Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

AFC NimbleThumb said:
Him holding the club hostage isn’t what your point was though was it.


I agree we shouldn’t be being held hostage in this situation, I’d say that for any player but you were somehow finding a way to disregard his standout performances the last time we did win something.

I’d love to be dominating Europe at the top level but of late we’ve been to 2 Europa League Finals & a Semi; it’s been our level so to criticise him for the one time we won it when a multitude of players you champion on here sh*t the bed of late is bizarre.

That said, his time has come to leave.
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I am not saying he is the worst player but there is a massive overreaction by some fans on what he has done.

Yes, his first season he was brilliant at times. I have seen brilliant performances from Pogba like the City game where he turned up or even this season there were a few games where he turned the game. We all know what Pogba can do, my issue is and will always be with Pogba is consistency.

Lingard has had as many good spells, his goal in the league cup final, goals at Emirates and the like too, so there are many players who have standout performances but that doesn't mean he can live of that.

At the moment, in my mind I have 3 reasons why we should cut our losses on Pogba.

1. He wants over 400k, last few times we done that its ended badly with Sanchez and DDG
2. Last year of his contract so losing him on a free is bas business
3. Balance of the team, we have seen if many times this season, its very very difficult to balance a team with him in the double pivot without an elite ball winner.
 
kthanksbye said:
You think he'd be arsed to make any efforts for us? you think a player who will be out of contract at the end of the season will not be thinking of picking up an injury going into a 50 50 ball? As it is Pogba has difficulties keeping himself motivated every week, add to that he'd be using the games just to keep himself match fit for the next club.
We've done this before with DeGea, I don't see how it is an outrageous thing to do with Pogba.
We'll not miss him.
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No, I agree, I want him out and he’s done nothing to warrant being one of our highest ever paid players, as my previous posts have said. But it remains ludicrous that we would have a policy at the club where we banish players to solitary training, simply because they’re in the last year of their contracts.
You either sell the player a year earlier, or you get the best out of them for the remaining twelve months. The fans are understandably disappointed in him, but by all accounts he’s a positive influence around the players and in the dressing room?
 
Get him sold asap if he wants to leave. It's becoming boring every single season this happens.
 
mazhar13 said:
Possible reasons:
  • Pogba was born and raised in Paris and sees Paris as his home.
  • PSG is the strongest team in France and very, very good in Europe, too.
  • He has a close friend or two in PSG with Kimpembe being one notable friend.
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  • only PSG can afford his 350,000 salary
 
Mickeza said:
60m quid for James, Lingard and Pogba? Wow. Okay, let’s go 60m then - who are we signing at 60m to replace those three that makes us more likely to win the league next year? That’s what it’s about. You don’t sign a 28 year old Varane to partner a 28 year old Maguire if you aren’t building a side to win now. There’s sod all point bringing in an 18 year old to replace Pogba who will peak when those two have retired. For the first time in 8 years I’m looking at a squad that’s one signing away from being genuine challengers - keeping Pogba makes that squad stronger - so let’s keep him a year and take the risk he doesn’t extend. It’s amusing this entire forum moans about how the glazers don’t care about winning - top 4 is all that matters - yet they’re delighted to sell a player who is undoubtedly a difference maker despite what his critics say just to bring in some money and stop us losing a player on a free. Real ambition would be to say feck it - keep that 40m (or the 30m you’ve valued him at) and go all in on winning the league.

Anyway - it looks like PSG are about to bid - he’s refused a contract and wants to move as a priority to PSG.

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I have no idea who can we sign, I don't follow the football around the world that closely. But I'll give you my view - what we need is a midfielder (all round, defensively-oriented, not necessarily DM as I don't see us switching to 4-3-3), who can hold the midfield and pass the ball. I'd sell Pogba in a heartbeat if we can get one. I don't rate Pogba-the-midfielder that much, I rate him as a midfielder-winger hybrid, especially for his offensive contribution up front, but we already have a quite a few players who can play left wing, so PP seems redundant at this point. Pogba impact from midfield is hugely overrated and can easily be replaced. Not to mention him being often injured, out of mood etc.

To be honest, if we can't find a suitable midfielder now, I'd rather sell Pogba and loan a player for one year than have a half-arsed Pogba for another year and lose him on a free next year. 40m is A LOT of money which can be used this/next window.
 
Passitlikescholes said:
Hes far too young and inexperienced to play CM for us this season, I'd see Ole only using him on the flanks or sub for Bruno. But then the question becomes how many games is he actually going to get in those positions, given how stacked we are in those positions and that Ole doesn't really rotate.

I'd be more inclined to send him on loan so he gets first team experience and games under his belt. That's why I think he's maybe 2 seasons away from being a regular contributor to our squad.
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If he is good enough, he is old enough. I just said I hope he gets game time this season and you just agreed with this if you read what you have written.
 
This is the exact same news that came out 2 weeks ago. Still no news of Pogba actually agreeing terms with PSG. I see this as a bargaining technique, see what PSG has to offer and use it in negotiations with us. If we aren't willing to match the contract, make the decision, take less money and stay or go for more money.

If he was actually 100% interested in PSG then he would've agreed terms by now and the clubs would be negotiating. His pal Mbappe is also on his way out to Madrid, either going this summer or next summer for free. I think Pogba doesn't want to spend the rest of his career in the French league, his ideal transfer was to Madrid but with Zidane gone and Madrid putting all their eggs in the Mbappe basket, he knows he doesn't have many options and I see him trying to milk as much out of us and signing a new deal.

Problem for us is leaving it this late gives all the power to Pogba, he could even stay for one more season, run down his contract and if he's not convinced by us and our signings he's off with a fat signing on bonus. He'd probably have other clubs in for him as well (Juve, Madrid, Barca?) Can't really blame the club for this one though, as the impact of covid on clubs finances removed all interest in Pogba so it's not like they could have done anything differently to be fair.

In conclusion, In my personal opinion I think he's more likely to be leaving on a free to Madrid or Juve or signing a new contract with us.
 
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the_cliff said:
This is the exact same news that came out 2 weeks ago. Still no news of Pogba actually agreeing terms with PSG. I see this as a bargaining technique, see what PSG has to offer and use it in negotiations with us. If we aren't willing to match the contract, make the decision, take less money and stay or go for more money.

If he was actually 100% interested in PSG then he would've agreed terms by now and the clubs would be negotiating. His pal Mbappe is also on his way out to Madrid, either going this summer or next summer for free. I think Pogba doesn't want to spend the rest of his career in the French league, his ideal transfer was to Madrid but with Zidane gone and Madrid putting all their eggs in the Mbappe basket, he knows he doesn't have many options and I see him trying to milk as much out of us and signing a new deal.

Problem for us is leaving it this late gives all the power to Pogba, he could even stay for one more season, run down his contract and if he's not convinced by us and our signings he's off with a fat signing on bonus. He'd probably have other clubs in for him as well (Juve, Madrid, Barca?) Can't really blame the club for this one though, as the impact of covid on clubs finances removed all interest in Pogba so it's not like they could have done anything differently to be fair.

In conclusion, In my personal opinion I think he's more likely to be leaving on a free to Madrid or Juve or signing a new contract with us.
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Madrid and Juve both won't pay the wages he wants. His options are PSG or City if he wants £350k+
 
The amount of people calling him mercenary in here is funny. So many fans forget that being a footballer is also a job.

Pogba is 28 turning 29 in March. This is the last time he is going to get a big contract due to his age. Why the hell would he not negotiate hard to get the maximum he can get for himself and his family? because he loves United?
 
RedStarUnited said:
The amount of people calling him mercenary in here is funny. So many fans forget that being a footballer is also a job.

Pogba is 28 turning 29 in March. This is the last time he is going to get a big contract due to his age. Why the hell would he not negotiate hard to get the maximum he can get for himself and his family? because he loves United?
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I agree, footballers have the right to attain the highest salary they can. But when they've not done a lot for 2 years and consistently spoken about leaving to join Madrid during that time it's hard to justify a pay rise for him, especially where there are others more deserving
 
RedStarUnited said:
The amount of people calling him mercenary in here is funny. So many fans forget that being a footballer is also a job.

Pogba is 28 turning 29 in March. This is the last time he is going to get a big contract due to his age. Why the hell would he not negotiate hard to get the maximum he can get for himself and his family? because he loves United?
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He’s absolutely entitled to leave. My issue is people thinking something is miraculously going to change after 5 years of “sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit”.
 
the_cliff said:
Not having to pay a transfer fee might change their mind. Juve got Ramsey on 300 k a week iirc !!
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And they're doing their best to get rid of him (and Ronaldo) but can't due to salaries. After seeing the mess Barcelona and Madrid currently find themselves in, and no upcoming Super League, a lot of clubs are going to start cutting their cloth.
 
crossy1686 said:
I agree, footballers have the right to attain the highest salary they can. But when they've not done a lot for 2 years and consistently spoken about leaving to join Madrid during that time it's hard to justify a pay rise for him, especially where there are others more deserving
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I get that but he can look around and see Mata getting a renewal when he doesn't ever play. Phil Jones the same. De Gea being the best paid player in the club and yet no the number 1 for his position. And then he can probably argue the commercial aspect of having him too.
 
Either offer him 400k-450k and his stays or let him leave on a free and he gets 500k a week which he will pick up easy.

I think we all know what will happen here folks :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pogba is staying. Well done United can’t wait to see him playing alongside Varane and Sancho. Exciting times.
 
RedStarUnited said:
The amount of people calling him mercenary in here is funny. So many fans forget that being a footballer is also a job.

Pogba is 28 turning 29 in March. This is the last time he is going to get a big contract due to his age. Why the hell would he not negotiate hard to get the maximum he can get for himself and his family? because he loves United?
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Of course he should try and get as much as he can. I don’t blame him for that. It’s just I don’t think he deserves to be our highest earner.

There is a difference between being capable of brilliance and being brilliant. Pogba is capable of some wonderful moments of football but those moments have come at a cost. £90m was a lot of money in the first place, his subsequent patchy form, eyelash fluttering with other clubs and his agents open disrespectful comments have not helped endear either player or agent to the fan base.

If he wants to stay, fair enough, he’s a good player, but no way should he be made club’s highest earner. No way. I remember Rooney making noises about our ambition and a possible move away and we rewarded him with a huge contract. That was so different, Rooney had earned his demands by giving us 100% on the pitch over the previous years.

Caving in to Pogbas wage demands would be an affront to those around him who work hard and are committed to the cause.
 
I wonder how club stands over this. Are we desperate to keep him (and we will risk to lose him for free by waiting on him to sign new contract) or we are trying to sell him?
Worst case scenario for us and for the manager, who prepares squad for flying start in PL, is this now.
I don't blame him for stalling and waiting but we need to protect our interest too. So it is time for "sign or go" offer.

I want him to stay but i hope that we will solve this in next 2 weeks. On one way or another.
 
If he leaves it will be frustrating that it didn’t work out.

If he stays it will frustrating that a player who hasn’t worked out has been given a pay rise.

I know which frustration I’d rather deal with.
 
Never be as happy to see a player gone. At least until Martial is sold.

Horrible character.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I want him to stay but i hope that we will solve this in next 2 weeks. On one way or another.
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I don't see why Pogba will have any urgency to resolve this issue whatsoever.
OK perhaps he has a good offer from PSG and also a new contract from United to weigh up, but why rush?

If Pogba sits tight, he is free to speak with other clubs in January and can sign a precontract agreement.
Meaning he isn't restricted to who he can sign for, and will pocket a massive signing on fee.

So personally, I'd be very surprised if Pogba leaves this window, it will be next year on a free.
 
He will get the £400k whether he leaves or not.

It’s his last big contract and he is considered WC by his peers and just about everyone apart from a section of online Utd fans, Jose fan boys and a large section of the British media.

He will get a signing on fee if he leaves this window and wages will be around the £350k that we are currently offering. Added together it will be the equivalent of 400k+. (Still gets what he is asking for)

He leaves next summer and will get closer to 500k (because he will still be considered WC..because he is) and Utd get nothing.

We need to just pay him as he is clearly part of Ole’s plans.
 
Based on what he has done in the kit he doesnt deserve 400k+ a week. He has been inconsistent for 5 years now. On the other side United hasn`t played him to his strength yet. Pogba is best with minimal defensive responsibiilty, but with Bruno here im not sure it will work (even with a class DM).

The best thing to do is probably letting him go and buy two midtfielders who fit United better. Neves and Camavinga perhaps ?
 
Ace of Spades said:
Get this done quick, if he is not signing, then get rid.
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How would the club just 'get rid' if Pogba refuses to be sold?
In 5 months he will get a massive signing on fee from whoever wants him, so why would he be forced into a transfer now?
 
VinzentFTW said:
Based on what he has done in the kit he doesnt deserve 400k+ a week. He has been inconsistent for 5 years now. On the other side United hasn`t played him to his strength yet. Pogba is best with minimal defensive responsibiilty, but with Bruno here im not sure it will work (even with a class DM).

The best thing to do is probably letting him go and buy two midtfielders who fit United better. Neves and Camavinga perhaps ?
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We can’t just let him go as he isn’t going to just leave with 1 year left on his contract.

People need to wake up to reality. He’s not going to sell himself short. The only way we win as a club is if we offer him a contract with his value. Otherwise we have to hope some club out there is willing to offer us £100m. Any takers? Oh by the way he has 12 months left.
 
'People expect him to be Kante, Pirlo and Ronaldinho and all rolled into one. It's unfair"

You're too damn right we are, we are paying him the salary of all three of them rolled into one! He better be damn good in goal too, for more than 400k a week.
 
spiriticon said:
'People expect him to be Kante, Pirlo and Ronaldinho and all rolled into one. It's unfair"

You're too damn right we are, we are paying him the salary of all three of them rolled into one! He better be damn good in goal too, for more than 400k a week.
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Well I expect DDG to scoring a f’ing penalty too to help win us the Europa league. The keeper he took it against probably got paid a 3rd of what he earns.
 
Mainoldo said:
We can’t just let him go as he isn’t going to just leave with 1 year left on his contract.

People need to wake up to reality. He’s not going to sell himself short. The only way we win as a club is if we offer him a contract with his value. Otherwise we have to hope some club out there is willing to offer us £100m. Any takers? Oh by the way he has 12 months left.
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We wont win. 40-50 mill is the best we can hope for. Giving him 400-500k a week is stupid, and the only winner there is Pogba. It will feck up our wage structure again, and who will be next who demands those numbers ? Bruno, Rashford ? Both deservere it more than Pogba.
 
Raiola's relationship is excellent with PSG, they paid him €20m+ for bringing them Donnnaruma on a free.

Holy f*ck :lol:
 
Mainoldo said:
Well I expect DDG to scoring a f’ing penalty too to help win us the Europa league. The keeper he took it against probably got paid a 3rd of what he earns.
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For 375k a week DDG should be scoring fecking hattricks upfront. But that's another story. We all know it was a mistake to hand him that contract.
 
This is basically the same as the Varane deal, but we’re on the receiving end. PSG’s offer will be about £30m I expect.
 
Mainoldo said:
People need to wake up to reality. He’s not going to sell himself short. The only way we win as a club is if we offer him a contract with his value.
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This is the only card that United have to play in this situation.
 
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