Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

NotoriousISSY said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting Pogba and Messi are comparable on delivery, but both clubs are desperate for them simply because they bring an audience who would move quite fluidly to another club if they were to transfer.

Sancho probably can be a commercially big hit, but he's still someway off Pogba in having that kind of audience. Definitely has the potential to be a proper household name though, no doubts.

On a personal note and how I see football, I'd rather we cut ties and that level of drama disappeared. But from a business perspective I can completely see why United will fight to keep him, even at a higher fixed cost than before. Also add in the Adidas factor and it keeps your highest yielding sponsor happy.
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Yes, I agree commercially he is very big to us, he is a big asset for Addidas too.

If we look at it in football terms, he is a fantastic player but no one really knows what position we want him in which has cost us balance in the team over the years, one season we are building around Pogba and the next making signing that play in his role.. Can you blame Ole and the club though? As a manager you need to know which players you can trust. Ole began by trusting Pogba and then he was injured and his agent saying its done for Pogba which makes it hard for Ole to build for the future.
 
Juanuzayne said:
Who do you suggest we sign instead? Who do you think could come in, replace him, make our midfield better and turn us into contenders? Or are you suggesting relying on McFred to win titles?
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A midfielder who balances out the team creatively and defensively.

Too many of you want to act like Pogba is some kind of holy grail which Manchester United will fall apart without.
Funny enough, you keep referencing McFred as if Pogba displaced either of them last season.
Nevermind Ole shoehorned him at LM because there's nowhere else we can trust him.

He can be sold. He's not irreplaceable. In fact, based on last season, he's not even that important to the club anymore.
 
MattofManchester said:
Nevermind Ole shoehorned him at LM because there's nowhere else we can trust him.

He can be sold. He's not irreplaceable. In fact, based on last season, he's not even that important to the club anymore.
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Yet Ole played him in the middle 26 times last season.

Every player is replaceable.
 
The sooner he leaves the happier I'll be. Five seasons on and we still have the same debates about him. We survived Ronaldo and RVN leaving, Pogba even will be an afterthought the day he leaves this club.

Amazing ability but not worth the hassle or wages IMO.
 
We cant let him go for free but he's holding all the aces in my opinion. We'll end up selling him for £15mil in January at the rate and before he goes hes due £250k per week and can do nothing to earn it. Thats another |£6m + we'll spend. Just get him out now - no point in keeping unhappy players - I'm sure a part ex would be the best bet here. Varane for Pogba - has this not been suggested for fecks sake, it works for all parties doesnt it??
 
We can only sell him now if we bring in a replacement that’s ready to go.

Varane and Sancho additions to our current squad are enough to challenge, so an option is to keep him and go all out for trophies this season and accept losing him on a free, ideally we would sell him and buy a ready made replacement now but I don’t see that happening
 
laughtersassassin said:


Always been a top proffesional by all reports that don't stem from Jose.
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I am not really surprised about this, what his agent says is completely different to how Paul actually is.

Lets not forget that Paul is actually mates with some of the players like Lingard, Rashford etc.. so he isn't going to be a bad influence.
 
Hope we get this dons asap, so we can replace him sharpish.
I will miss watching him play.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
Majority fans don't question his professionalism anyway so this is just an old news about Pogba.
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Are you not reading this forum much? I have to constantly remind people there aren't any instances outside of Mourinho where Pogba has been designated as a diva, unprofessional, social media-chasing bellend by any of the people he works with.
 
Sayros said:
Are you not reading this forum much? I have to constantly remind people there aren't any instances outside of Mourinho where Pogba has been designated as a diva, unprofessional, social media-chasing bellend.
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Quote me 5 at least then.
 
I expect Pogba to be sold on the second day after we get Varane. It's likely to be the end of transfer window for us (in terms of first XI players). I think we need a CM badly, but not sure we're getting one, as I think Pogba funds are invested into Varane transfer.
 
I love Paul Pogba, nothing against the guy and I think that in the right system he is one hell of a player. But The fact is that in 59 pages of this thread and countless others people still have no idea about where should he play. He just doesn't fit. He didn't fit with Mourinho and he does not fit with Ole either. He was tried in about 4 different positions with different players each season and something just doesn't click for him here. How can some folks keep making the argument that he is irreplaceable is beyond me. The guy played around 60% of our games last season and most of them were from LW. I would love it if we somehow managed to fit him in and still have a balanced team but I just don't see it. 5 years since he signed for us and it's the same argument since day one.
 
Pogba is a box to box or the most advanced midfielder. In box to box we have Pogba, Fred, VdB, and Mctominay . In the advanced midfield or no.10 position we have Bruno and Pogba. So if Pogba leaves we should be looking to get a no 10 or advanced midfielder to give competition to Bruno because he would be the only one left that can play that role in the team. VdB was meant to be that player too but he looks better as a box to box in our system to me. Meaning we are still kind of fecked if Pogba is sold and Bruno gets injured imo. None of our remaining midfielders in VdB or Fred or Mctominay can provide that bite in attack that they do.

If Pogba leaves his replacement should be someone that can play in Bruno's position. Aouar Sabitzer are some names that can play there and are available for cheap. We would still need a DM since Matic is the only one we have.



VdB(Fred) Bruno(Sabitzer)
DM​
 
I think by the end of the transfer window, it will be us who will be pushing pogba out of the door while he might be angling to stay.

No club will pay in excess of 350k in wages (bar PSG) and he'll frankly have nowhere to go
 
romufc said:
I am not really surprised about this, what his agent says is completely different to how Paul actually is.

Lets not forget that Paul is actually mates with some of the players like Lingard, Rashford etc.. so he isn't going to be a bad influence.
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Not only that but, also an influence on the academy players and Amad has spoken about how Pogba has helped him along since he has come over.

I get the other side is that because he apparently doesn't put a muzzle on his agent or his brothers, that makes him out to be this virus of a human and a stain on the club but, to me the proof is in the pudding of the teammates and coaches of the type of person / player he is, not what some newspaper rag or pundit just looking to make a story.
 
zenith said:
I think by the end of the transfer window, it will be us who will be pushing pogba out of the door while he might be angling to stay.

No club will pay in excess of 350k in wages (bar PSG) and he'll frankly have nowhere to go
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We're already at this stage. Champions League final against Bayern, would you start him in midfield? Not a chance. Rashford, Bruno, Sancho behind a striker and then get midfield balance behind them.
 
Not sure if we have right structure at club (John&Fletcher) making calls or we are just exploiting the Covid/ Players contract situation at other clubs but I have a good vibe that we are finally going in right direction.

We are not afraid to lose Pogba and linked with good players like Goretzka / Saul / Neves / Carmavinga (these players not only good but attainable too, atleast one of them)

It appears like we have a proper backup plans like tracking Konde / Romero in the backend in case Varane deal fails so we have learned from our mistakes

We are after right targets like Varane (just 1 year left) / Saul (likes to leave)where the opposite Club are not in strong seat at negotiation table.

In the backend we are also working on block bluster targets like Haaland by trying to offload inconsistent players like Martial in swap deals.

Finally good times around ?
 
Getting him out the door would solve so many issues with the squad balance. No more playing Rashford out of position to accomodate this show pony or play 1 vs 3 in midfield because he either doesn't bother tracking back or else commits some dumb foul to concede penalties in tight games. Selling him for anything considerable would be as good as getting Sancho or Varane.
 
bosnian_red said:
We're already at this stage. Champions League final against Bayern, would you start him in midfield? Not a chance. Rashford, Bruno, Sancho behind a striker and then get midfield balance behind them.
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I would start him in 75% of the games through a season. (15-20% rested and the remaining to be brought on as a sub.)

In a one-off match, a final, it would depend on the form of others at the time. But likely start with a more defensive minded lineup, so Paul oj the bench, with thoughts to bring him on in the 2nd half when we need someone that can create some moments of magic.

We need great players that can play in games that are not finals.
 
bosnian_red said:
We're already at this stage. Champions League final against Bayern, would you start him in midfield? Not a chance. Rashford, Bruno, Sancho behind a striker and then get midfield balance behind them.
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What about Saul(45)and Neves(35), Not too expensive as we can use 45M from Pogba sale to buy Saul and then just 35M to get neves.

---------Rashford ------------Cavani --------------Sancho

-----------------------------Bruno--------------------------------------

--------------Saul -------------------------Neves--------------------

--Shaw---------Maguire-------Varane--------------AWB-----------
 
sp_107 said:
What about Saul(45)and Neves(35), Not too expensive as we can use 45M from Pogba sale to buy Saul and then just 35M to get neves.

---------Rashford ------------Cavani --------------Sancho

-----------------------------Bruno--------------------------------------

--------------Saul -------------------------Neves--------------------

--Shaw---------Maguire-------Varane--------------AWB-----------
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Tbh both of them are very average and I don't think either are upgrades on Fred. Neves at least has a good passing range on him and maybe it's the team holding him back from making a step up, but I'm not too big on Saul. He doesn't do much passing and while he does get stuck in, isn't a holding midfielder who can keep things organized.
 
Matriac said:
I would start him in 75% of the games through a season. (15-20% rested and the remaining to be brought on as a sub.)

In a one-off match, a final, it would depend on the form of others at the time. But likely start with a more defensive minded lineup, so Paul oj the bench, with thoughts to bring him on in the 2nd half when we need someone that can create some moments of magic.

We need great players that can play in games that are not finals.
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For sure, but all things considered if you have a world class player with his wage and reputation, you want him to actually fit into your best 11 with the others, not leaving you exposed if you use them. For me, signing Bruno and Sancho essentially made Pogba not very relevant from a clear starting 11 spot perspective.
 
bosnian_red said:
Tbh both of them are very average and I don't think either are upgrades on Fred. Neves at least has a good passing range on him and maybe it's the team holding him back from making a step up, but I'm not too big on Saul. He doesn't do much passing and while he does get stuck in, isn't a holding midfielder who can keep things organized.
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I think we will go for Neves the moment we get a result on Camavinga and I think he'd solve some of our issues to do with creativity from deep and be more helpful off the ball.

On Pogba, I still think he will stay this summer and sign a new deal during the season especially if the team improves and is in the mix for the title. I just don't see many clubs around that want him enough to pay what we are offering and then pay Mino his cut too.
 
Would anyone agree to take Herrera back? Was always solid for us, use as a swap + money for Pogba?
 
So daft to want to leave when it's clear we are in the best position in years to push on and signing his international teammate. Can't he see that? Surely he could sign a new deal with a decent buyout incase he still wants to leave in a year or two? Just seems horrible timing on his part really.
 
I mean if a squad like ours (with the additions of Sancho and highly likely Varane) can't motivate him to stay he can fecking do one.
 
BluesJr said:
So daft to want to leave when it's clear we are in the best position in years to push on and signing his international teammate. Can't he see that? Surely he could sign a new deal with a decent buyout incase he still wants to leave in a year or two? Just seems horrible timing on his part really.
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This very much!
 
Godfather said:
I mean if a squad like ours (with the additions of Sancho and highly likely Varane) can't motivate him to stay he can fecking do one.
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In the interest of objectivity maybe like Varane he just genuinely wants a change
 
BluesJr said:
So daft to want to leave when it's clear we are in the best position in years to push on and signing his international teammate. Can't he see that? Surely he could sign a new deal with a decent buyout incase he still wants to leave in a year or two? Just seems horrible timing on his part really.
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It’s that snake of an agent pulling the strings and twisting his arm for another fat pay cheque, simple as that
 
charlenefan said:
In the interest of objectivity maybe like Varane he just genuinely wants a change
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In the French league? If he sits out his contract to join Real fair enough. If he ends up at PSG though I can't accept this reason. Huge fan of his but this squad looks so exciting right now and ready to challenge for titles. Worst timing to leave us imo.
 
Godfather said:
In the French league? If he sits out his contract to join Real fair enough. If he ends up at PSG though I can't accept this reason. Huge fan of his but this squad looks so exciting right now and ready to challenge for titles. Worst timing to leave us imo.
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Well he is French, despite the quality (or lack there of) of the league PSG do have a tasty looking side themselves. 3 or 4 years back in France than maybe end his career in the states to further his 'brand'?
 
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