I cannot see that happening. One, maybe two of those signings could happen but not just based on moving Pogba on but others will need to be sold too which let’s be honest we are hopeless when it comes to selling our own players that are surplus to requirements.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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I cannot see that happening. One, maybe two of those signings could happen but not just based on moving Pogba on but others will need to be sold too which let’s be honest we are hopeless when it comes to selling our own players that are surplus to requirements.
Ole's stance has always been along the lines of Pogba has always been a good lad around the dressing room blah blah...which is fine to keep harmony in the squad.
But if Paul has really rejected £350k a week then his intentions are clear! and I don't see why United should play along. SAF would have binned him off and any player that doesn't want to be at the club shouldn't be allowed to carry on training like everything is hunky-dory.
But if Paul has really rejected £350k a week then his intentions are clear! and I don't see why United should play along. SAF would have binned him off and any player that doesn't want to be at the club shouldn't be allowed to carry on training like everything is hunky-dory.
Why would we sell Pogba this window? I can't see that happening. He is in my opinion worth more to us for this season alone, than the £40/50m we might get for him. And who knows... if things really get going this season, maybe he would even want to sign a new contract.
Because there is nothing suggesting he is doing that at all. Raiola can try, but that would be dumb. That will break his relationship with us, and it will only hurt him long term if he does that. It is best for him that he does not do that if he wants to keep a working relationship. For PSG, this could help convince Mbappe to renew as well. Lastly, a year is a large time t and they could sign someone else in that time or he might get some injury and hurt his chances later.
Also, not like PSG are lacking money anyway. You can ask the same question for Varame, why did he not refuse to be sold to get a fat contract ?
In any case, there has been nothing to suggest that Pogba is refusing to be sold, all rumours are pointing that Pogba is willing to join PSG.
His mother wrote him a glowing reference. That's good enough for me.Proven where and how?
For me keeping him isnt about how he makes our midfield imbalanced or we would only get five good games from him or whatever. I'd love to see Pogba with a proper DM but keeping him right now looks likely to be at the cost of giving him wages he doesnt deserve or cost of losing him for free if he doesnt extend. Neither of those should happen
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Seems like he'll run his contract down if no club wants to pay 40-50m. Often a club eager for the player will not wait once cheap enough but I think Pogba and Raiola will have been surprised over the last 5 years how many clubs have been luke warm over him. A fee plus a big wage are probably not in the offing but one or two clubs might consider his wage demands next year. Obviously covid won't have helped but if you really are fancied and seen as a top player they make it happen.
Pogba should've just let his Juve contract run down a few more years instead of joining us in 2016, that would've allowed a reluctant Perez at Madrid to get him much cheaper for Zidane. Pogba while at United needed to play much better to tempt a big money move to La Liga from the PL, like Bale/Ronaldo/Hazard levels.
Pogba should've just let his Juve contract run down a few more years instead of joining us in 2016, that would've allowed a reluctant Perez at Madrid to get him much cheaper for Zidane. Pogba while at United needed to play much better to tempt a big money move to La Liga from the PL, like Bale/Ronaldo/Hazard levels.
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I think it is still better to have a proper DM with Fred or Vdb rather than fred with a new CM. With Ndidi/Rice, Dm position will be fixed for years.If Pogba leaves we will have Matic, Fred and McT. That's so average it hurts. We will need one proper midfielder. If we get in someone like Ndidi/Rice, the lack of ball players in our midfield would be alarming.
--McT/Fred--Rice/Matic
Surprised PSG haven’t made an approach yet. Maybe they’ve spotted a number of red flags and are worried Pogba is pulling a Ramos.
It's not a good idea in the long run though, is it?
He can train with the reserve team, he just should not be in a matchday squad (I'd have said he should be on the bench for every game but should come on only as a 90th min sub when needed to waste time, but that's too harsh).
The reason I say this is because it will discourage players to run down their contracts, will discourage teams to pick players in their peak age from us. They should know that if they want a player to run down their contract and join them, he will be coming with no top flight appearance for an entire season.
We cannot have players run down contracts and leave on a free in the peak of their careers, or hold us ransom for outrageous wages.
A player who is not motivated to play for the club is never a positive influence on anyone.
No, he just gets the fat one and his family to do it for him.Nonsense upon nonsense in this thread. People need to grow a pair and act like grown ups.
He's never said anything out of turn, he's never downed tools, he's never been anything but a positive influence on the pitch and in the dressing room. This is backed up by many players and managers.
Raiola is Raiola, he does this sh*t with every player. In fact it's been pretty tame with Pogba. He flew Haaland around all the clubs in Europe and by all accounts he's going nowhere this season. Imagine he was doing that with Pogba when he had 3 years left on his contract.
Offer him £250,000 per week, take it or leave it. He's not worth more because he's far too inconsistent. If he doesn't accept, he doesn't play first XI.
We are paying at least £34 for with add ons going to £40 mil plus for Varane so it will be at least the same not £30 mil. But as an attacking midfielder I suspect it would be higher (50-60 inc add ons)
I also think our hand is fairly strong as well as we are prepared to hold on to lose him for free.
I suspect pogba would prefer to go to real madrid so PSG will know that if they don't pay up now they will miss out so therefore offer fair price.
Alternatively, the Pogba FC posters are so blind with love they can't see just how little Pogba actually contributes, certainly not consistently enough.
Will miss the fecker for sure. I know there aren't lof of fans and he hasn't been consistent enough. But our team wasn't also consistent during this period. We went through some very bad phases during his peak years. I will miss him for sure and also think, we will struggle to create without an actual ball carrier.
No Bruno isn't the answer.
No Bruno isn't the answer.
Anyone that's ever asked for a pay rise will know that the weakest argument possible you can take into your managers office is "He got paid x, so I want x". Pogba can ask for whatever he wants but he has to explain why he feels he's worth becoming the highest paid player at the club in regards to what he brings to the team on and off the field. Unfortunately for him he doesn't have a strong case based on his merits.
We don't need a world class player to replace Pogba, Pogba isn't even world class so that would be an upgrade for one. We just need consistency and a solid performer who wants to be here and win things.
For some reason there's a selection of people on here who think Pogba is the soul of the club, we're not even going to miss him if he's replaced effectively. It baffles me that some care more about what happens to him than the club. We've lost Ronaldo, Ruud, Beckham, Stam amongst others and been absolutely fine. I'm not going to lose any sleep over Paul Pogba...
Nobody thinks he’s the soul of the club and nobody puts him ahead of the club.
In fact the opposite, some of us are aware he is in fact world class (as any of his peers within the professional game will tell you) and how will be losing a very talented midfielder and won’t replace him with somebody as talented. Which will affect the clubs performances.
We’ve nobody to progress the ball from deep, nobody with match winning ability from midfield (I’m excluding Bruno in that.)
If we sign a defensively sound but lesser player than Pogba then we will have everything going through Bruno again like when Pogba was injured.
Bruno needs him to stay to get a feckin break. Nobody else in that midfield will create so much as a fart in an attacking sense. Some here though are fine with that, some of us aren’t.
I must've imagined all those casual penalties he gave away, dangerous disposessions after attempted show pony moves, half arsed misplaced passes, half arsed tracking back, half arsed attempted tackles, and generally floating through games on auto-pilot.
He's not the devil, but come on..
I don’t want another inconsistent overhyped player given a mad contract that we can’t move on later when his legs go
We'd be considerably worse off without him. Almost impossible to close the gap on City if he goes this summer - top 4 at best.
If its true hes in no rush to make a decision and willing to wait til the end of the window, United should make the choice for him..
If your signing.. do it by XX date.. If not your being moved on come then. simple as... no more messing the club around
If your signing.. do it by XX date.. If not your being moved on come then. simple as... no more messing the club around
Well he has confirmed that a bid is coming for Pogba.Jesus, talk about covering all bases, he's nailed every one of them
So to sum up PSG are about to make a bid even though they don’t know if Pogba actually wants to join, if we want to sell or if they can afford it.
Love it that they think he's just using them to get a better deal from us, where have we heard that red flag before?
you're absolutely mad if you think that is the case....
PSG seem interested, Pogba doesn't seem interested in renewing so if we can bridge this negotiations to sell him then we have to do it.
question remains about his willingness to play in paris for psg based on previous comments.
seems to me like he's more willing to wait until january to start discussions with madrid about a free transfer so he and mino can get some sort of sign on bonus plus big wages OR see if juve is an option and go back there if CR7 leaves.
Would we? Considering our win rate under Ole with Pogba playing is 51% and is 60.3% without him, I don't get why anyone wants him to stay? Paticularly with all the drama he brings.
I don't mind special players who have the quirky personality traits, but he's not doing the business and should be off to the highest bidder.
.....How can a player even entertain of the idea moving from the best league in the world to...french league?
Like Neymar, he will be forgotten.
Like Neymar, he will be forgotten.
He's treated like dogshit by the press, so it wouldn't be that unreasonable.
If Neymar was forgotten you would not have mentioned him and he would not be still regarded as one of the best footballers in the world
Not if we bought a decent replacement. The stats show full well we don't drop off a cliff when he's not in the team. He's not irreplaceable or that important in the grand scheme of things. It won't be like losing Scholes, Keane or Ronaldo.
He's a good player but not so special that he can't be replaced. I'd say it'd be easier to replace him than Cavani, Shancho, Bruno, Maguire or even Shaw right now.
He's treated like dogshit because he's on a lot of money and is playing like dogshit.
Name me another player on his kind of wages who has such a negative impact on the teams win rate when he plays? He's a complete and utter liability. I don't see what people are seeing in him.
So you basically have no idea what Pogba is thinking yet you seem to “clearly” know he wants to go to Paris? Which one is it?
No no no, you are doing it all wrong, if pogba goes we will crumble to arsenal/spurs level if we are lucky, so we should offer to give him a better contract than Messi, rename old trafford to pogcentral and give him veto on all kit designs, transfers and commercial deals whilst ensuring SAF and Sir bobby blow his agent in the centre circle before each home game.
In all seriousness, *Ivan drago voice* If he goes, he goes. Weve lost better and been fine and will do again. If he stays for a modest pay increase, fine and dandy. If he goes this summer for a halfway decent fee, fine. If he goes for feck all again next summer I hope every time we draw his new club in the CL he gets booed from whistle to whistle.
Because slower league suits him better maybe? And it is not about French league. It is PSG. They have the money.
I’d hate for this to drag on to next season - being allowed to leave on a free (again), the constant speculation about about his next club and the inevitable questions about where his head is at after a poor performance, it won’t take much for the fans to turn on him.
At the same time another undeserved bumper pay rise leaves a sour taste, it’s hard to see any remotely satisfying solution to this other than recoup what we can for him now and move on.
At the same time another undeserved bumper pay rise leaves a sour taste, it’s hard to see any remotely satisfying solution to this other than recoup what we can for him now and move on.
Pogba will want it to happen now, I can't see him waiting a year. At 28 he'll want a good 5 year 300k plus deal which he can get. At 29 next year, I don't think he gets 5 years and 300k.