He hasn't said anything though. The summer of 2018 (?) was the only time he suggested he wanted to leave. It all comes back to Mino's comments winding you up.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Thanks! And yes, I've had that same reaction to accusations of him getting caught on the ball. Every single player out there gets caught on the ball. It's a fast-paced high-pressing sport, arguably more than ever now, and it's part of every single player's experience. I agree with all your points.
I've said it a few times now, with Pogba the hate is quite personal. And that's here's which is a sanitised place. Don't even want to imagine the abuse on other online platforms.
I'm glad I took the time to try and articulate it. At first I was expecting a big pushback from those who want rid of Pogba, and when I saw my notifications I feared the worst, but it's been a pleasant surprise to see how many of us feel this way about the player and how the narrative has been so self-defeating.
Off the back of his “best season” he said it was time for a new challenge somewhere else
Mino’s comments do wind me up, you’re not wrong there!
I was hoping that the next muppet train was an incoming player, not one potentially leaving.
The former is not as fun as the latter.
The former is not as fun as the latter.
Yes, I've noticed this too. Even from the pundits, who should know better than directing such dog-whistle animosity at him. Graeme Souness (I love that autocorrect always prefers it to be spelled Sourness) in particular went pretty much full-on "You kids get off my lawn" at Pogba, and many of his criticisms contained the kind of tropes often aimed at, let's say, nonwhite people.
Comments from 3 years ago. And what's so bad in someone saying it might be time for s new challenge?
You people take football too seriously.
The ones who can’t articulate their negative agenda well enough will have avoided a well constructed post like that.
They are out in force now though with the ‘get rid of the virus’ and their favourite key word ‘circus.’
I don’t think any of them have been to a circus to be honest.
Let me get this straight:
1. Godfather suggests that most players are professional enough to perform even as they run out their contract...suggesting Pogba is capable of that.
2. You then suggest that that is the problem, clearly meaning you think Pogba can't be professional enough to perform while running down his contract...
3. Hellhunter then alludes to how coaches have spoken well of his professionalism and that basically he is capable of being a professional and do what Godfather suggests.
I'd add even with how Jose literally gave him HELL and threw him under the bus and made him the scapegoat, he still maintained his professionalism under those conditions, just like Shaw and other players Jose gave hell.
4. And then you drop this gem of "logic" his handling of the media and the behavior of his agent show he can't be professional and perform well on the pitch...
Uhm...how do you make that mental gymnastics possible? What does that have to do with him being able to be a professional and perform to his best while his contract is on the last year...just how?
Yes because football clubs always do this in real life.
That's why the likes of Alaba, Ramos, Wijnaldum, Depay and Donnarumma spent all last season rotting away on the bench and youth teams
I'm sure Mbappe will be rotting on the bench this season too just like Messi did last year.
Lot of you are gonna have to get a grip on reality eventually because he's more than likely going nowhere this summer and the manager/club still rate him
It's beyond laughable now. Some of these posts are so ridiculous in this thread I'm not sure if it's a pisstake or not. How Pogba manages to wind up so many people for no reason is almost funny.
You can go further than him maintaining his professionalism under Jose - he was a key reason he kept his job as long as he did.
Yeah, the virus insult is particularly nasty. And completely negated by the supportive words of his teammates.
The only time they've been to a circus is when they all piled into one tiny car.
Yeah this gets forgotten so easily. Pogba behaviour was incredibly professional.
But after Jose was sacked, likes of Gary Neville led the Twitter mob against him.
At least have the balls to say racism if you're gonna hint at it. I don't hate pogba but I certainly see why others do and there's absolutely no reason to think it has anything to do with race. But sure, any disdain towards how anyone acts now has to have some deep rooted meaning. He's a frustrating player that's done nothing to appease the fan base he plays for. He knows what his agent is doing (as he made him reel it in once before).
The fact that we have people on here who are happy for him to run down his contract and walk away for free again whilst his agent and brother continues to belittle our club is astonishing.
Remember the night before Leipzig game when Raiola ran his mouth?
Personally if it was me offering a contract I'd tell him he could only sign it on the basis he sacks his agent first. That fat greeseball deserves nothing.
It’s all linked don’t be naïve, if he doesn’t want to be at the club and has his eyes elsewhere, do you seriously believe he will perform to his best (which isn’t that good to begin with, but that’s a different debate)? He’s wanted to leave for years, it’s bound to have a negative impact on his performances.
I’m not disputing some players can still perform in their final contract year as others have suggested, but the lack of professionalism in the areas I’ve said along with the fact he’s wanted to leave the club for the past few years, leads me to the conclusion that he’ll perform even worse next season than he has in recent years.
This is what people are saying that it isn't true. His stats gets posted and then some discussion happens but then the other side arrives with same line "he hasn't performed for us" and keep repeating it in every post.
Has he performed at the level he could? I don't think so but to say he hasn't done anything at United is preposterous.
If we give him x-amount then we will have forecasted for another lockdown and that’s our responsibility to factor in, not his.
On the bolded, that’s just rubbish, he was class for France (yet again.) He’s considered world class throughout the game, only sections of our fans here think otherwise…
He’s invariably one of our best players when fit, was the same last season. We relied on his creativity when Bruno faded. Now posters like yourself pretend he was awful last season, nonsense.
If he was playing with midfielders half as good as he does for France (and previously at Juve) you would see the best of him, we only see half of that player and he’s still invariably one of our best performers.
Who will you have to blame when he leaves and McFred are sideways passing us to sleep next season and Bruno is our sole creative outlet? Ole no doubt, or similar posters will probably turn on Bruno again.
Either way, I want this to be sorted before the season starts. We can't afford the speculation of will he/won't he sign to derail our preparations and our season. The stakes are too high for Pogba to ruin it with his and his agents b*llocks. Either sign the contract or Utd organise a transfer.
Nobody wants him.
Varane has just moved to United for a "new challenge".
People aren't happy that he could walk away for free if you haven't noticed. They want him to stay and renew or be sold this season if he does not renew.
But it's his prerogative to see the best deal out there. He gave his best years to United when we were dogshite. If he thinks he could go somewhere else to win trophies then so be it and we will recover. At the same time if he can make more money, don't think of it as an issue. It's just realities of life and he is being called names for something we all do in our professional life.
Rio was called a drug addict when he wasn't renewing. So I can understand the personal abuse Pogba is getting now but that doesn't mean people should join in.
His agent makes a lot of noise and does what he does. But since he doesn't play for United I don't care. I think you should not too but it's just a suggestion
I mean personally (again only my opinion). It isn't what he's done on the field. It's about everything off of it. Since he signed his agent, his family, and other clubs have been angling for a move to a new club. Literally every single year. He's shown he's been willing to leave but at the same time won't allow the club to sell him. We've seen the exact scenario with Donnarumma play out just a few months ago and that's likely to happen here. People are expecting it so their dislike for Pogba is exacerbated. Look at varane, we just signed him but he made it clear he wanted to leave Madrid and allowed the club to get some money for him. That's all most of us want from pogba, to stop playing the contract game and say what he wants, but he won't, because he stands to make more money from now. That's his right and he can do it, but fans have every right to be frustrated with it.
On the pitch, I'm whelmed by him. He's won some games for us on his own and he can be exciting to watch. Other times he disappears. I'd call him a successful player for us overall but certainly not worth a record fee and certainly not worth dealing with constant links of him leaving.
Look, I like Pogba as a player, even as a man I do as well. His principles relating to such causes as Palestine and anti-racism are admirable beyond reproach.
However, we can't ignore that his agent has badmouthed the club on his watch. The last time of which, was on the eve of our most important Champions League tie. Likewise, his brothers have been talking ceaselessly and without abandon about theirs and his desire to leave the club and move on to Real.
That just cannot be ignored. Look at Cavani's reaction, when his dad said that he was leaving. That was respectful. Pogba's silence whenever Mino or his brothers said something was deafening.
Fair enough. His performance on the pitch hasn't been to the level you expect but in my opinion that's also because we didn't have a great team around him also. So I don't see his performance in isolation.
As far as his family ( only his brother who gets paid to say ) or his agent is concerned, as I said in other post, since they don't play for us, I don't care anymore. It's just isn't worth anyone's time
Varane spent ten years at the same club and won a ton of trophies. Pogba hasn't won much here, and the challenge is just beginning as we muster the squad but he wants to leave. No, it's not for a new challenge, methinks.
Be fair, Sultan.
All linked? Sounds so conspiracy like. How?
You literally suggested his handling of the media and agents behavior is the problem to why he can't be a professional on the pitch. When 2 other posters have shown evidence of how he is and can be a professional.
And now you add that he wanted to leave for a few years, cause you know how silly your primary argument.
Then the is the matter of the evidence of this "lack of professionalism" you claim he has? What exactly is this? And remember, how is it linked to his performances on the pitch...
You seriously saying his media handling and agent behavior, and him wanting to leave, are the "lack of professionalism" that's cause him not to perform? Not tactics, not positioning, not lack of form, being injured for half the season? None of those? But the media stuff and agent stuff and him wanting to leave?
So Sancho wanting to leave, lewa wanting to leave, those players can do it, but not Pogba? Because of how he handles the media and his agents behavior?
I'm seriously struggling to follow. Maybe I am naive cause I just don't see it.
Sounds more like a conspiracy theory that you've concocted about Pogba's supposed lack of professionalism than what is actually true.
I guess best thing to do is, let's check back on this post after the season and see just how professional Pogba's performances were. Since you suggest he had his eye to leave for years, then even if he renews, he's still a player that wants out, but couldn't get PSG or wherever to buy him, so then his performances will also be affected, since he clearly doesn't want to be here, and doesn't handle the media well, and his agents behavior is terrible (the one thing I definitely can agree one, his agent being a cnut)
Time will tell I suppose.
Well obviously you have to get his consent to sell him, but you can also throw him into the reserves if he doesnt want to be sold or renew. There's many things the club can do to "punish" him, but there's no need for that I think if his plan is to run down his contract he wont have a problem with him being sold of course considering a reduced fee due to the situation.
Noise coming out today suggests he might sign a new deal.
He is contracted to United until next June and fulfilled his obligations. If he wants a new challenge good luck and goodbye. I am being fair, bro.
Its still as up in the air as it was yesterday
I thought it was generally looking like he was going the other day.
Leaked to the media today that he loves United, his family are happy living in Cheshire and he's excited by the new signings.
It all feels like part of the negotiations.
Would not be surprised if he stays and signs.
Where did you hear that, have you got a link?
Signing a new deal will change everything.
Well, he was included in today's promotional kit video for this season. Which at least indicates he will be here for the new season.
Contrary to popular belief, I do not think he wants to feck over the club he came back to to try and bring back to glory, and gave the best of his years for. I feel like he will renew.
That, or he leaves on a free. Which is his right to, sucks but we will still be here and fighting to get back to where we should be.
I'll have a look. It was Lockhurst I think.
If he stays then great but it feels like we're being played good and proper, all so he can walk for free next summer
He's going to face Tevez & Di Maria levels of hate if we ever play against him in the future if this is all a ploy to walk for free
He's going to face Tevez & Di Maria levels of hate if we ever play against him in the future if this is all a ploy to walk for free
The other problem is, once this saga kicks off (which is now has) that's pretty much our recruitment on hold until its sorted - same happened last summer, as our focus will now be on this