Yeah. The irony is the squad is actually looking better than at any time since before Pogba came. Possibly he see this and decides to stay. Possibly he starts playing to his potential more of the time; that would be a thing to see and could be the factor that turns us into winners again.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Give me one reason why he would be mentally in it next season when he doesn't see his future here anymore and wanted out a long time ago. Better to wrap himself up for his new club.
Again, I didn't say he wouldn't be an option, but he wouldn't be a main starter either.
If he stays for another year, I'd expect him to be out 'injured' for a good chunk of it.
But it's our fault that he's entering his final year at the club without taking a decision on his future. We let him run down his contract this way. We should have sold him last summer or the even the one before it with him not wanting to renew. Under no circumstances you should go into the player's final year of contract without being sure of his renewal, especially a player you have invested shit ton of money into.
The way we managed Pogba's future at the club these last few years was honestly not good at all. He wanted to leave for a long time and we kept failing to convince him to renew but at the same time refused to let him go. Ultimately we are now looking forward to losing him for free.
Except he isn't weak off the ball. There's an absolute litany of examples that demonstrate it. When a player plays in a midfield two and has games where he wins the ball back more than Kante, he's doing something right. And your reductive argument that it was in some way the midfields fault France failed doesn't float. Pogba, in that deeper role, not only was winning the ball back regularly, but also creating a hat full of chances for misfiring attack.
Ya let’s improve Liverpool
I feel he would make them worse as a unit. No need to raise your eyes. It's a fairly reasonably opinion
.I felt the same when Depay, who is also a very talented player, was linked with going to the dippers.
Well PSG haven't given him a pre-contract yet, if he doesn't play well, they could well get cold feet and not want to sign him at all.
Its in his best interests to perform well, at least until PSG actually give him a deal.
Except PSG will put in their mind he's not performing because he doesn't give a shit about his current club anymore, and not because his form is actually shit.
For those who believe he would join Liverpool :
First of all - I don't think he would join Liverpool, that he has a bit more respect for OGS, his teammates, and the fans
But even if he did - and Liverpool did want him: their highest paid player makes around £200.000 a week - it would destroy their wages if they sign Pogba who would at least ask close to double of what someone like Salah has.
First of all - I don't think he would join Liverpool, that he has a bit more respect for OGS, his teammates, and the fans
But even if he did - and Liverpool did want him: their highest paid player makes around £200.000 a week - it would destroy their wages if they sign Pogba who would at least ask close to double of what someone like Salah has.
I agree with you, but the problem here is that there is a possibility we don't receive a good enough offer. When you count his wages along with a transfer and agent fee in a situation where the other club can sign him for free in 6 months time we can easily find ourselves in a situation where PSG will go for no more than 40 million € or even less. There is also a chance they might wait for a year.
They know we also probably need money for further investments in the team and midfield position needs to be sorted with Pogba going or not so they will definitely try to lowball us.
I think we should try to offload other players like Lingard, Bailly, even Martial under condition there is a good enough offer and go for a midfielder because we need one regardless of Pogba going or not.
In any case, the worst case scenario for me is also +400k contract. Our transfer dealings this summer give me optimism we will handle the situation well whatever scenario might occur going forward with Pogba.
I'd like to think that nobody is as stupid as that.
I can't even think of any player who's downed tools in the last year of his contract to save himself for his new club. Then again, people love to character assassinate Pogba, so...
I mean the link is obvious horseshit, I'm just entertaining it as a hypothetical.
I think if he went there, he'd destroy wages, create disharmony in the squad, unbalance the side, bring a huge circus and overall be a massive detrimental effect to their team.
On the flip-side, I don't think him leaving would cause United any significant hardship.
So, I would definitely be willing that transfer to happen, personally. It won't though, because it's horseshite.
Not to mention the litany of non-athletes in this thread who seem to think players will just not bother competing at the highest level just because they might be at a new club in a year. Shows who’s actually accomplished something in sport and who hasn’t.
The real question is, are we more likely to win with him or with the replacement his sale would permit?
I agree with that 100%. I can understand the posters arguing getting 40-50mm for him now is worth more than keeping him next season but we haven’t won a major trophy in a very long time. We need to get back to our winning ways and I believe Pogba gives us a better chance of doing so. That’s why I would keep him around for one more year rather than sell him for 40-50mm this summer.
If you truly think so, then there is no middle ground we can meet. Let's agree to disagree then.
I wouldn't suggest France lost because of midfield, but it surely wasn't functioning right.
Pogba to me seems like an attacking midfielder forced to play deep, which is unnatural to him and a waste of his talent (at least in United environment).
I really don't subscribe to this theory. What from the past few trophyless years has led you to think we're more likely to succeed with him?
I actually think we're far more likely to win something without him, and to give our existing players more clearly defined roles - and ideally balance the side a bit more by bringing in a solid DM. That's football opinions though
. He has the ability, maybe, to win a cup - if you're lucky and he shows up a few games. I definitely don't think he has the consistency in him to win a league. Would you agree there ?
We'll probably capitulate and offer him ridiculous wages at the last minute. I honestly thought it was a good time to sell him but I guess the suits are worried about losing such a marketable asset.
A 28 year old, 10 year professional, is not going to change his playing style because the fan base doesn't seem to like it. Expecting him to have a eureka moment is not occuring. He doesn't have a natural position because his work rate is terrible on the defensive side of the ball. Can't get caught up on sunk costs, that's bad business. Sell him for what you can.
It's easy to keep him another season. But will he renew...that's the real question. Not sure I'm interested in keeping him if he doesn't. I can't bear a season of speculation and him prancing about keeping himself safe and then lose him for not even a bag of crisps. Just not worth it. Take the money now and replace him.
And if he doesn't play well and PSG loses interest then we're stuck with an overpaid, underperforming player.
The only way the club benefit from this situation is if a) Pogba signs a new contract, quelling the doubts surrounding his dedication to the club and b) he actually starts playing well consistently. Both of those options seem unlikely to happen given what we have seen from Pogba recently, which only makes me question the decision to keep him against his will even more.
What? If PSG loses interest, his contract with United is over at the end of the season. You're acting like this is a Sanchez situation.
When did the ‘prancing’ adjective become a thing for slating Pogba? Never noticed him prancing before
Feck me, this thread is filled with shite.
I was worried to open the "who had a better career, Messi or Ronaldo?" thread, but I'd much sooner go start reading it then seeing how some fans can't see beyond their hatred.
Its utterly saddening. How gullible and entitled some people feel for someone and a situation they have no clue about, but just easily drink down whatever coolaid the media spew for clicks.
I posted yesterday, a picture of the banner PSG fans put up, and how Pogba's mother is a Marsaille fan and wouldn't want Pogba at PSG, something Pogba himself said, and then got that reaction from the fans. If he feels so much hatred here, how in the hell do people think he would want to go when he already isn't fancied there by some fans? Boggles my mind really.
End of the day, he has really disappointed me, when he first came, I really thought he was going to be the catalyst to bring us back to the top, sadly, that didn't work out, for a number of reasons, some definitely on him, but most I would put to the shite transition we had with Jose and the how the club has been run post Fergie.
I will be grateful to him for the fact that he had the dream, desire, to come back and give his best years to try and put us back on the map. If he feels he wants to walk away because things haven't worked out, that's fine with me, if we can get some money by selling him, that would be great, if he leaves on a free next year, that would sting hard sure.
My hope, is that he renews and gives it another go, what Ole is building is going in the right direction and I feel he still has a part to play in it. However, if he doesn't, so be it, but I will not begrudge a player that could have gone anywhere else and probably win titles, who came back to his boyhood club to try and help us back to glory and it didn't work out the way we all wanted.
That's my take, you may not like it or agree with it, but I just wish the clear hatred for the guy would stop.
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I was worried to open the "who had a better career, Messi or Ronaldo?" thread, but I'd much sooner go start reading it then seeing how some fans can't see beyond their hatred.
Its utterly saddening. How gullible and entitled some people feel for someone and a situation they have no clue about, but just easily drink down whatever coolaid the media spew for clicks.
I posted yesterday, a picture of the banner PSG fans put up, and how Pogba's mother is a Marsaille fan and wouldn't want Pogba at PSG, something Pogba himself said, and then got that reaction from the fans. If he feels so much hatred here, how in the hell do people think he would want to go when he already isn't fancied there by some fans? Boggles my mind really.
End of the day, he has really disappointed me, when he first came, I really thought he was going to be the catalyst to bring us back to the top, sadly, that didn't work out, for a number of reasons, some definitely on him, but most I would put to the shite transition we had with Jose and the how the club has been run post Fergie.
I will be grateful to him for the fact that he had the dream, desire, to come back and give his best years to try and put us back on the map. If he feels he wants to walk away because things haven't worked out, that's fine with me, if we can get some money by selling him, that would be great, if he leaves on a free next year, that would sting hard sure.
My hope, is that he renews and gives it another go, what Ole is building is going in the right direction and I feel he still has a part to play in it. However, if he doesn't, so be it, but I will not begrudge a player that could have gone anywhere else and probably win titles, who came back to his boyhood club to try and help us back to glory and it didn't work out the way we all wanted.
That's my take, you may not like it or agree with it, but I just wish the clear hatred for the guy would stop.
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For those who are consistently bringing up PSG. Drinking all the twitter feeds and links from clickbait sources, and readily even accept Liverpool links etc. If you see the above and still think he would go to PSG, not sure how you can come to that conclusion.
Best case, in His situation, if he really wants out, is to leave on a free. And see what options he has end of the season, because no club right now can afford his wages, and in my mind, PSG isn't even an option.
Why dont Madrid and Juve want him?
Juve don't have the money, Real don't have the money and have higher priorities (Mbappe).
Madrid don't have the funds for the fee or the wages. Juve would probably have the fee, but not the funds for the wages. And we have no idea what Allgeris plans are for that team, this being his first season back and all...
Madrid are saving and raising money to fund their Mbappe and Haaland fantasies next summer and Juventus is a bit skint for cash this summer.
They're already having a hard time sealing a deal for Locatelli who apparently should only cost 35m.
Members of their front office have confessed the rumored thoughts of bringing him back the last few years weren't realistic especially after signing Ronaldo
Madrid are putting all their eggs in a basket the shape of Mbappe and Juve can't afford his wages what with Cristiano already on the books
Madrid can't afford Florentin, let alone Paul Pogba.
That last part is exactly what I was just referring to. Everyone clamoring about him going to PSG based on some week links, when as mentioned, Pogba doesn't even fancy PSG, and there is clear evidence for that, whereas there is none to weak evidence that he wants a move to PSG.
Won't stop the rumor mill though, will it.
Never see Bayern linked with him either, doesn't surprise me mind you.
Haven't even seen anything concrete about PSG except for articles mentioning how "professional he'll be in spite of the interest", which is laughable and a real indicator to me that it's coming from Pogba's camp.
They struggling to keep their dressing room happy with Sanes wages. Can't imagine what Pogbas would do to that team.
ffs....sell Pogba make 50m off of him and swing for the fences by putting in an audacious bid for DeJong. Barca have to make some serious moves in order to register Messi with his contract extension. You never know they might actually have to sacrifice a big fish that someone actually wants unlike Griezman or Umtiti or the cripple Dembele
Look, I love Beckham, but what the absolute fecking shit is that thing standing beside Pogba?!
Bizarre, most on here believe that PSG are madly in love with him and will sign him at any cost.
Confident that he'll sign a new deal or confident that he's not going to burn the place down if the club holds him to the contractual agreement he's entered into?
If it were nigh on impossible to find suitable midfielders this summer, I could understand the temptation to retain him for a season, not least if the club (Ole) badly want him to extend and try to persuade him. But as it is he's still a tactical anomaly for us and there are quite a few midfield options we've been linked with that could be more suitable to us for the long-term.
If it were nigh on impossible to find suitable midfielders this summer, I could understand the temptation to retain him for a season, not least if the club (Ole) badly want him to extend and try to persuade him. But as it is he's still a tactical anomaly for us and there are quite a few midfield options we've been linked with that could be more suitable to us for the long-term.
Clear for me that this is going to come up to his contract expiring and him leaving on a free. Not arsed at this point, just hopefully it doesn't mean he will be a lesser player on the pitch for us this season