Ole never really shows his cards
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Ole never really shows his cards
Unfortunately this happens time to time. Has happened to us, has happened to others and will continue to happen.
Let's just hope it's settled one way or the other this summer.
Tbf to Pogba although I don't think he's ever really looked committed to us, he's never really had much to get excited about here, but we could look very different this time next year to him, so I'd keep him and risk losing him for free, we aren't getting anyone better.
I just don't get this take, and it's quite popular. I'm fine with him wanting the club to be a lot more ambitious and competitive, I'd respect him for saying so publicly to exert pressure on the board, but he's hardly done the business. Look at Bruno, fiercely competitive, and has singlehandedly won us loads of games in a very short amount of time. He's allegedly being paid a third of what Pogba is earning.
He needs to back up his ambition with top level performances.
Spacegoat coast to coast.
Why are people getting worked up about stories of him going to PSG? It's standard negotiating tactics from Raiola. Pogba has said in the past that he wouldn't play for PSG which is why some PSG fans are against him. There was no other club that Raiola could link him to. We all know that Perez doesn't want Pogba and Barca are totally skint. It's literally Raiola's only card here.
Ole is always positive about players who are still employed by the club, he lied about Smalling, Lukaku etc. It‘s all smoke and mirrors.
We might finally be going into season with a starting 11 that has no real holes in it, to now lose Pogba would just feel like a potential missed opportunity, he can maybe only be a consistant top player when he is surrounded by other top players, and when there something to really play for, I don't know if that is true, I just want to see it given a chance.
All I know for sure is that he is an extremelly talented midfielder, which we find very difficult for us to get hold of, so I'd keep him for a season where our squad looks as good as it has since Fergie left, also as our links to replacements seem far fetched, and the fee we might get for him pretty limited.
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This is what I have issues with. Players that do this, like Martial and likely Pogba will end up overpaid with high contracts - whereas the ones that stay committed and quietly do their job don’t. We lost Herrera due to this and I hope we don’t make the same mistake reward Bruno with a contract he deserves
Yep and add Sanchez to the list too "he will come back here and prove the doubters wrong" whilst on loan at Inter.
In many ways I'd rather he handles contract situations this way. Keep it all behind closed doors, and I hope they work out the best solution for all parties.
It is a popular take.
The vibe at the club has been a bit unstable. There was a glut of supposed talent coming in under Mou but it was a house of cards and all turned to crap really.
If Pogba was just coming to the club now, imagining that Varane ends up here as well, he might feel more positive and we might see more of his quality. As it is, half his career has passed while the club slowly transitions back to what it was in SAF days. It’s coming, but his experience here must make him doubt whether it’s worth waiting. He doesn’t have the personality to positively influence and hasten the development of the club, the squad, the team. He’s supremely talented but he lacks Bruno’s drive; he lacks the qualities that we have needed so much these last few years; he is not a “United” player in my mind.
He would have done much better at a team already established at the top. He’s good enough to get into the top teams but not good enough to turn a “nearly” team into winners.
Ole would be a very good politician. The art of saying a lot of things (which all sound positive) without actually said anything.
I see some posters mention Pogba ++ in midfield. I am not sure what they see in his production level to offer him that status. We need midfielders with consistent production levels who can help the team, not live in hope that our so-called superstar will turn up.
whats the reason behind this idea that Pogba doesn’t like PSG and their fans don’t like him? Guess I must have missed something 
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.the club is bigger than any player and manager. He should feck off now before the transfer window closes if he does not renew his contract now.
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He said he'd never play for PSG because his parents are Marseille fans.whats the reason behind this idea that Pogba doesn’t like PSG and their fans don’t like him? Guess I must have missed something
I really don’t understand when you say he’s one of our better players.
Let’s put things into context here.
Firstly he can only be better than others when he’s on the pitch which we all know is usually half a season or so on average. And while he is on the pitch he hasn’t always been one of our better players either. So we’d now have to offer him a massive new contract for a part time return? Some of us don’t agree with wanting to afford such a luxury. We’d rather reinvest these funds into the team.
Furthermore, It’s only last season when he wasn’t given too many responsibilities of the midfield and played in advanced positions that he was able to give more input but that’s also because we were short of options and Rashford was injured or not up to par. Going forward he will not be playing LW as often as he did last season and probably very rarely.
Let’s also not forget the penalties he conceded.
The reason many of us are back to scapegoating him is because stints of good performances don’t warrant fulfilling his demands. Of course we also remember how he came clutch for us last season but there’s a lot more to it than just his good moments. He’ll most likely miss a few games again due to injury if not a half season again. And the likelihood of his injuries will only continue to increase with age.
Even if injuries may not be a concern, where would you want to play him? Definitely can’t trust him in a midfield 2.
If the rumours are to be believed and we’re switching to a midfield 3, we still can’t risk playing him there either if Bruno is in the mix too, no matter who the DM may be.
The PL is way too fast paced and teams will continue to target him and we’ll never learn from our mistakes. He will continue to get found out and watching him lose possession and then him tracking back, is just dreadful for my eyes. There have been moments that I’ll never forget where the teams running back and this man is just jogging back leaving the entire midfield open.
I’m certainly not down to give him a bumper new contract just to have him as a luxury and be one of our ‘better players’ like you say. When players are paid what he may be paid, they are supposed to be one of our top 3/5 players and right now he’s not in my top 5 most important players in our starting 11. Letting him go is not the end of the world and some of us need to understand that.
I said I never feck my brothers wife either.
Ryan, is that you?
Now we are accusing him of faking injury? Some of you are unbelievable.
Check his injury records especially every tournament year.
I was amazed he played as much for us this season TBH.
Even a bad haircut would probably mean six weeks out if it's his final season
Couldn't car less. I can count on probably one hand the amount of good games he's had for us. He always seemed to be injured when the big games came around.
Or giving penalties away
For me he's been one of the most disappointing signings ever. It's turned out a bit like the Veron transfer.
Well the options aren't great. Reward him for very inconsistent performances with a mega deal he won't dream of getting elsewhere (north of the supposed 290k a week we're already paying him) and hope we can make it work tactically, use him for the season for the price of 14m in wages and miss out on potential 50m sale and see him leave on a free for the 2nd time, or sell him now and save that 14m and make another 50m going straight back into building a coherent team. The last option seems to me to be by far the most sensible one.
I also wouldn't describe the team as a finally worthy 11. I think our midfield is a major issue, AWB is still getting up to speed, we have GK issues, but up front, on paper, we look very good. The consistent performers are a mix of Bruno, Shaw, Maguire, Greenwood and Cavani.
I had the same blinkers on as Jose did. I really thought Pogba would evolve into a box to box dominator, akin to Toure. Jose defended him to the hilt for the first 18 months and persisted with making it work in a double pivot when it really wasn't coming off. That goal he set up for Lingard against Arsenal was Yaya-esque. Remember Jose saying after the match no other player in the league can do that. And I agree. But the mentality is so far from his ability that he's a tactical conundrum.
I agree that he works really well in a team where he is not required to fight for the team consistently, isn't relied upon as a leader and just allowed to do his thing. The most talented player we've had since Cristiano, but nowhere near the same application.
It was always going to end badly with the way he left, the crazy transfer fee.
He did okay at Juventus surrounded by great players and he was able to make 2 or 3 good to key passes a game.
BUt in the Premiership he does that 5 games a season only and even then not always key to us winning.
Bruno's impact is what Pogba's should have been.
I really wish we would just sell him, an I'm a Pogba fan on the whole. He hasn't ever really done it for us on a regular basis, his agent is a scumbag and it's so unbecoming for us to be trying to cling on to a player who has so often shown disloyalty through his agent. I know many try and separate Mino and Paul, but for me Mino is just an employee of Paul. Anything he says that Paul doesn't come out and correct Mays we'll come from the horse's mouth.
I will be delighted if we manage to sell him this summer and re-invest the money in a proper defensive minded player.
I'm a Pogba fan but the baggage that comes with him is just not worth it anymore.
Watch him tear up the Ligue 1 and redcafe lose its shit everytime he does skills in a PsG shirt against bang average teams.
I'm a Pogba fan but the baggage that comes with him is just not worth it anymore.
Watch him tear up the Ligue 1 and redcafe lose its shit everytime he does skills in a PsG shirt against bang average teams.
Agreed. He's not going to give much away. Fully expect Pogba to leave this summer now.
Not wanted by Utd fans and not wanted by PSG fans. Pogba has surely done himself proud here.
Absolutely crazy to think this guy was supposed to be the second coming of Christ when he came back. How wrong we were.
Absolutely crazy to think this guy was supposed to be the second coming of Christ when he came back. How wrong we were.
Turns out if you have a foot out the door wherever you are, you belong to nowhere. He had a chance to be beloved here, if only he did not act a twat and put together at least one consistent season. However, with Pogba, everything else comes before performances.
he's gone
I’d love to keep him. Had a blinder of a tournament
Seems more like he doesn't know.
Smacks of Pogba running down his contract to join another club to be honest. Every time his contract ran out he would join Juventus.
What do you call an injury prone player who turns up to one game in 6 when he is fit? A total mediocrity. Bye Paul
He could join Man City at this point for all I care. Never seen so much fuss over such little and inconsistent value.
Veron was actually decent in his last season and helped us won the league. He's a better signing than Pogba