Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

He and Mino want a big fat pay day signing bonus which both will get when he goes into the free market....fuk that, sell his ass or put him in the reserves

United can't force him to sign for someone else.

Will be interesting to see the reaction he gets at OT if he is just running his contract down.

How any club or Manager could trust a player in those circumstances is beyond me.
 
Either sell him now or bench him all season long then we will see how much PSG will offer him when they get him on a freebie. What an absolute mercenary he is
 
I like Pogba but this needs sorting before the start of the season, if he’s not fully committed to the club we need to move on. It’s a huge season for Ole and it’s not fair on him to have to answer questions every week about if he’s staying or not. I’m sure there would be plenty of takers if he was available for £30 mil or so and I get the feeling that’s what PSG will likely offer late in the window.
It’s a shame it hasn’t worked out how we all hoped but unfortunately his time here is gonna be remembered more for his off the field transfer rumours than what he achieved on the pitch
 
Pretty clear no one else is going to take him on for the money, certainly not this window. He must realise there aren’t many options out there for him and, reading the latest rumours, it seems he’s open to staying now, or at least it’s some PR because he knows he’s stuck with us for the imminent future. Either way, it is what it is. I will say I would almost be sick in my mouth at us rewarding him with anything above £350k per week mind you, but I have no control over that so I won’t sweat it.

Him going or staying doesn’t really matter much to me either way. He’ll never be my favourite United player but there’s no doubting his talent either. I wonder if the addition of some more top class stars will motivate him. But that is probably what pisses me off, he’s paid to be motivated regardless but I guess that’s another argument.

Anyway, let’s just hope we can add another deeper lying playmaker if we are going to be lining up with Pogba. McFred aren’t the ones to be on the pitch with Bruno and Pogba at the same time.

Sort it out Ole.
 
There's only q and r between P and S so bye Paul and hello Saul. :)
 
Pretty clear no one else is going to take him on for the money, certainly not this window. He must realise there aren’t many options out there for him and, reading the latest rumours, it seems he’s open to staying now, or at least it’s some PR because he knows he’s stuck with us for the imminent future. Either way, it is what it is. I will say I would almost be sick in my mouth at us rewarding him with anything above £350k per week mind you, but I have no control over that so I won’t sweat it.

Him going or staying doesn’t really matter much to me either way. He’ll never be my favourite United player but there’s no doubting his talent either. I wonder if the addition of some more top class stars will motivate him. But that is probably what pisses me off, he’s paid to be motivated regardless but I guess that’s another argument.

Anyway, let’s just hope we can add another deeper lying playmaker if we are going to be lining up with Pogba. McFred aren’t the ones to be on the pitch with Bruno and Pogba at the same time.

Sort it out Ole.

Who should we add as the other deeper lying playmaker that cannot afford to dally on the ball like Pogba has a terrible habit of doing in those very dangerous positions
 
The ego of this player and agent holds no bounds. Last year of his deal and still no takers for him. Probably available for as low as £40-45m and still nobody wants him. What does that say about him? This apparent PSG interest is seemingly not true either. They have already pushed on with 3 to 4 other signings this summer.

If KDB had one year left on his deal you'd have a queue as long as the M60 to sign him.

If we give him 400k a week we need our heads checking. Offer him a contract on his current terms and say take it or leave it. He's not deserving of a payrise anyway. He's done nothing to earn it.
 
I like Pogba but this needs sorting before the start of the season, if he’s not fully committed to the club we need to move on. It’s a huge season for Ole and it’s not fair on him to have to answer questions every week about if he’s staying or not. I’m sure there would be plenty of takers if he was available for £30 mil or so and I get the feeling that’s what PSG will likely offer late in the window.
It’s a shame it hasn’t worked out how we all hoped but unfortunately his time here is gonna be remembered more for his off the field transfer rumours than what he achieved on the pitch
Generally, players on their last season of contract play their best football. They need to excel to gain admirers and the best possible contract. The risk they take not signing a contract extension is a serious injury hitting them which would be fatal.
 
Very true, for £90m you expect a consistent 7/8 out of 10. I guess im a sucker waiting for the "when" of that part.

Out of curiosity. We get the supposed £40m for him, where do we go to replace him with an upgrade? Of course we have no clue of the overall budget, but whos the guy?
Yes, that is a real question. I think the way the team is shaping up with Bruno as our attacking fulcrum and the front 3 finishing, I would think we would want a different type of player, either a Fabinho / Casemiro type DM or a Jorginho type deep lying playmaker paired with a destroyer in the pivot.

none of the players we have been linked with fit those archetypes IMHO.
 
Generally, players on their last season of contract play their best football. They need to excel to gain admirers and the best possible contract. The risk they take not signing a contract extension is a serious injury hitting them which would be fatal.
There's a reason for the term 'having a contract year'
 
if that report is true, surely Ole just leaves him with the u23’s all season. No point in him playing him, we’d be better off playing Lingard or Andreas.
 
if that report is true, surely Ole just leaves him with the u23’s all season. No point in him playing him, we’d be better off playing Lingard or Andreas.

Yes because football clubs always do this in real life.

That's why the likes of Alaba, Ramos, Wijnaldum, Depay and Donnarumma spent all last season rotting away on the bench and youth teams :rolleyes:

I'm sure Mbappe will be rotting on the bench this season too just like Messi did last year.

Lot of you are gonna have to get a grip on reality eventually because he's more than likely going nowhere this summer and the manager/club still rate him
 
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if that report is true, surely Ole just leaves him with the u23’s all season. No point in him playing him, we’d be better off playing Lingard or Andreas.
That worked when lads were on 30k a week and rarely used for media, not when you've used someone to front every one of your marketing campaigns
 
The ego of this player and agent holds no bounds. Last year of his deal and still no takers for him. Probably available for as low as £40-45m and still nobody wants him. What does that say about him? This apparent PSG interest is seemingly not true either. They have already pushed on with 3 to 4 other signings this summer.

If KDB had one year left on his deal you'd have a queue as long as the M60 to sign him.

If we give him 400k a week we need our heads checking. Offer him a contract on his current terms and say take it or leave it. He's not deserving of a pay rise anyway. He's done nothing to earn it.
Well, as a free agent he will, along with his agent get a massive signing on-fee in the region of 30/40 million (see Alaba). I always say there is no such thing as a free transfer. He's already on a massive salary so there's not much hurry or incentive for Pogba and his agent. It's financially in his interest to hold off and see what offers are out there come next January/June. If he has a massive season United could also offer him similar incentives as other top clubs as a free agent.

Anyway, It's his prerogative and pointless getting worked up. No doubt we will get chances to sign some of the best players on so-called free transfers in the future.
 
In isolation, as a player, I would love him to stay. But when you factor in everything (what our squad needs, the wages he would demand, dealing with Mino), I can’t say I’m that arsed either way.

I’m personally not a fan of transfer fees altogether and I see a future with more trades and free transfers. If Madrid didn’t need the cash right now as badly as they do, a Varane-Pogba swap would’ve suited everyone.
 
The ego of this player and agent holds no bounds. Last year of his deal and still no takers for him. Probably available for as low as £40-45m and still nobody wants him. What does that say about him? This apparent PSG interest is seemingly not true either. They have already pushed on with 3 to 4 other signings this summer.

If KDB had one year left on his deal you'd have a queue as long as the M60 to sign him.

If we give him 400k a week we need our heads checking. Offer him a contract on his current terms and say take it or leave it. He's not deserving of a payrise anyway. He's done nothing to earn it.
So running down his deal because he doesn't have many options shows he has a big ego? What should he do just sign whatever contract United offer him?

A lot of people acting like players running down their contract is uncommon. We've seen high profile transfers with Gini, Donnuruma and Alaba this summer and Lewandowski a number of years ago.
 
United can't force him to sign for someone else.

Will be interesting to see the reaction he gets at OT if he is just running his contract down.

How any club or Manager could trust a player in those circumstances is beyond me.

agreed you can't make him go to a club but you can certainly hint that it would be in his best interest to consider if he has intends to run out his contract
 
United can't force him to sign for someone else.

Will be interesting to see the reaction he gets at OT if he is just running his contract down.

How any club or Manager could trust a player in those circumstances is beyond me.

Many examples of it and mostly players are professional enough to perform. See Lewandowski at Dortmund
 
Yes because football clubs always do this in real life.

That's why the likes of Alaba, Ramos, Wijnaldum, Depay and Donnarumma spent all last season rotting away on the bench and youth teams :rolleyes:

I'm sure Mbappe will be rotting on the bench this season too just like Messi did last year.

Lot of you are gonna have to get a grip on reality eventually because he's more than likely going nowhere this summer and the manager/club still rate him

The big difference being those players you mentioned still performed for their clubs and were respectful to the club and it’s fans, throughout their contracted period.
 
Generally, players on their last season of contract play their best football. They need to excel to gain admirers and the best possible contract. The risk they take not signing a contract extension is a serious injury hitting them which would be fatal.
I’m not sure Pogba would fall into this category, he could easily take the year off coasting and I doubt any big club wouldn’t be interested based on his ability or form. It would be a massive gamble from Ole and the club if he doesn’t leave or sign a new deal to just leave him out every week especially if we aren’t winning but I think the precedent it sets would be worth it long term (more so the club than Ole I guess) and it at least looks like we’re sort of taking charge of the situation.
The risk/reward for clubs now is how much extra is it gonna cost them to sign him now with few others capable of making offers compared to signing him on a ‘free’ when Raiola wants his extra cut and can pimp him out to whoever offers the most
 
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The disgust for Pogba on this forum is disgusting, bordering on personal hatred for the guy.
 
Ok then do you think he is worth twice what Bruno is? Or Bruno and Rashford combined, or Maguire and Greenwood. He offers more as a brand probably but nowhere near that sort of money. He and his fat rat of an agent are just in it for themselves and have played the game very well(playing us for mugs again), in that we are now offering him way more money than he’s worth so we don’t lose a £89 player for nothing.

Our revenues may have changed massively from when Rio and Roy where looking negotiating but I don’t remember Roy looking for twice the Scholes was getting or Rio twice what Vidic was getting.
It’s prob a bad comparison anyways because although both negotiated hard to get top dollar they were Utd through and though that lead by example both on and off the pitch.

We are negotiating a huge contract for Bruno if reports are to be believed and Rashford was given a bumper contract 2 years back when he 21. Think when he renews, he will earn close to what we are offering Pogba.

And Rio salary was much higher than Vidic. I don't remember by how much though but I will try to find something and post here.

Again salary include the money we pay for image rights and it's not a very simple comparison then. Bruno and Pogba might get same base salary ( Pogba base salary is rumoured to be 144k by football leaks document) but image rights maybe double or triple depending on the player profile. Then when it is divided by weeks, you start seeing the difference. This is lost on so many here as they just see the final value
 
I don't doubt it for a second, but could you really fault him for that?
I dont fault him. In the end, both club and players need to look after themselves. Only the fanboys come up with a "holier than thou" justifications for simple money grab tactics
 
Fantastic post.

This narrative has been happening to a number of our players in particular to Lingard, Shaw, Martial and now it seems Rashford and even Greenwood at his tender age getting overly criticised by our own fans forums. Those pointing fingers at Pogba for what's said and done by Raiola he's been given the mandate to get him the best deal. He's not there to be liked by us fans or the club.

Once a player gets targeted by a section of fans, it almost seems to feed off itself and snowballs quickly. I don't know if it's to do with modern fandom, social media, short-termism, a lack of perspective on the bigger picture, or what. But it can become very unforgiving and dogmatic.
 
I love watching him play but this needs to be resolved this summer. Either sign a contract or do everything to sell him.

I know many big names have made to free transfer but the media speculation and circus around him would make this last season unbearable.

I'd love for us to move to a 433 with Pogba and Bruno sharing defensive and attacking resposibility. That would mean signing Pogba to a big new deal and get a better holding midfielder, but that seems unlikely to come to fruition this summer.
 
His handling of and comments in the media, along with the behaviour of his agent do.
He has not said anything about his contract. Pogba has not disrespected the club in anyway. You need to lie down.
 
So running down his deal because he doesn't have many options shows he has a big ego? What should he do just sign whatever contract United offer him?

A lot of people acting like players running down their contract is uncommon. We've seen high profile transfers with Gini, Donnuruma and Alaba this summer and Lewandowski a number of years ago.
Not to mention, if fans could get out of their own fandom, everybody here would do something similar. You want to have control over your career and not be held back by a transfer fee where your possible destinations are limited. You only get one career, and it can get cut short in any game. I definitely understand most people side with their club and have loyalty towards that club so anything like that is seen as disrespect or being a mercenary, but I always tend to lean more towards player power and I also think we are only seeing the beginning of more and more high-profile players running down their contract, which will be to the benefit of most clubs dealing with the pandemic and short on cash.
 
I like a lot of what you said here. Pogba does play better in a certain system and great teams would build more towards this. That all said one thing you leave out here is Raiola. He has helped fuel this negative narrative and made things messy. The part of me that does not take well to Pogba is all tied here, by the player's own choice, to associate with this guy who does NOTHING to help team's achieve greatness.

I agree about Raiola, but everyone seems to mention him only in relation to Pogba, whereas he's also agent to other high profile players like Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Marco Verratti, Donnarumma, Matthijs de Ligt, and Erling Haaland.