leaving and he never squashes it out reassures that he wants to stay.

The guy is an absolute joke and those that defend him are mugs. He's taking the piss out of you all because he doesn't care about United or the supporters, only his legacy and pay cheque.
Bang on.

Those mugs remind me very well of the Joseboys back then. They'll disappear once Pogba is gone, just like when Jose was gone.

In the mean time just ignore them for the better of your mental health, that's what I learn from the Jose time. There's no point in arguing with them because they'll simply ignore your valid arguments, refuse to recognise any truth and deliberately twist any word you say or intentionally stir the debate away if their argument is too dumb. For example now criticising Pogba for being lazy is somehow racist ffs :wenger:

Tbh I couldn't believe people would be like that without some big agenda behind. Which remind me of this:

Reading this thread reminds me of a clip I watched a while ago. It was mostly about the incident in the match against Palace where Pogba lost the ball, jogged about and Bruno run past him to tackle and got the ball back. For Pogba to lost it again in another second, and he was still jogging like it had nothing to do with him.

Thing is, when I searched for the clip it just magically disappeared from the Internet. It was deleted. You may find an article about that clip here though: https://www.givemesport.com/1601163...lip-of-paul-pogba-during-match-goes-viral?amp

While I was searching for said clip I realized one thing. There are some bad highlights about Fernandes like his dives but not a single bad highlight about Pogba. I couldn't find any.

It would not surprise me if there is some professional PR groups working behind the scenes to protect his image. Like any star who generates huge money from his name. Imo only the blind ones or the ones who don't watch the matches wouldn't see the difference between those two. So some of his fiercest 'fans' here probably are just guys who work for those groups I think.
 
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Beckham was criticised for his hair. And his lifestyle. Berbatov and Shaw were heavily criticised for being lazy. Rooney was just as polarising a figure to the fanbase as Pogba, and for many of the same reasons, particularly his agent and his behaviour around contract renewals, and he's the club's record goalscorer for christ sake.

They're not slurs if they are accurate. And they're only historic in the sense that they have been criticisms in football that are used ubiquitously across all races.
Genuinely one of the most disgusting comments I have ever seen on here. Can we please get the banhammer back out here? This is not what I want to see when I come to talk about football
 
I think it would be best for United to sell him now. I don't think he'll be signing a new contract for any reasonable wage, and leave on a free next year. Get a good replacement for him and we can focus on a striker and a CM next year.

He can be class at times, but with Bruno and Sancho, we now have decent creativity. He can't play in a double pivot and is not consistent enough to warrant a change in formation for his benefit. Also he seems to be a bit injury prone doesn't he?
 
Replace "Pogba" with "bitcoin" and this is a proper crypto currency thread.
First we all know he's going.
Then somebody tweets and everybody thinks he's staying.
Then the cycle repeats.

Just to add something to this madness, I'm confident he's leaving.
Have you even bothered to see the threads about him going, and compare that to the ones that imply he will be staying or say it out right. I know which come across as more reliable.
But each to his own. I'm confident his staying.
Players leaving usually aren't part of the promotional kit videos for the upcoming season as well.
 
40-45m would be a decent price for Pogba (aged 28) in the current pandemic effected financial climate. He is not the most consistent star is he?
Id be tempted to swap him for Paredes at PSG. Of course theres always the strong possibility that Pogba has no intention of actually going to PSG. Right now it looks as if hes going to let his contract wind down so hes in the strongest negotiating position with clubs, probably us included.
 
Give him the 400k a week he wants. He's a special special player im convinced if he didn't get injured in February/March time (When ever it was he got that injury) we'd of been in a title race come may that's how important he is! I can't for the life of me understand why some fans wanna see a player with his quality leave the football club it blows my mind. Moments like what he done against Spurs in the first game back from the covid break he comes on and completely changes the game by beating his man and winning the penalty, done it against AC Milan in the Europa aswell and thats just a few examples. He's got things in his locker no player in the world has!
Let's not continue to spread the 400k like it's confirmed he is asking for that. We haven't a clue. But going from 290k to 400k sounds silly really. I could imagine he maybe wants to be matched with De Gea who's at 350k. And even that is a massive jump.
But end of the day yes, I do hope he renews and has a big part to play this season.
 
The distrust regarding Pogba is more to do with Raiola and why Pogba would want to associate himself with such a person.

Here’s the deal guys, for Pogba it is always family first. Football second. Anything that can give them a better life he will do. If that means hiring a bulldog of an agent to get him the most money, so be it. His parents were impoverished immigrants in France and they had to fight a lot to be where they are. So I don’t blame Pogba for always looking family first.

Obviously he feels for the club otherwise he wouldn’t have wanted to return in the first place. He pushed Raiola back hard after that disastrous article right before a crucial CL clash. He remained silent thereafter for the most part.

This is how I see it. It’s all strictly business when it comes to Pogba-Raiola. Even if it means rubbing the fans the wrong way. His teammates love him and the manager reiterated over and over how professional he’s been. So cut the guy some slack. He’s not as bad as some make him out to be.
 
Alex Ferguson would not have brought him back to UTD. And neither would I. Luxury player who thinks he’s better than he is. Winning the league in Italy is not winning the premier league - nowhere near. I’m with Fergie on this - get him out the door. Bring in players who want to be here. Also forget the league next season - city plus Kane and Grealish - that’s the league sorted then!!
 
Alex Ferguson would not have brought him back to UTD. And neither would I. Luxury player who thinks he’s better than he is. Winning the league in Italy is not winning the premier league - nowhere near. I’m with Fergie on this - get him out the door. Bring in players who want to be here. Also forget the league next season - city plus Kane and Grealish - that’s the league sorted then!!
Fergie wanted to keep him the first time. How do you know he wouldn't have wanted to buy him back?
 
Nothing is more annoying than when ‘fans’ say “SAF was right to get rid of him!”

You know nothing, clearly…media sheep.
 
Alex Ferguson would not have brought him back to UTD. And neither would I. Luxury player who thinks he’s better than he is. Winning the league in Italy is not winning the premier league - nowhere near. I’m with Fergie on this - get him out the door. Bring in players who want to be here. Also forget the league next season - city plus Kane and Grealish - that’s the league sorted then!!
I see drunk posting is still in style
 
Have you even bothered to see the threads about him going, and compare that to the ones that imply he will be staying or say it out right. I know which come across as more reliable.
But each to his own. I'm confident his staying.
Players leaving usually aren't part of the promotional kit videos for the upcoming season as well.
Well it doesn't convince me. The only info I believe is when Raiola stated Pogba wants to leave at the end of the season. I am also sure we offered him a contract extension he didn't sign until now.

Everything else is speculation, or club leaking news which they want to become public.
 
Well it doesn't convince me. The only info I believe is when Raiola stated Pogba wants to leave at the end of the season. I am also sure we offered him a contract extension he didn't sign until now.

Everything else is speculation, or club leaking news which they want to become public.
It's not about convincing, it's about the fact that all signs point to him staying.

I agree, him saying that was a shitty thing to do. Many players have been unhappy and wanted to move on, and have engaged behind the scenes with the club to let them know the players intention.
He has a right to feel unhappy and want a change or move to another club, but to do it so publicly is not the best way to do it. Yet in saying that, there is no need to drag the player and hurl insults that has been seen in this thread. Not you specifically, but in general.

Think that's been my main thing in this thread. I'm not a Pogba "defender", but simply calling out the disgraceful insults and comments made that are just unnecessary. Then again, I fully realize it's a pointless exercise, but I'd rather have some push back than see page after page or ignorant and hateful posts I suppose.
There are many though that want him gone, and have been able to say so without needing to resort to insults and slurs.
 
It's not about convincing, it's about the fact that all signs point to him staying.

I agree, him saying that was a shitty thing to do. Many players have been unhappy and wanted to move on, and have engaged behind the scenes with the club to let them know the players intention.
He has a right to feel unhappy and want a change or move to another club, but to do it so publicly is not the best way to do it. Yet in saying that, there is no need to drag the player and hurl insults that has been seen in this thread. Not you specifically, but in general.

Think that's been my main thing in this thread. I'm not a Pogba "defender", but simply calling out the disgraceful insults and comments made that are just unnecessary. Then again, I fully realize it's a pointless exercise, but I'd rather have some push back than see page after page or ignorant and hateful posts I suppose.
There are many though that want him gone, and have been able to say so without needing to resort to insults and slurs.
What do you mean all signs point to him staying? Him pictured in United shirt and somebody tweeting about his family being happy in England? I guess they could be equally happy in Paris.

Is there really so many insulting posts towards Pogba here? I didn't see many, certainly no more than towards our other players like Fred, McTominay (even in this thread there's one guy who mocks them constantly), Rashford, James, Maguire and Lindelof.

The way he and his agent handled that situation (when Raiola said Pogba wants out), Pogba deserves every criticism (not insult) so I have zero sympathy for Paul. It's perfectly fine if he wants to leave, but this drama is making the club look weak which I don't like. I hope we don't move the world just to make Pogba happy and give him a pay rise he hardly deserves, only to see the same situation in a couple of seasons.
 
So many threads could do with a list of information that you have to read before being allowed to post in it. I don’t know how many times I’ve read people claiming Fergie was right to get rid of Pogba. The only way that view makes sense is if the poster was too young to remember it (which is kind of scary in itself).
 
Is he the new Rafael Van Der Vart? Plays 60 min and you take him off if he’s not in form? It”s a legitimate question.

Pogba in a high tempo game where he doesn't get time on the ball and has a lot of defending to do has consistently underperformed. He's not a winger or a 10 either. He should be used against low blocks as a CM and from the bench in other cases. He'll never accept that role in the squad or accept wages that are reflective of that.

He'd be magnificent in L1 (and then so-so in the CL)
 
He's past his best and injury prone.

I'd offer him 200k/week, or 300k/week if he ditches Raiola.
 
Right? It's stunning, and I can only put it down to wilful ignorance, a choice not to see what's right in front of them.
Looks like you've poked the bear...

What is their point of contention? A poster brings up the racism angle and then predictably the naysayers come out. The nerve of you! Pulling the race card! Oversensitive Snowflake, etc.....

I mean, you're stating the obvious. If you go on their social media accounts things are even more overt, and even then you'll still have people pretending it's not a thing because instead of accepting this and maybe moving on, they'd rather argue against it. Can't possibly be racism involved... Noooooo....
 
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I guess psg don't have the money or are happy to wait for a free transfer. Probably helps us short term but hurts us next summer unless an academy player really turns up. Will need a striker and creative midfielder and either of them are never usually cheap.
 
Get rid of him - £90m for what? He's been a huge disappointment for UTD. He was labelled the second coming of christ but in reality he's been average. We fall in love with his dribbles and 50yd passes but have a look how many times he loses possesion. Fred loses the ball but he battles to win it back - Pog just looks around for someone to chase the ball. He's been a circus from the moment he walked into OT. Isnt £250k per week enough anymore? Estimated net worth$125million by the way - poor fecker......... No wonder he's turning down £1million a month. Heart bleeds etc etc
 
Confident of keeping Pogba aka Pogba refuses to move until his contract has run out

PSG are loaded. It’s a joke saying they don’t have the money to sign Pogba. If they don’t pay up it’s solely because they don’t want to.

Yep - it'd be interesting to see if we will end up giving him a big fat contract, history shows the possibility of this happening is very high.

If that happens, we have clearly not learnt our lesson and our recent turnaround with transfer dealings would be undone by this.
 
Yep - it'd be interesting to see if we will end up giving him a big fat contract, history shows the possibility of this happening is very high.

If that happens, we have clearly not learnt our lesson and our recent turnaround with transfer dealings would be undone by this.

I should have added at the end : it’s something because they don’t want to or the player has told them to hold off and Pogba and mino can pocket the extra cash next summer. If he sits out his deal you’ll still have fans defending him till his last day. Pogblinkers
 
Yep - it'd be interesting to see if we will end up giving him a big fat contract, history shows the possibility of this happening is very high.

If that happens, we have clearly not learnt our lesson and our recent turnaround with transfer dealings would be undone by this.
You can’t say that without knowing Ole’s specific plan for the squad and our approach moving forward.

Ole likes Pogba and appreciates the ability he brings to the team, he knows we have nobody near his level in midfield, McFred and Matic are levels below, its a chasm.

To replace and improve on Pogba in that sense is more expensive and very unlikely to happen, name a player with more ability that we can sign for less than another £90 million (plus wages)?

If I’m in Ole’s shoes, building a team and trying to take us to the next level, I would do everything I can to keep Pogba (a player when in form is still arguably our best or certainly most talented player) and improve the DM position to play alongside him.

This is what should have been done instead of the half arsed approach we took of signing Matic who was past it.
 
I should have added at the end : it’s something because they don’t want to or the player has told them to hold off and Pogba and mino can pocket the extra cash next summer. If he sits out his deal you’ll still have fans defending him till his last day. Pogblinkers

Whatever it may be Pogba hold all the cards here, the longer he waits the better offer will arrive.
 
You can’t say that without knowing Ole’s specific plan for the squad and our approach moving forward.

Ole likes Pogba and appreciates the ability he brings to the team, he knows we have nobody near his level in midfield, McFred and Matic are levels below, its a chasm.

To replace and improve on Pogba in that sense is more expensive and very unlikely to happen, name a player with more ability that we can sign for less than another £90 million (plus wages)?

If I’m in Ole’s shoes, building a team and trying to take us to the next level, I would do everything I can to keep Pogba (a player when in form is still arguably our best or certainly most talented player) and improve the DM position to play alongside him.

This is what should have been done instead of the half arsed approach we took of signing Matic who was past it.

Did you not watch our games last season that Ole prefers McFred over Pogba in CM? Or are you one of those that thinks buying a DM will magically resolve his deficiencies and balance with Pogba and Bruno in the team?