Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

432JuanMata said:
Not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying he won’t down tools just because he didn’t move. He was comfortably our best player near Xmas when we went top and was playing more simple yet more affective with Bruno in the team.

Im not saying that he only plays bad because we are bad he will always have bad games, I’m saying if we are anywhere near the top he can make the difference
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As a 28 year old earning 350k a week in the prime of his athletic career, he should be the one setting the standard and performance level in our midfield week in and week out. Anything else is a let down and he should be moved on to another club where he can flatter to deceive.

He’s mercurial, always been that and he struggles to do the simple things consistently well. It’s hard to win a league while carrying that sort of wild card.
 
Mickeza said:
Bayern didn’t sell Alaba. Liverpool didn’t sell wijnaldum. Why do you have to sell for 40m? Because it’s embarrassing? We’re more likely to win the league with him than without him next year and if I’m Ole that’s all I care about. I’d rather sell James and Lingard to keep Pogba for a year than sell Pogba and keep James and Lingard for 5 years.
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I agree. But I'd rather sell Pogba, Lingard and James to get a DM than keep Pogba for another season and don't get any money for him next summer.

I think it's very likely we need to sell big if we want to buy another player this window.
 
Sell him and who do you replace him with? Goretzka? Unlikely. Saul? Not the same talent level. Locatelli? Off to Juve. Give him a one-year extension and assess after the season.
 
Mickeza said:
Eh? I’m arguing against the notion that if we kept him another year he wouldn’t put any effort in. I’m on your side! In fact I’m going further - we should offer him a 2 year extension with a pay increase. We protect his value, he gets paid more and spends another 2 years here in his prime with Varane et al and then he can get his big final pay day move to Spain when they’ve recovered financially at 30 with still plenty to give. Everybody wins.
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He's not earned it.
 
Mickeza said:
What DM do we need 90m quid for?
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It's difficult to do the math as we don't know really how much we can get for those 3. I'd say closer to 60-65m quid but it's just a guess, like yours.
Anyway, if the reports are true, we need to sell after Sancho and Varane transfers. So the small fishes will not cover for another big transfer, whether that is 50 or 90m quid it doesn't matter.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
As a 28 year old earning 350k a week in the prime of his athletic career, he should be the one setting the standard and performance level in our midfield week in and week out. Anything else is a let down and he should be moved on to another club where he can flatter to deceive.

He’s mercurial, always been that and he struggles to do the simple things consistently well. It’s hard to win a league while carrying that sort of wild card.
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I’m not necessarily disagreeing, Pogba to me was always the last piece of the puzzle not the first. He would make a already great team better not make a decent team good. I’m not saying give him more money or a new contract but if the rumours of 40m are to be believed I wouldn’t sell for that as he could make the difference in a title challenge.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not hating but take out Pogba we have Scott, Fred, Matic and VDB. Yes they will give more effort but my god that is never good enough to challenge
 
I'm sorry, but why are some people here saying "just sign him to a one-year or two-year extension"? That's just not going to happen, they'll look for a massive contract.
 
Mickeza said:
Does he? Source? Goretzka wants to leave too then right? What with good sources saying he’s talking to us? Or is it only players linked with United who are using clubs for a pay day?
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It's been reported he's declined or isn't going to accept the terms United have given him for an extension. The club has to make a decision. Of course I'd want him to stay and play out the season, but I'm more interested in bringing in whoever this season and possibly next season because next season will require a center forward...that's going to be huge money involved.

Pogba isn't going to accept at 2 year bridge deal. He's going to get the maximum wage and transfer fee as this is his last massive deal on wages and potential fee entering his mid 30s. Pogba will probably take a 4 year deal above 410K Euros per week.

It's all about money right now for Pogba and suiters. Seems like he's lost some leverage with Zidane not managing Real if you're to believe that Perez doesn't really want him because Mbappe is the priority.
 
Mickeza said:
Eh? I’m arguing against the notion that if we kept him another year he wouldn’t put any effort in. I’m on your side! In fact I’m going further - we should offer him a 2 year extension with a pay increase. We protect his value, he gets paid more and spends another 2 years here in his prime with Varane et al and then he can get his big final pay day move to Spain when they’ve recovered financially at 30 with still plenty to give. Everybody wins.
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VanHaal'sRedArmy said:
Sell him and who do you replace him with? Goretzka? Unlikely. Saul? Not the same talent level. Locatelli? Off to Juve. Give him a one-year extension and assess after the season.
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You think we've not done it by now? I'd bet we have offered him an extension a year ago already.

Offering a pay rise and meeting Pogba demands are two different things.
 
This is the reverse of Varane. We’re hopeful we can hold out for something close to £50m but it’ll end up being closer to £40m.
 
Borys said:
You think we've not done it by now? I'd bet we have offered him an extension a year ago already.

Offering a pay rise and meeting Pogba demands are two different things.
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That was before Varane though. Does he want to play with just Neymar at PSG with Mbappe moving away to RM?
 
Chairman Steve said:
This is the reverse of Varane. We’re hopeful we can hold out for something close to £50m but it’ll end up being closer to £40m.
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I don't think we will, Real needed the Varane money we don't need the Pogba money. The club clearly want to change this perception that we're mugs in the transfer market.

Pay up or feck off
 
Borys said:
It's difficult to do the math as we don't know really how much we can get for those 3. I'd say closer to 60-65m quid but it's just a guess, like yours.
Anyway, if the reports are true, we need to sell after Sancho and Varane transfers. So the small fishes will not cover for another big transfer, whether that is 50 or 90m quid it doesn't matter.
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60m quid for James, Lingard and Pogba? Wow. Okay, let’s go 60m then - who are we signing at 60m to replace those three that makes us more likely to win the league next year? That’s what it’s about. You don’t sign a 28 year old Varane to partner a 28 year old Maguire if you aren’t building a side to win now. There’s sod all point bringing in an 18 year old to replace Pogba who will peak when those two have retired. For the first time in 8 years I’m looking at a squad that’s one signing away from being genuine challengers - keeping Pogba makes that squad stronger - so let’s keep him a year and take the risk he doesn’t extend. It’s amusing this entire forum moans about how the glazers don’t care about winning - top 4 is all that matters - yet they’re delighted to sell a player who is undoubtedly a difference maker despite what his critics say just to bring in some money and stop us losing a player on a free. Real ambition would be to say feck it - keep that 40m (or the 30m you’ve valued him at) and go all in on winning the league.

Anyway - it looks like PSG are about to bid - he’s refused a contract and wants to move as a priority to PSG.

 
It blows my mind that some Utd fans would actually countenance him staying next season. He’s out of contract in a year and his agent is Mino Raiola….it’s already a complete circus, never mind letting him get close to negotiating a free transfer. He walked out on us before and he will do it again. It’s madness to even consider this.

Sell him. Sell him immediately.
 
Mickeza said:
60m quid for James, Lingard and Pogba? Wow. Okay, let’s go 60m then - who are we signing at 60m to replace those three that makes us more likely to win the league next year? That’s what it’s about. You don’t sign a 28 year old Varane to partner a 28 year old Maguire if you aren’t building a side to win now. There’s sod all point bringing in an 18 year old to replace Pogba who will peak when those two have retired. For the first time in 8 years I’m looking at a squad that’s one signing away from being genuine challengers - keeping Pogba makes that squad stronger - so let’s keep him a year and take the risk he doesn’t extend. It’s amusing this entire forum moans about how the glazers don’t care about winning - top 4 is all that matters - yet they’re delighted to sell a player who is undoubtedly a difference maker despite what his critics say just to bring in some money and stop us losing a player on a free. Real ambition would be to say feck it - keep that 40m (or the 30m you’ve valued him at) and go all in on winning the league.

Anyway - it looks like PSG are about to bid - he’s refused a contract and wants to move as a priority to PSG.

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Your gonna laugh, but Declan Rice . At least in the near future.
 
Mickeza said:
60m quid for James, Lingard and Pogba? Wow. Okay, let’s go 60m then - who are we signing at 60m to replace those three that makes us more likely to win the league next year? That’s what it’s about. You don’t sign a 28 year old Varane to partner a 28 year old Maguire if you aren’t building a side to win now. There’s sod all point bringing in an 18 year old to replace Pogba who will peak when those two have retired. For the first time in 8 years I’m looking at a squad that’s one signing away from being genuine challengers - keeping Pogba makes that squad stronger - so let’s keep him a year and take the risk he doesn’t extend. It’s amusing this entire forum moans about how the glazers don’t care about winning - top 4 is all that matters - yet they’re delighted to sell a player who is undoubtedly a difference maker despite what his critics say just to bring in some money and stop us losing a player on a free. Real ambition would be to say feck it - keep that 40m (or the 30m you’ve valued him at) and go all in on winning the league.

Anyway - it looks like PSG are about to bid - he’s refused a contract and wants to move as a priority to PSG.

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If he moves tp PSG in his prime it says a lot about him as a competitor.

I'll miss him, I love watching him play when he's 'on', but I'll do cartwheels down the street if we get 50-60mln for him.
 
Sell him and good riddance to his agent.
The man himself will be missed though.

Clearly he isn't of the right character to be playing for us, he doesn't like the fights in football games, and his mind isn't with us any more.. This will only end in one way with him leaving
 
LonelyFire said:
It blows my mind that some Utd fans would actually countenance him staying next season. He’s out of contract in a year and his agent is Mino Raiola….it’s already a complete circus, never mind letting him get close to negotiating a free transfer. He walked out on us before and he will do it again. It’s madness to even consider this.

Sell him. Sell him immediately.
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I don't get it either. For some fans it's probably some form of Stockholm Syndrome.
 
Pogba on form is an absolute joy to behold, and a massive plus to any side in the world.

But so much about him just screams PSG. Maybe it's the best move for all involved.
 
Mickeza said:
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Well this is 100% the opposite of what the gaffer has said he wants from his players. He only wants players with heart, not mercenaries.

If Pogba spends his prime years toiling away in France in a one-race league, with CL as the only motivation, then I'm just going to be dissappointed in his priorities.
 
LonelyFire said:
It blows my mind that some Utd fans would actually countenance him staying next season. He’s out of contract in a year and his agent is Mino Raiola….it’s already a complete circus, never mind letting him get close to negotiating a free transfer. He walked out on us before and he will do it again. It’s madness to even consider this.

Sell him. Sell him immediately.
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It blows my mind people don’t prioritize winning over avoiding an imaginary circus in their mind created by the press about someone who is not a problem in the locker room.
 
I thought we offered him 350k a week which he turned down? How much more does he want?
 
All the reports are coming from canelreporter, they are the same ones that said Pogba was joining PSG for 45m 2 weeks ago, they tweet several times a day with something about Pogba. I'd not take it seriously just yet.
 
League Une is perfect for him. He gets to play against two parked buses every week and look world class, then massively dissappint in the 2-3 important CL games where he faces a well oiled pressing machine.

If he thinks he deserves more than what he was offered based on his hit and miss performances, good riddance :mad:
 
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