Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

Our best player according to some. No bids from anyone and even some of the fans of the club he’s linked to don’t want him. This really doesn’t surprise me, he flatters to deceive and is so good he needs everyone around him to be world class to perform. We were robbed!

This post is literally dripping drama. I’m exhausted just reading it.
 
Pogba is important to us. When he was out last season, we struggled as we were only relying on Bruno. He is a very important player for us.

However he also does not really fit into our 4-2-3-1 formation, and our squad. And his contract is running out and he is on very high wages.

Its best to sell now. 40-50M. Get whatever you can and sell him. But also know that when we sell him our midfield would look like this :

Midfield : Matic, McT, Fred
AM : Bruno, VdB

That's a painfully average midfield apart from Bruno. So we do need to buy.
 
Now a swap deal with Madrid for Varans sounds good. But do Madrid want him rather than money for Varane?
 
Really unfortunate news. I just hope we replace him with the right quality. Letting Pogba leave and not signing a replacement midfielder will be insanely naive.
We did the same with Lukaku.

That's the issue I have with Pogba leaving, we'd need to spend considerably more on a worthy replacement than we can get for him. It's true that he doesn't really fit, but without him, we lack quality and creativity in the middle.

Best case, although not very likely, would be keeping Pogba for the season and replacing him with free agent Goretzka next season.
 
It would leave us dangerously short of creativity from midfield, with no concrete rumours of any replacement.
He’s not really done much here and the fanfare around him suggests he’s some kind of superstar who’s performed week in week out a la Ronaldo when he left. Sell him, but only if we actually replace him with someone/people who work in our system.
 
Man Utd are heading towards another disaster transfer window. If Pogba leaves, we have nothing lined up to replace him. As much as the Jordan Sancho transfer to United catches the untrained eye, the fact is it is strengthening in an area where we are strong. Our weakest positions are in central midfield. With Pogba we are weak. Without him and with nothing lined up... we are toothless there. Another season of McTominay and Fred beckons. And while they have been good servants, if you compare them to Jorginho and Kante at Chelase...well the Stamford Bridge lads are a class apart.

Alll the excitement of the Sancho transfer was extracted as a result of how protracted it was. Like with Fernandes. Now the Verane deal is in trouble because Real want £50m and we will only pay £50m. The Trippier deal has gone quiet and interest in Eduardo Camavinga is stalling.

Right now we are nowhere near challenging for honours. Pogba's departure places us even further away.

We were strong at right wing despite having no right wingers?
 
What’s the history behind the banner? It’s clearly not for footballing reasons if they mention his mother.
 
Paul can produce some really magic moments, unfortunately they are few and far between. If he was more consistent in his performances he would be worth a better contract. At times he is all hype and no substance. I actually like Paul as a person, but the people he surrounds himself with I can do without.
 
What’s the history behind the banner? It’s clearly not for footballing reasons if they mention his mother.
What’s the history behind this then?

Paul Pogba in 2018:

“I’m sure that I wouldn’t play club football at the Parc des Princes.

“I’m not attracted to that because my father and mother were fans of Marseille so Paris doesn’t really fit into my plans.”
 
Pogba isn't important to our first team.

Minutes with and without him in the league last season:

MinutesGFGAminutes per GFminutes per GA
With Pogba1897352654.273
Without Pogba152338184084.6

McFred helps Shaw/AWB to push higher up the flanks, and give Bruno more freedom to get in and around the box.

Pogba gives you more individualistic gif-worthy moments. But Manchester United are a better team without him.

This shows we wont miss him too much on field, we will lose some commercial revenue though

If we replace one of McT/Fred with a quality player like Saul/Goretzka i think that will restore balance in the midfield and we might win more matches, I like Pogba but his leaving could help us
 
This shows we wont miss him too much on field, we will lose some commercial revenue though

If we replace one of McT/Fred with a quality player like Saul/Goretzka i think that will restore balance in the midfield and we might win more matches, I like Pogba but his leaving could help us
If we can replace him. That's the big issue right now. Our finances are not that great and we have already spent huge amount on Sancho. We would have some fixed amortization amount each season after player acquisition and sales and I hope we have enough for atleast the players we need.

Pogba leaving would mean we need 2 MF ,1 CB and 1 RB. Not sure if we will be able to pull it off
 
I think it's in the best interest of the club and player that he's sold tbh. Utd can build a cohesive team, instead of trying to shoehorn in a player who simply doesn't fit what they want to do, Pogba can get Raiola paid.
 
Hyperbole and you have no idea whether or not they've got someone lined up. Every day there's a new link to a CM or DM. There's still another month of window to go yet. Don't understand the need for drama when we're making good signings and have other big signings lined up.
The same convo happens every transfer window. Expectations raised, then nothing happens. Then someone says just wait till the transfer window ends...and nothing happens. If you have been following our efforts in transfer windows in the past you will see that we are following on a similar path. Including the bringing in of players to strengthen in non-priority areas. So far the same ole same ole. And our season starts in just three weeks time.
 
He doesn’t come across as the brightest in fairness.

He's a hard one to fathom isn't he, because all of his peers apparently love him and yet on (in terms of tactical awareness) and off the pitch he really does come across as a fecking idiot
 
What a poor take. United have lacked an RW since forever, it has been our most important position to find for years. We are clearly also looking for a CB.

We don’t need a DM (as much as I want one) because we don’t play in a setup that requires one as a stand alone.

The improvement in the right wing position is the gap between Greenwood and Sancho. That gap isn't massive... and it doesn't make us title contenders. Our weakest area of the pitch is central midfield and it looks like we are losing Pogba. We have known this. If and when he goes, and it is highly likely, we will be replacing downwards as it stands. And then we have McTominay and Fred. That is not a honours-challenging midfield. But we strengthen our forward line, which is where we are at our strongest. If that makes sense.. Then this £$£!"$!£"TWRWEFQWERQWEREWFD makes sense.
 
We don't know what goes on in the background. If he wants to leave, then it's obviously better to sell him for 40-50 million now rather than to have him play in 2nd gear for a year and then leave on a free.

He's not among our top 3 most important players. In fact, you could argue that he's not even top 5. His off-pitch antics where his agent and family talks shit has been annoying for a long time. He's 28 years old and ready for his final big contract. The team balance suffers when he plays. On top of this he's inconsistent and at times it genuinely looks like he doesn't care.

He's obviously a very good player but I'll be disappointed if the club desperately tries to keep him now. I can't find a single good argument for it. If he was our best or second best player and we clearly suffered when he wasn't in the starting XI then I'd get it, but this is not the case here.
 
PSG fans know exactly what they will be getting that's why. From the sublime to the ridiculous from game to game. No consistency from him.

Used to that with Neymar and Mbappe though aren't they :smirk:
 
Sell him and get a replacement. Unfortunately I don't trust the Glazers to reinvest and replace him.

Strange thing to say considering how noisy we have been in the market this year.

Sure some of it will need to come to fruition, but there’s a lot more positive noise coming out this year than previous
 
We did the same with Lukaku.

That's the issue I have with Pogba leaving, we'd need to spend considerably more on a worthy replacement than we can get for him. It's true that he doesn't really fit, but without him, we lack quality and creativity in the middle.

Best case, although not very likely, would be keeping Pogba for the season and replacing him with free agent Goretzka next season.
Yep — and I’d say our midfield without Pogba is weaker than our attack was without Lukaku. In other words, I trusted Martial/Rashford/Greenwood more than I trust McFred and beeky.
 
Strange thing to say considering how noisy we have been in the market this year.

Sure some of it will need to come to fruition, but there’s a lot more positive noise coming out this year than previous
Not a strange thing to say after over 15 years of Glazer ownership.

Noise happens every year, it is part of our social media strategy most likely.

If we get Varane and a DM and/or a replacement if Pogba leaves, then fair enough.
 
Donnarumma (Navas)
Marquinhos — Ramos — Kinpembe
Hakimi — Wijnaldum — Verratti — Pogba — Bernat
Neymar — Mbappe (Di Maria)​

That’s potentially the strongest PSG side in god knows how long. Neymar will finally get some of the supporting cast he deserves.
 
Agreed on most of what you said except the Pogba part.

Yeah he's talented but imo him leaving is in fact a bless in disguise for us.

First, we don't have that fat fecker and his circus around anymore. Pogba won't renew so having him around only make things worse for the dressing room. And it's not like he or the fat fecker or his circus don't have a big mouth anyway.

Second, if we manage to sell him we'd have more money for our transfer budget and considerably free up our wages bill.

Finally, he can't defend well enough to play as a midfielder, he's not effective as Bruno as an attacking midfielder, he's not fast enough to dislodge Rashford on the left.

His best place will be on the bench and some occasional minutes here and there, for all that money and noises. Plus Bruno and Sancho will need a lot of possession to be effective. You add Pogba to that and you'd have a huge balance issue if you'd try to play the three together. I don't mind him being here, we'll have more options and a good sub but it's just too expensive and troublesome.

I agree with you to a point. Pogba is a creator and draws defenders. He can be a match winner. I am on the fence. I can see that losing Pogba is not the end of the world. But it looks bad to lose your best players. The best teams don't lose their best players. I have been on hear berrating Pogba's lack of loyalty. I won't shed too many tears if he goes. But we HAVE to replace him. Because our midfield stinks to high heaven compared to your Chelseas, Citys and Liverpools as it stands, let alone when losing Pogba. You could, in theory, bring back Lingard, and if he is the player that played for West Ham, that might be good. But my theory there is that he was able to concentrate on his football in London because he away for the distractions he has further north. I would not put all my money on Lingard carrying on his West Ham form. But I would have him in my squad every day of the week. My concern is that resorting to Lingard is another last resort option that United since Sir Alex left have been very good at.
 
Donnarumma (Navas)
Marquinhos — Ramos — Kinpembe
Hakimi — Wijnaldum — Verratti — Pogba — Bernat
Neymar — Mbappe (Di Maria)​

That’s potentially the strongest PSG side in god knows how long. Neymar will finally get some of the supporting cast he deserves.

Yep incredibly strong looking team. Bet they still don't win the UCL though :lol:
 
Balance is important but so is quality. We are never going to win major honours with midfielders of the standard of Fred, Mctominay, VDB and Neves. If we're selling Pogba we really need to add someone properly gifted on the ball.

Also VDB is laughably bad and has to prove himself to be good enough for us let alone a qualiry player for us
Agree re: VdB, the notion he was suddenly ‘kick on’ because we’ll be forced to play him more is true RedCaf mental gymnastics.

He has been terrible but selling a better player will somehow ‘unlock him’.

Selling Pogba won’t bring balance, let’s see the state of the McFred threads when we’re drawing at Newcastle or West Ham without a Pogba to come on & change the game.

By all means sell him but we must replace him with quality.

Which United fans didn’t miss Butt? Great attitude and solid CM.

Ince was not missed however!
I’ve answered my point elsewhere but no slander was meant, let’s forget Ince.

Butt [once the class of ‘92 were established] was surrounded by Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham in midfield - with a solid defence & attack whilst most importantly having one of, if not the, best manager ever.

That isn’t to slander Butt, I’d take him over McFred, VdB in a minute but surely context matters.

He was a damn good midfielder.