And anyone who doesn't share the same bloodlust for some of our players gets labeled a fanboy rather than the true fans who despise United players
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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For us.
We invest 89m in a player and let him leave on free 5 years later. Financially wise it will reflect terribly on the club.
If a player wants to leave, sell him.
It's telling that there were links to Liverpool this morning and I was willing him to sign there.
Usually, you'd be worried.
Usually, you'd be worried.
The club would probably think about the financial aspect but somehow I think Ole would rather keep him this year. He knows central midfield is already a big weak link in the squad. Having added 2 brilliant players, its in his interests to keep Pogba and try and add another midfielder.
Ya let’s improve Liverpool
A properly succinct way of putting things.And anyone who doesn't share the same bloodlust for some of our players gets labeled a fanboy rather than the true fans who despise United players
There are a few posters attacking his influence on the dressing room etc and probably most of that is without foundation. Mainly though, as far as I know, it’s not his attitude that people don’t like, it’s his performances. His numbers are okay in the main but, personally, I don’t think the team looks balanced with him in it no matter where we put him. It’s not his fault, he doesn’t do it on purpose, I have nothing against him. I just don’t think it’s worked out for him. The constant rumours about him leaving haven’t helped but mainly he doesn’t have the right type or quality of player around him to bring the best out of him.
I’m not sure why so many people want to classify opinions as agendas but, on balance, I’d probably be happier if he left. I don’t start with that position and then argue that he’s not good enough, I formed an opinion of his contribution over a long period of time and then, based on that, I became inclined towards wanting him to move on. I’m not sure if that makes me over-critical of him but, certainly, I would want him to stay if he started producing consistently.
I believe it could be, yeah. With Pogba I do think we have a decent shot at winning something big this year. I simply don't think there is a better midfielder available, even if we had the money. If it were my decision id risk him going for free, just to try to utilize him for one more season.
There is also the added element of not letting us get strong-armed when a player has one year left on his contract. Down the line that may show other clubs that they are going to have to pay up, even if there only is one year left. Maybe.
Maybe Real Madrid playing nice throughout the Varane transfer was to create some goodwill for when Pogba signs a pre-contract agreement with them in January.
Yes. Its very telling. You are awfully unserious
utter and total nonsense. the delusions of the anti pogba clique literally knows no bounds
I can respect that stance.
well stated
I wonder what vision of the future Ed Woodward and Jose sold Pogba before he returned to United?
It will be interesting to hear what Pogba says when he's somewhere else.
It will be interesting to hear what Pogba says when he's somewhere else.
Ridiculous stance.
Would be delighted to see the back of him if I’m honest.
Not getting even 40 million for him and losing him for free next year will be a disaster that might even impact next year's transfer spend.
And it's not like he'll transform his effort levels and help us win anything major
And it's not like he'll transform his effort levels and help us win anything major
We are more likely to win something this coming season with him than without period
You have no clue why so don't understand why you're so upset.
Not really ridiculous at all. There's no reason to actually depend on a player who's going to leave and will probably not be mentally in it for you.
"Probably" who are you to judge? Did Bayern stop selecting Alaba cause he refused to sign a contract?
A contract is a contract and as long as he mind his right, he should and will be considered for selection.
Selected for the team to be an option or something yes , depend on him as a main player while he's running down his contract and doesn't want to be here anymore and there's a big chance you'll only get shit performance from him.
Also calm down, because you seem to be the only one upset about people posting negatively about Pogba. Maybe try to remove your, I don't know what to call it, Pogba-tinted glasses ? He's not as great as you think he's.
Why would the player not want to win a trophy? And if he isn't mentally in it for United, then his performances would show and he wouldn't be selected. That's completely different from refusal to select him. So yes, it is a ridiculous stance.
Lewandowski had a very strong final season for Dortmund while letting his contract run out.
Yay more uncertainty. Just what we need going into the season!
Are we confident of keeping him, or pessimistic about receiving an acceptable offer? I'd love to know the true opinions of Ole and the execs on the matter.
Not really a ridiculous stance to think about depending on players who are going to be here long term than build the team around a player who's not in it and won't be here the next season.
He'll be an option but I doubt he'll be a permanent main starter next season with his contract situation being like this.
Pogba is inconsistent on a good day.
I can't imagine he'll improve in that department after refusing him a move to PSG - one that he clearly wants above all else.
Oh actually I had a glance earlier, also a shitshow. Quality control needed.
A concerned fan who may pay for tickets, merchandise, or even for TV service which shows football and therefore pays a portion of his wages maybe?
A contract does not mean he has to play unless it's stipulated in the contract. It means he gets paid if he plays or not. It did not stop his mouthpieces talking about playing for other teams when he is under contract.
I agree.
Of course, he may very well be "pulling a Ramos" and is preparing to sign a new deal as we speak.
But the team isn't built around him. Whether you select him or not, the team is as is. And yes it is ridiculous because it's entirely based on the premise that he mentally won't be in it, and would still remain a guaranteed starter if he is on his way out. It makes no sense. Not being in it mentally just means he wouldn't get selected based on performances and because he would be on his way out, there would be no reason to placate him. I don't understand how refusal to play him should be a stance.
The proverbial 'Yes'.
Or it could be Ole-Murtough using reverse-reverse psychology. Daring PSG to put in a bid over the odds in a show of poetically ironic Woodwardian dumbassery.
On the other hand, if he stays and doesn't play well, there's a good chance PSG (or others) don't sign him, or at least not for the wages he wants. He still needs to play well to earn that fat wedge at the end of his contract here.
Indeed.
Again, how does it matter we bought him for 89M (Pogba) or 36M (Herrera). If a player does not want to continue or wants more money, it is not our fault.
Selling is dependent on many factors. Market should be competitive. There should be takers. And the buying club should offer decent money. And when a player has only 1 year contract left, buying club may decide he is not worth that money for just a year.
Exactly this.
I feel like I've explained that a couple of times already, but I'll do it again. The way United play we are top heavy, meaning we have a striker up top, 2 wide forwards, Bruno (who is like a second striker mostly), plus Shaw bombing forward (AWB at times too).
What it means is we need first and foremost a good balance and cover in midfield areas. Like I said with Chelsea example, they have two defensively sound midfielders who can join attack as well, and provide good balance. So far from what I've seen any midfield two which includes Pogba is unbalanced. What might be ok for France but isn't going to work for United (or it's just not worth the effort).
Offensive players weak off the ball play in midfield 3, as they get enough cover AND they are allowed more freedom. Defensive/all round players are more useful in midfield two, hence Fred and McTominay are preferred over Pogba at United. So Pogba in midfield two is a problem just as Scott would be in midfield 3.
I think we will sell him if we get an offer over £50million. Basically two years worth of the contract he wants.
I’d sell him for that, thing is 500k (if that’s what he wants) on a 5 year contact is like £125 million, so deep pockets needed.
I’d sell him for that, thing is 500k (if that’s what he wants) on a 5 year contact is like £125 million, so deep pockets needed.