That's the spirit.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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That's the spirit.
He is a very good player - if he is in the mood, he can virtually win matches by himself. But my biggest issue with him is his consistency. To win the league, we need players that will consistently play well. He has too many ups and downs (and also injuries in the last 2 seasons). We need to try and get some money now.
It's a weird thing to fantasize about. Plenty of teams play 4-2-3-1 the way we play and are successful at it. Flick did it at Bayern, Tuchel at PSG, Klopp at Dortmund (temporarily for Pool), Wenger for Arsenal etc.
He would have been a world class #10 in the nineties.
In the 2020's, he doesn't really have a position.
I read he's enjoying our summer transfer so far, that a change of heart to sign could be on the cards. read that on a not so reliable source Daily Express.
Nonsense. Pure, 100% nonsense.
I genuinely don’t think some of you watched our matches last season whenever he was fit. Was without doubt one of our better players whilst being partnered with McFred or an Ancient Matic.
Pure revisionism driven through nothing but a dislike for the player.
Yep. Its this idea that 4-2-3-1 is a defensive formation with 2 "holding midfielders" while 4-3-3 is a free flowing attacking formation. When in reality, it really depends on the personnel and tactics. A 4-2-3-1 can have creative players in the pivot, and a 4-3-3 midfield can be workman-like. Regardless, often teams play one of these on the ball and other off it. Think 4-2-3-1 suffered a reputation knock here because Clowngate used it in the euros.
Dropping our best player isn’t happening ffs
The problem is that Pogba himself wants to leave as he's not accepting any of our offers to stay here.
So it's pretty obvious that we have to sell him now and replace him with a good midfielder.
Now if the new midfielder is as good as Pogba well that's very difficult.
Yeah I didn’t say we shouldn’t sell him if indeed he wants to go or is willing to run down the contract and leave for free.
Whats annoying is the pure revisionism over his performance level here, if he’s been woeful then feck me how bad have our other midfielders been? But you don’t hear them being hounded out of the club.
I genuinely do think if he stays, we will need him on the left wing for the time Rashford is out with his operation
Oh i agree with you.
I'd love him to stay here.
Sancho will start his United career there. I think people would be surprised how much of a difference a quality cb can make, it changes the dynamics of the midfield. I can't wait to see Frogba again.
key takeaways:
- talks expected soon, both PSG and Pogba are interested
- no official bid yet, but things could accelerate
- PSG monitoring the situation for months
- Herrera and Rafinha could leave if they sign Pogba
Big deal over Pogba. Hope this doesn't drag on now till end of August. Just get rid and get someone in. Can't afford another crap start to premier league so be nice to get in a replacement quickly so we can focus on the future without him.
If Pogba leaves the necessity is not a fancy sure but a player who is able to be effective in the role the manager requires. Given that Fred / Mctomminay are awful in distributing the ball I think a DLP is more useful. Neves has been totally disregarded but the whole point of a midfield is to have balance he does offer this. Pogba out and both a CDM + CM to come in place.
He should be begging for a new contract tbh not going to an irrelevant club.
Also according to this article, Pogba was apparently upset about how last season didn't meet his expectations. Maybe he wanted us to do way better in Europe because our league campaign wasn't as bad as many of us expected in the end.
Sell him quick and get Rice. No point in delaying. The season starts in 2 weeks time. Need to get midfield sorted before this.
maybe his prick of an agent shouldn't of distablised the club with his comments on the eve of the Leipzig game then
it's pretty funny because "didn't meet expectations" is pretty much how I'd sum up his United career 
just get it done.
just get it done.
The only club Pogba can flirt with is PSG to get himself a fat new contract. I still don’t see it - the article says Pogba is tempted by PSG - not that he wants to go - it’s still all so wishy washy even after 3 weeks of speculation.
If they are willing to give him and Raiola the money they want, then good luck and good riddance. Selling him this summer makes a lot of sense if we can find a willing buyer and PSG looks like the only game in town.
Cool, bye. Great player, but if he wants to leave, so be it. Also not a left winger so we shouldn't try to shoehorn him into the team this season.
I know they’re just reports, so can’t be 100% on truth. But he can get fecked about expectations when he can’t show consistency for more than 6 games.
Does he expect us to carry him to trophies, when he’s the most talented player in the side and not performing for the vast majority of his time here?
Need more stand up and be counted players who just get on with things and not those who create some media circus via their greedy agent.
Does he expect us to carry him to trophies, when he’s the most talented player in the side and not performing for the vast majority of his time here?
Need more stand up and be counted players who just get on with things and not those who create some media circus via their greedy agent.
I wonder if he’s thinking differently now that we have Sancho and Varane. If we get a CDM that can sit deep and clean everything up, do the work of two like Makalele used to, it can unlock Pogba to shine.
if I was him I might think about Chelsea, Kante or Jorginho can do that job.
if I was him I might think about Chelsea, Kante or Jorginho can do that job.
He doesn't care about any of that.
He and Raiola want a fortune in wages and a massive signing on bonus - this is Pogba's last big contract and Raiola's last chance to make some money on the player. We're not going to give it to them, but PSG hopefully will.
If he's staying, I hope Varane will sort his defending game in few shouts on the pitch... Feels like the longer it gets, the more uncertainty at final shape of the 1st squad and formation, while there's just few pre-season games left.
I've said this before but at this stage he's really similar to Cantona.
Now imagine playing Cantona in any of the midfield positions.
It sounds like we have to sell him for the same reason Madrid sold Varane. He would leave on a free if not. But if it's true we only have a £100 mlliion budget this window, then we have to sell now anyway in order to buy. We need Pogba but he's only useful if he has a good DM behind him. And it's either/or. Otherwise it's McFred.
There is another player in play that would push the deal over the line. It's us that need to consider to sell as Pogba is in the last year of his contract. Few months before he can sign pre contract with overseas clubs to leave for free next summer.
Just similar situation to Real Madrid being forced to sell after Varane refused to renew. Varane didn't hand in transfer request, nor refusing to return to training to force the move. It's still enough pressure for Real Madrid take a reasonable offer now.
If they don’t, resigning may make more sense for Pogba then Raiola. It looks like only PSG will break the bank for Pogba, which doesn’t help his or our bargaining position.
I think we would have sold Pogba last season if not for the pandemic.
He's a nice bonus player of high quality to have. Pre-Bruno we looked creatively lost without him on the pitch, but that's not the case any more, with greater creative options up front with and without Bruno. And with our lacking DM options he never looks quite the player he could be.
If we sign a DM we could unlock more of his ability, giving us a top class midfield. But signing a DM would also get a lot more out of all of our other midfielders too, I think Fred (free to be the ball presser he is at best) and McTominay(free to make runs to the box more) would both benefit heavily from having proper cover behind them. VdB would probably benefit from a more solid platform too.
But we would have a lot of midfielders, and if letting him go now instead of on a free later makes it easier financially to get a DM, or allow us to budget for a higher tier DM, then I'd let him go in a heartbeat, since the fee even if small paired with his huge wages would leave room for a very substantial signing.
If we sign a DM we could unlock more of his ability, giving us a top class midfield. But signing a DM would also get a lot more out of all of our other midfielders too, I think Fred (free to be the ball presser he is at best) and McTominay(free to make runs to the box more) would both benefit heavily from having proper cover behind them. VdB would probably benefit from a more solid platform too.
But we would have a lot of midfielders, and if letting him go now instead of on a free later makes it easier financially to get a DM, or allow us to budget for a higher tier DM, then I'd let him go in a heartbeat, since the fee even if small paired with his huge wages would leave room for a very substantial signing.
Varane told Madrid he wasn’t renewing. Every reliable United source is saying we’re still in negotiations with Pogba - even that RMC report who have been pushing him going to PSG for 3 weeks doesn’t even confirm that he’s said he wants to join them. It’s all noise at the moment. People forget last summer Raiola came out and said Pogba wanted to stay as he was a big part of our project and all the noise was he was signing a new contract. Then after catching COVID and being dropped it was all about how he wanted to leave again and Ole is a cnut. Ultimately I don’t trust any of it - maybe he is off to PSG but I don’t see him playing in France at his peak years. 2 year extension then he can feck off to Spain when they sort out their finances and we still get a fee - seems an obvious win-win for everyone to me.
If we can get a proper CDM by selling him, I’m all for it. The player may not be as good as Pogba, but if we can get someone who works our system better, then we progress.
Pogba rejected our offer to renew. Thread title changed to reflect on that info.
Pogba already experienced success with Juve, so it's not that weird for him to settle down with PSG on a wealthy wage. Seeing that with the pandemic, PSG's financial doping is one of the favorite for CL. Real Madrid, Juventus just can't afford him now. Staying with us doesn't guarantee success. We need to sort of his contract now (extend or sell). All the ingredients are available to cook up the transfer just like Varane.
Show me a single reliable source that says he rejected a new deal? The mirror reported it and sky jumped all over it. Romano says we’re still negotiating as does Ole - that’s enough for me.
In one hand I’d love this to be his thinking because let’s be honest the French league is crap and he’s only going because he’s pretty much guaranteed a league title every season and in the PL it’s a challenge.
On the other I’m sick of hearing if he’s staying or going, it’s that fat agent pulling the strings looking for one last big pay day off him and for that I’d love for him to leave.
All about the ££££ unfortunately, so Pogba…decide, what do you want, a challenge or money?? That would be the question I would ask him