Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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I hate to be THAT guy, but Bruno has been largely irrelevant for us for a period of time now. Masked by a penalty here and there.
Is that all it would take for you lot to say Pogba has been great? A penalty here and there?
What Ole said is the universal truth. He's just very good at paraphrasing it. There is always a drama surrounding Pogba.
its a complete non-answer
probably means there is at least something in these rumours
Hard to argue against those numbers.
Well, only if did was scoring penalty here and there.
But, what about assists, work rate, tackling, key passes, chance creating, etc you know to consider someone's impact.
I mean Pogba was not exactly even a good penalty taker for us...
Part of me would be relieved to see him go. He's a constant distraction with his contract negotiations and now that we have Bruno, I dont think he's worth it.
As i said earlier in this thread
He ended up being deployed on the left in the last part of the season, and he didnt set the world on fire from there
He isnt indispensable on the center of the field, and he isnt indespensable on the left. So yeah, goodbye
He ended up being deployed on the left in the last part of the season, and he didnt set the world on fire from there
He isnt indispensable on the center of the field, and he isnt indespensable on the left. So yeah, goodbye
Look, there are legitimate criticisms of Pogba and being happy to see the back of him isn't an unreasonable opinion at this stage, but to suggest he's only had a handful of good games for us is ridiculous. He's had more good games than bad games here, and whether you think that's good enough or not, its not a reason to rewrite the narrative completely.
No need to debate, when people hate him, they hate him.
Just wait and see if he leave or not. If he signed a new contract, let's back him up.
You hang out with him off the pitch do you?
It's tiring reading the tripe on hear from you lot
He will feign injury, he will down tools, he should tell his agent to shut up blah blah blah.
How many of you here will go to the companies you work for and negotiate a lower salary however good or bad people think you are.
And to be honest it's not like if Pogba doesn't get the money it goes the club to do something else, the glazers line their pocket with it.
Worry about the like of Phil Jones taken money for nothing.
The guy came out last season and said he'd rather keep quiet and just play football and does what he did.
If you don't like him as a player fine but just stop with the BS making up nonsense to make yourselves feel better
I went to their reddit few weeks ago and all of the comments were positive wanting him to join PSG.
He's caught in possession, resulting in giving ball away, far too often. For United at least. Maybe that changes if we improve the team, and certainly he plays more against the better teams.
You forgot the Madrid fans and:
I have a mate who is a Juve fan and he said yeah we'd want him back but we don't have the money, maybe on a free again. Feck him.
Did you watch France v Switzerland in the Euros? It's impossible to improve France talent-wise, yet he still got caught in possession as much as he does here.
Yeap... and had a quiet, professional agent.
I always thought it was a mistake by Fergie in letting him go. He offered us a different approach to playing.
I always thought Veron type of player was a few season too early for United. He'd be a monster of a player in this current United squad.
Everyone here would be fired from their jobs if they performed as Pogba has earning what he already earns. Not forgetting the fact that they are letting the whole world know that they are looking for a different employer through their spokesperson.
The Glazers have spent the money, blame it on Woody for not signing the right players or extending contracts of players he should have let go a long time back. As for them pocketing the money, they own it and no matter if we like it or not, they do have the right to take money out of their business like all business people do.
I think if we were to move to a genuine 4-3-3 (with a DM) then we’d see the best out of Pogba and could start controlling games against the bigger teams.
However, that would involve dropping Bruno and thus I can’t see where Pogba fits with us going forwards? When we bought him, we should have built a team around him rather than trying to get him to adapt his game to suit our system as sadly he doesn’t have the skill set to do that
However, that would involve dropping Bruno and thus I can’t see where Pogba fits with us going forwards? When we bought him, we should have built a team around him rather than trying to get him to adapt his game to suit our system as sadly he doesn’t have the skill set to do that
While I do think it's best for everyone if he moves on, I think it's only fair to recognise that at the beginning of the season he was still recovering from Covid and really shouldn't have been playing. That was a bad mistake by Ole, the medical staff and yes him as well. He may have felt ok on the training ground but it was very obvious he wasn't right out there.
I do agree with your last two lines though.
I'd say we need 1 CB and 1 MF no matter whether he stays or goes. It's just that the type of midfielder we get should change, depending on whether they will be playing next to Pogba or if it'll be next to Fred or McTominay.
The RB and second MF would be nice to get but I wouldn't class it as a 'need'.
It's not just a gap between the individual quality of Greenwood and Sancho. We've been absolutely crying out for a creative winger, one that will help more in the build-up and look to assist, rather than our current options who are all mostly focused on just scoring goals.
Meanwhile Pogba is difficult to even fit into our team. We really should be looking to get another midfielder no matter whether he stays or goes, and even thought that midfielder will almost certainly be less talented than Pogba they should be a better fit into how we want to play. That midfielder + Sancho should have us looking a far more solid and balanced team.
He's gone for sure. One of those comments where it doesn't really matter what Ole said, but what he didn't say. There is no mention about him staying.
He's not in the details of how much we're getting for Pogba.
Any follow his mate who used to post stuff on twatter about him? Was king Jono or something like that, a poker player who was mates with quiet a few of the youth team. He called Pogba joining from Juve well before anyone. Massive tool, but certainly in the know.
I love Pogba but these rumours have consisted for too long. He has to go now.
I don't see us controlling the midfield area under the current setup with Pogba or without him. We simply have way too many players who aren't interested to do much there. There's no midfielder in the market who is gonna give us the change you desire. I very much expect us to start with McTominay and Fred again.
I agree that Sancho might help but there's also a chance he would find himself overwhelmed on a side where he would need support from players like AWB and McTominay who are lacking in technical ability.
WTF are you on about? Go to bed you're talking shit
I just hope we can get money for him and he doesn’t walk on a free again.
Imagine if we let him go on a free again
We won't control the midfield in the way teams who are set up to focus on doing that will, but that doesn't mean we can't improve significantly. That should be our goal. A midfield that is just as solid defensively as what McFred is but with superior control and ability when we have the ball. It really shouldn't be that hard to get that.
I know its only a section of fans....but that PSG banner says a lot to me. He has had it throughout his career too. A fair section of Juventus fans werent worried about him going and were very happy with the fee, a large section of our fans are not convinced by him and now a section of PSG fans.....fans from his own country where he is supposedly a god for his country dont want him to move there.
It ISNT just fans beign fickle here. For all of his obvious abilities and qualities and moments of magic and some excellent performances.....he has always been a devisive player for the opinions of fans and pundits.
Five years here and we are still talking about how to fit him in the side, how to build the side around him, his best position, not having the right players around him.....this isnt even adding the off pitch circus that surrounds him......yet some still think he is the best midfielder in the world and we should be paying him wages of £80-100m in wages to stay here for the next 4/5 years at which point his value will be far less than it is now....for me its an absolute no brainer to sell him and look at one or two replacements for a better balanced midfield
It ISNT just fans beign fickle here. For all of his obvious abilities and qualities and moments of magic and some excellent performances.....he has always been a devisive player for the opinions of fans and pundits.
Five years here and we are still talking about how to fit him in the side, how to build the side around him, his best position, not having the right players around him.....this isnt even adding the off pitch circus that surrounds him......yet some still think he is the best midfielder in the world and we should be paying him wages of £80-100m in wages to stay here for the next 4/5 years at which point his value will be far less than it is now....for me its an absolute no brainer to sell him and look at one or two replacements for a better balanced midfield
A lot of people on here say "I love him but... *insert reasons why he should be sold* "
I absolutely don't love him. Wanted him to feck off to whoever would take him when he made those comments in Japan during the 2019 transfer window. Yes he's got great footballing ability but his time hasn't worked out for either party and it needs to come to an end now.
Bin him off to PSG for whatever they'll give us for him and move on.
Sign a decent CDM, and a good CM and we will be a much better team for it. Functionality over raw ability every day of the week for me.
I absolutely don't love him. Wanted him to feck off to whoever would take him when he made those comments in Japan during the 2019 transfer window. Yes he's got great footballing ability but his time hasn't worked out for either party and it needs to come to an end now.
Bin him off to PSG for whatever they'll give us for him and move on.
Sign a decent CDM, and a good CM and we will be a much better team for it. Functionality over raw ability every day of the week for me.
He's not indispensable or irreplaceable however the standard of technical ability we have in midfield is extremely low, and hence, we'd be absolutely mental not to realise that he needs replacing. I have worries - us giving him a big fat contract but never getting the best out of him, and us selling him and continuing with the jolly trio of Fred, Mctominay and VDB. "lightning" up OT.
RB is definitely needed. AWB has no backup and last season every opposition team targeted his weakness. People will be amazed to see the transformation if we buy a proper attacking RB who is comfortable on the ball.
Just sold him already, I'm tired of the drama that surrounds him. Overrated player, never worked at United. He is a failure at United unfortunately. Years of excuses for him. Sell him and bye someone who can dictate the tempo of the game.
I agree. But does Pogba have any desire to be at United?
Yes we do think differently if you think we in any way compare to the top teams in the Prem in central midfield. Just looking at Chelsea alone. Who would you have..McTominay and Fred or Jorginho and Kante.
I know the answer that would be echoed far and wide.
If he's going let's get this done and use whatever we make from it to bring in someone who fits the way we intend to play.
Hugely talented player but never quite lived up to the hype around him. He was supposed to be the chosen one but he came into a turbulent United and he too much of a square peg in a round hole.
I've described the fans relationship with him on here as a toxic relationship. Everything Pogba does brings out rage from some posters.
I don't want to say Pogba is blameless here but circumstances haven't helped.
If this does happen the best thing will be getting rid of the cancer that is Raiola. Never again do I want to see him represent a United player and that includes Haaland
Hugely talented player but never quite lived up to the hype around him. He was supposed to be the chosen one but he came into a turbulent United and he too much of a square peg in a round hole.
I've described the fans relationship with him on here as a toxic relationship. Everything Pogba does brings out rage from some posters.
I don't want to say Pogba is blameless here but circumstances haven't helped.
If this does happen the best thing will be getting rid of the cancer that is Raiola. Never again do I want to see him represent a United player and that includes Haaland
An answer that ignores my point entirely. Bravo.